GameRanger Shutting Down?

[*DAMN Hazard]

I don't understand why Apple wouldn't advertise hardware. I only don't have premium cause I don't have a credit card and my parents wouldn't spend 50 dollars on a gaming app.

[Typhy]

I'll buy premium later today, simply to show my support for GameRanger, however, I can see why not everyone is willing to.

[Typhy]

There! It's done! It's bought!

[|MP|Buccaneer]

Priorities, guys.

That's it right there Typhy.  And if GameRanger is a priority, then people should donate to it.  If GR isn't a priority, then people shouldn't bitch about it.

The bottom line is that anyone that doesn't donate to GR (ie pay for premium) has no real right to bitch if Evill was to close it down.  

[Typhy]

I completly agree with Bucc.

I have no problem with people who don't pay for Premium, however, obvious it's a lower priority than other things for you. That's your choice. However, if you don't pay, you don't have the right to complain about it.

[Maniac]

Muahha i can complain now.

[*DAMN Hazard]

I'm gonna try to get a hold of my parents credit card with a good excuse and put some food on Scott's table and some joy in his heart.

[kami]

I thought I was going to have to write half a page about the subject, but Bucc already wrote everything needing to be said so I guess I won't have to do that.

Just one thing though, putting 'GR Forever' behind your name isn't going to help at all, I see too many newbie users (that aren't premium) with that tag and that is really fucking annoying. Just buy the fucking shit and be happy.

[tasty]

gameranger: bitch bitch bitch, whine whine whine
evill (cat): reeeer!!! HISS HISS (makes clawing noises)


evill should just update less and get a day job. I have a tough time accomodating the complaints of one whose job is to sit at home and update an online gaming service, regardless of how low his pay is.

[Typhy]

I agree, Kami. If it's important enough to you, that you'd wear that beside your name, then fork over the money, and you've got the right to complain.

[Maniac]

yes im sick of hearing it.

[|MP|Buccaneer]

Tasty, if that's the way you feel about it, then you should have no complaints if he closed it, right?  I mean, why should he do this when he could make a shit load more money slinging code full time, right?  And no, nobody wants him to make sure every new game works with GR, right?  And everyone is so nice to him, and never give him shit, right?



I really don't get the "I want it for nothing, and I'm still going to bitch that it's not good enough" attitude so many people have.

[jn.loudnotes]

I'm inclined to agree, but I think even people who don't pay for it have some right to complain.  As I'm not an active user I can't really speak for either side, but it seems to me, if Evill just up and closed everything - everyone would have something to complain about.

It's like Frankenstein - if you create a monster (or an online community) you have some responsibility (morally, if not legally) to maintain it.  So if Evill closed up shop, it'd be rather rude unless he handed over the whole operation to someone else.

It'd be kind of like if Mauti just shut this forum off all of a sudden.  That'd be awfully rude. . .certainly we'd all have a right to complain if he didn't transfer things to someone else.  Similarly, this forum is a resource provided by Mauti.  It's not exactly analogous to GameRanger since it's not a lot of trouble to update.  But still, what if Mauti charged a fee here?  Maybe something comparable in scale.  Would you pay $5 a year for the right to post here?  I suppose my thought is just that just because that $5 is affordable doesn't mean it's right.

[iGnome]

I just feel that first off Jeb loves the cock and that mb we should help out scott I mean, fuck like this is basicly his job to maintain it next time I go to worl I'll have 100 buck either I'll help scott or buy a fat sack of weed but I'll go with the GR support. Think about it before it's gone or a fuckin Nazi buys GameRanger.

[Jackal.aHa!]

If i can use my dads card and I have 50 bucks to spare i will buy it.  We really abuse GR, though i would rather pay 60 bucks and have it forever, than pay 50 per year.  Ok lets see...rogue spear costs..45 dollars when i bought it.  Its been over a year and a half and i still play it...however i could use the RS multiplayer option and not even use GR. And that goes for pretty much every game on there. So i would be paying for that, basicaly we are paying for the community in which we thrive.  I would be paying 50 dollars a month to play with people that are my friends or just guys/girls i know.  Or i could just get an IP address. It tricky, you know? You really have to ask yourself what you paying for...i would be paying to have a bigger profile and support Evill so i can play with my buddies and talk to my good friends everyday in a community.

I will try to upgrade!


Jackal

[Supernatural Pie]

? I would be paying 50 dollars a month?

Year. 50 dollars a year. But you knew that.

[tasty]

Actually, since im not really active in any games now, it would probably bother me more if these forums closed down. But I would understand if evill closed GR down. Plus I dont bitch about GR and I'm not an ass to Evill.

[|MP|Buccaneer]

Loud, the difference is, this web site isn't what Mauti does for a living.  And Mauti doesn't have to spend the amount of cash on network bandwidth that Evill does on GR.

Now, if Mauti couldn't afford to keep this site up anymore (say it was costing him $300 a month), then I would have to decide if it was worth paying $5 a year for (I'd say yes).  But, if he couldn't afford it, and other people didn't help him out, I would not think it rude if he just folded it up and didn't give all of it away to someone else.

One important point.  You talk about Evill's moral responsibility to keep it alive, well, that works both ways, as users, we have just as much or more moral responsibility to contribute to it.  We are part of the community, we need to pay our dues.  Otherwise, we are a community of parasites, and we'd get what any parasite deserves when they suck the host dry.

[0 Kilz:M:]

I highly doubt this will ever happen, but it's totaly possible.

This is the basic attitude I've noticed with alot of Mac gamers: ?I want it all for free and if I can't have it, I will whine like a bitch? It's just like with new games, so many f**kin people pirate the game, the porting house makes no money, and thus we get barely any mac titles, then they complain and wonder why mac has no games. IDIOTS!

If I was Evill, I'd make it a mandatory payment, hell Im not about to give anything away for free especially if I work for it. So all you freeloaders can just shut the f**k up, people like you end up sleepin on park benches...hell, it's free right?

[Supernatural Pie]

This has gotten slightly out of hand. Lets try to keep the flaming  between Premies and non-Premies to a minimum.

(Unless you're snipes (not me, the one with the noob sites))