GameRanger Shutting Down?

[Supernatural Pie]

Well, first I want to say that I know nothing about this, because I was not present at the time that anything took place.
What I have heard, however, is that Evill is considering shutting GameRanger down.

Some of the reasons that I've heard are that not enough people are buying Premium, and that Evill's tired of dealing with the "hassles" and "retards."

I'm sure most of you know more than me, so please, lets find out what's going on.

[Supernatural Pie]

It's also important to remember not to trust anything you hear until we get the chat log posted somewhere.

[Cow]

i dont see GR shutting down in the future he has built a Mac Gaming Empire and GR is built into almost every MAC multiplayer game now.  

[Brain]

 if he wants to, i bet he could talk apple into including GR with every new mac

[S.p.i.d.e.r.]

The problem is that Mac game porting houses abandoned him, if it goes, it goes, I just hope IRC doesn't become the next big thing for mac gaming.

[BTs_Ch A oS]

What is IRC, internet chat relay?  What is it and where is it?

             BTs_ST u RM

[Maniac]

Damnit he better not shut it down.

[|MP|Nomad]

What is IRC, internet chat relay?  What is it and where is it?

             BTs_ST u RM

I 2nd that

Also, Snipe where did you hear this?

[*DAMN Hazard]

I don't believe it, but whatever. Maybe this is a stunt to get more people to buy premium or maybe he's tired of us.

[killertoad]

If GameRanger does shut down someone willsee this as an oppertunity to pick up where he left off(hopefully) and if that doesnt happen then maybe Mauti can set something up for atleast Ghost Recon with servers, every other game seems to be screwed then

[Toxic::Joka]

if he wants to, i bet he could talk apple into including GR with every new mac

The world economy would collapse no one would get any job done at all  

Naah i would love to see this happen, more users more fun. And i bet it would be small penny for apple to uphold x amount of  server's that evill is paying for now...well not mb small pennys but little

[Jeb]

well there is mag...
Which if i'm not mistaken has autojoining sorta working in beta form. But last i heard, their main program briger left. Maybe he can be convinced to come back and i know Ace and I would be glad to help him with the programing.

I sorta got the feeling that evill was loosing interest a while ago when he would bitch to me in the command bunker about how he has wasted 5 years of his life on GR, and he hasn't gotten anything. I was also talking to him about a few ideas for coding a AA dedicated mac server submission box that would list dedicated AA servers for mac users(when the server was released on mac). His reaction was, do it yourself, and if you don't know bsd socket programing then it won't happen.

[Supernatural Pie]

Nomad, if you look on gameranger, there are a lot of people with things like "GR4Ever!!" on their names. It's not just a small rumor. It's something big, many people have heard about it, and it may or may not really happen.

[|MP|Buccaneer]

OK, I don't know how or where the rumor started, but I will fill you guys in on a good conversation I had with Evill last week.

He's been frustrated with the dumbass antics (my words, not his) of so many of the people on GR, and keeping it up and running is a full time job.  A full time job that he hasn't made shit doing.  He told me how much money he made from GR last year after paying for all it's expenses, and let me tell you, it wouldn't cover my bills for two months.  He did say that he's thought about just chucking the whole thing.

It's not like he doesn't have to work to update GR, it's not like he doesn't have to set it up for every game that comes out, and work with the game publishers so they interface correctly.  Add to that the bullshit he puts up with just listening to the dumbasses bitch all the time.  

So, here's what I have to say about it.  All those people bitching because there's an ad up there, fuck off.  Click on the damn ad for him just so they know it's getting looked at.

Anyone that's worried that GR may go away and hasn't paid for premium yet, go pay right now or shut it (aka put up or shut up).  Evill doesn't make shit off GR right now, and you are worried that it will be gone, but not willing to fork out $50 for it?  That's the price of most new games.  If you can spend the cash, or get the game as a gift, get one less game and pay for GR (tell mommy to buy it for your birthday if you have to).  

Face it, if you can afford a computer, and a decent internet connection, and the games, then you can afford to pay for GR Premium.  Even if you are a kid, just tell your parents to pay for that instead of one stinking game a year.  Now, there may be a small percentage of people out there, that can't afford it right now.  Between jobs, all money went to tuition.  Well, those are a very very few people.  $50 isn't really that much money when you break it down.  What do you spend $4 a month on that you can't cut back?  One less pack of cigs?  One or two less drinks at a bar?  Two less comic books? Half a movie ticket? In a month.  Shit, come mow my lawn, that's $20 for the 1.5 hours you'll spend doing it and you are almost half way there.  

If you are one of those people that just pirates everything because you think it's ok and doesn't hurt anybody, well, you shouldn't be bitching.  Evill has to eat too (and pay rent, car, all the other expenses of life).  

Oh, and be nicer to the guy.  Don't go bitching at him all the time.  He's given you something that you obviously value, don't be an ingrate.  

[Supernatural Pie]

Well said. It cannot be put any more clearly than that.

I just have one thing to add about the banners that people bitch about.

I like seeing banners up there! I mean, it's a great way to learn about upcoming games without being obnoxiously spammed with grossly distracting advertisements.

What I am wondering about is why we don't see more ads up there! What better way is there for publishers to advertise multiplayer mac games, or even single player mac games! I mean, there are hundreds of mac gamers seeing it at the same time, and it's the only ad on their entire screen! What better way to advertise mac games. I think publishers are missing a great opportunity by not having their ads put on gameranger.

I say: More banners!!! More ads!!!

The more the merrier, because the more there are, the less we have to worry about forced-paying and shutting it down altogether.

[Jeb]

start using as many http proxies as you can find to click the ads, hell i could give it 500clicks from "different" ips if i tried in a few hours.

As for publishers... think about the last few games that had shit for GR support, AA, AVP2, and if i'm not mistaken UT2k3 didn't come with built in GR support. Combine that with the fact that we haven't seen an ad in 6 months untill a few weeks ago, and you'd think that the developers turned their back on him.

MB this isn't such a bad idea now...
Evill: HIT THE PAYPAL QUOTA, AND TYPHY AND RAPID GET BANNED!
 

[†FiRE Infection]

I agree with Bucc.  This would completely suck if GR was shut down, we wouldn't be together, Evill has an empire and without it the mac gaming community will take a step backwards and all these battle league updates and games will be lost, along with many friendships.  Please click the adds and pay 50 dollars for Premium.  You can all afford it, I'm 15 years old and I worked 24 hours last week and I made 150 dollars, come on guys.

[Cow]

thank god i am on a PC now. Phew.  but still it is sad to see this happen =( good ol GR.  There will be a lot of lost friendships but i bet apple could pick up the slack if we all went to them and begged and pleaded.  This would be a penny for apple as well, wouldnt cost them a lot all.  I think some of the more hardcore gamers would switch to PC if GR was not around and we know apple would not want this to happen.

[Maniac]

Ya im going to get my mom to get me it. Pay the 49.95 ONE time a year and thats it. i hate fucking cheap ass people it's really is pathetic if you can aford  the internet, games and computer you can afford premium. Just what bucc said,  and well said i might add.

[Typhy]

Yeah, if you can afford your computer and internet connection, then you can afford permium. If you can afford permium, then you can afford MOH:AA, if you can afford MOH:AA, you can afford SH, if you can afford SH, you can afford RTCW, if you can afford RTCW, then you can afford UT 2003, if you can afford UT 2003, you can afford SOF2, if you can afford SOF2, you can afford AvP, if you can afford AVP, you can afford AVP 2, if you can afford all that, then you can afford a new computer.

Priorities, guys. Personally, I'd rather spend money on things that I want, as oposed to making donations when I don't have much cash to spare.