Camping

[Subucni]

Been playing GhR for a few weeks now and enjoying every minute of it.

I wanted the group's opinion on camping because I have just been accused of it!

The situation was this: I was approaching a corner when I checked my map and saw three enemies the other side. As there was no cover I lay down and waited. They came round the corner one by one and I shot them. I then got up and went and shot someone else in another position. He was the last so they lost.

One of the three from the corner was very angry saying they lost because I camped. What should I have done? Stood up to make it fairer? Shot them from 3 different positions? Charged the corner?

If this is camping, I'm not sure what's wrong with it. If you were in a real fight and you had that opportunity you'd use it. If I had been them I'd have run round the block and attacked me from a different position - they knew were I was!

But as I say, I'm new. So what's the expert opinion?

[core.Sinister]

If you have sighted the enemy and are adamant theyre gonna pass your position (within a reasonable amount of time) its tactical and not camping.

Camping would be basically waiting around in one spot oblivious to where the enemy is in the hope of getting a few cheap kills as people run past.

Anyway its a term that pretty much comes from the older arena games like UT and Quake there should be much more leeway in tactical shooters like the Clancy games.

[KGB]

Sin could not have explained it better.
It is also a term used by guys who simply cannot take defeat and try to piss on your parade by calling you a camper/cheater.

Keep enjoying the game and don't mind the occasional pissant.

[jerkasaur]

Agreed. Ghost Recon is a tactical shooter where patience is rewarded. If the game mechanics allowed for a faster pace, run-and-gun type gameplay that counter-strike, unreal tournament, or battlefield 1942 offered, then I could see that "camping" would be frowned opon. But in ghost recon, running into a room w/ your OICW on full auto just blazing away will get you dead really quickly. In a gameplay sense, camping as some would call it (I call it being patient) is emphasised over being agressive and rewarded. Anyone who says otherwise is being a really sore loser.

On the other hand, camping in a place thats out of the way (say some random map edge) and not at all trying to take the objective is frowned opon and rightly so. The team that is forced to attack (in seige, WZ, assass) have a cetain objective, and by camping somewhere far out of the way spot from that objective does nothing to help your team win and is often just holding up the inevitable (the camper's loss in this case).

So in conclution, if your team is defending an objective, you have every right to camp wherever you damn well please. But if you're the attacker, you need to be more careful about your positioning. In your case, camping somewhere where 3 people ran by and all died is perfectly fine. Camping in some obscure hiding spot and not taking the objective is not and will often be met with your teams loss.

[Croosch]

Camping is part of the game... if you get angry about it you shouldn't be playing the game.

AND, if all three of them were dumb enough to keep coming around the corner then it's their own stupid fault they lost... really, find a different route.

[theweakspot]

for me, camping becomes an issue when a guy is in a non-strategic spot.   I mean, how many of us GhR'ers have sat through a player 'watching' the smoke from an area, camping until the other guy comes through, only to miss the guy?

Even worse is playing warzone of siege and watching the last 2 or 3 players camping still with 40 seconds or so left in the match and still half a map away from the zone.

GhR has really evolved to the point where I haven't had a camping problem in a long long long time.  Either you can figure out a way to root them out with  a frag, GL or rocket, or simply can avoid him.

Camping now is a term that is thrown about by people who kow they got killed stupidly and want to save face.