The Finals and Mac Shoutcasting

[KoS.Rebel]

Dear Clans who are in the finals....

I need to know if you guys want me to shoutcast during the finals. Some clans are cool with it but some clans still dont understand what shoutcasting is. What i need to know is, is everyone going to want to be shoutcasted? The people who arent in the finals defeninately want me to shoutcast but im trying to figure out which ladders i will shoutcast. I need to hear from those in the RvS and GhR ladders. Could someone tell me if you will allow me to cover the finals. Its up to the clans and i just want to know which ones want me to shoutcast them....those who dont reply i guess i wont shoutcast....your loss. Plz reply here.

[Croosch]

I'll have a chat with Twist and see if he's alright with it on cO's behalf (I'll then edit this post later)

[KoS.Rebel]

Frankly, there is nothing wrong with shoutcasting. Everything is delayed 1 min to prevent cheating, other shoutcasting networks have been bringing shoutcasts live for years and they run great. Im wondering what the mac community sees wrong with shoutcasting, but oh well. Those who want the glory can take it.

[theweakspot]

I like the concept of shoutcasting and think you have done a good job getting it all together, I assume you do this on your own time and on your own dime.

But in order to make it fun for the GhR community I think you might want to bursh up on tour GhR maps so that you can better narrate the action.

[BFG]

Don't think we have any problem with the shoutcasting for the finals - its been fine in the past and as long as lag isn't an issue (like that little 7v7 with *NRG ) then im sure we'll be up for it

I'll confirm with Sab and check back....

[KoS.Rebel]

The lag in the 7v7 wasnt due to me...no matter what game i join i will get 1 red bar cause im broadcasting, but once people understand how lag works they will see that i dont pose a problem. Here is how hosting and lag works.

A host computer hosts. A person joins the server. The amount of time between that persons computer sending the data and the host recieving it and sending it back is what we call ping. So therefore, the amount of people will determine how quickly a host computer communicates with them because the more people it has to communicate with the longer it will take. So, if u guys are playing u will recieve decent pings while I am communicating with 20 others while i shoutcast and then commmunicate with the host computer it should only slow up my ping, not yours.

I hope that made sense. If i need to clear things up about lag then i will do so. If your clan wants to see if i make a differance plz set up a practice and i will join and you guys can feel how it would be like.

[kos.viper]

Actually, Latency is the cause of lag.  Too much latency and you'll be skipping like a little girl on halloween.

[KoS.Rebel]

Yes....and u havent seen it from my angle...its funny....everyone skips everywhere.....but im not causing others lag just myself.

[BFG]

hehe believe me... i was skipping  ... and ice skating... and parachuting... and just about every activity other than my guy using his two feet as normal

[KoS.Rebel]

Its all cause GR.....one person slows down the entire game....mb if everyone joined by IP insted of GR it wouldnt lag.....

[Aramarth]

Nice try.

[Civrock]

guys with very low pings definitely slow down respectively lag the game in GhR.

Its all cause GR.....one person slows down the entire game....mb if everyone joined by IP insted of GR it wouldnt lag.....

quoting from the BL rules: "Only clanbattles set up through GameRanger are counted towards the ladder." GameRanger doesn?t allow IP joining anymore since some updates ago cuz of several important points... -> sry, but IP joining is not allowed in the *DAMN BL. [/color]

[BTs_GhostSniper]

quoting from the BL rules: "Only clanbattles set up through GameRanger are counted towards the ladder." GameRanger doesn?t allow IP joining anymore since some updates ago cuz of several important points... -> sry, but IP joining is not allowed in the *DAMN BL.

That is incorrect Civic.  The Rules state that the clanbattle has to be SET UP through GameRanger, not PLAYED through GameRanger.  If that was not the case, then please tell me how anyone would be able to play an America's Army CB???

It is perfectly legal to open up a room in GameRanger to set up a CB, and then go start Ghost Recon or any other game and let everyone IP join.

-GhostSniper Out.

[Civrock]

for AA because there is no other possibility, okay i forgot about that... but definitely not for GhR. there are several reasons... one is the GameRanger GhR anti-cheat protection for example.

[BTs_GhostSniper]

for AA because there is no other possibility, okay i forgot about that... but definitely not for GhR. there are several reasons... one is the GameRanger GhR anti-cheat protection for example.

That is not very clear in the rules.  Also, how do clans that have members who are not Premium use their voice communication software if they can't IP join for a CB?

Also, from the first line of the Battle League Rules:

"Ip joining as well as other platform players are only allowed if both clans agree."

[BFG]

Also, how do clans that have members who are not Premium use their voice communication software if they can't IP join for a CB?

They don't. basically! sorry that sounds really blunt and short but thats basically it as far as i understand the rules *DAMN only accepts games that have been organised and played through GR


- scratch that. i need to go read the rules again!! -

[BTs_GhostSniper]

Also, how do clans that have members who are not Premium use their voice communication software if they can't IP join for a CB?

They don't. basically! sorry that sounds really blunt and short but thats basically it as far as i understand the rules *DAMN only accepts games that have been organised and played through GR

Now go back and look at what I added to my post right before yours.

So, as long as the CB is set up in GameRanger, and both clans agree, then you can start GhR outside of GameRanger and let everyone IP join.

[BFG]

Now go back and look at what I added to my post right before yours.

Ditto

We'll have to clarify all this but from :MoD: point of view i see no problems and as long as we make it we lookforward to some shoutcasting!

[crypt]

I like to hear the shoutcastings, put the server on a good host and Ven, turn your quality down a lot. I want to hear the games in the finals that i won't be participating in. Just play smaller finals matches like 4v4 or 5v5.

[KoS.Rebel]

It could easily be done. Its just gonna take some cooperation. But it can be done.