Meeting-point for Finalists

[| ! | Dutchman]

So, what does that leave us?  Weekends.

Yes it draws it out a little, but if we are going to do a playoff, it's only fair to play them on the weekends if you must schedule them.  You have all day Saturday and Sunday to play best of 3 CB's.  You have all week to schedule it.   Morning or afternoon for the americas, late afternoon or evening for the euros.

I guess that's why Mauti allready suggested:

However I have already found a solution for season 6 without extending the 9day final time period: Only the best 4 proceed into the finals and each round will be completly played on the weekend. So even US - EUR clans should be able to play at decent times.

Bye,

Mauti

Sounds fair to me. And it also proves my point that people from the BattleLeague are actually listening to problems.

| ! | Dutchman

PS: @ Aramath: my bad, I pressumed you were from the west coast as well. Sorry.

[Acri]

Please Noto,
Americans are in no way underrepresented. You have a majority of the players and I think a majority of the moderators? I understand you feel as if though Mauti is the only one that can change rules. You said you could get a hundred people to agree on it and then still get effect? Well, admit Noto, that maybe you haven't been the most thoughtful poster on this thread. If everyone keeps their language clean and stays off "ESD" and actually raises the question in a serious way, much more like real politics, I am sure that you would get moderator attention, and with that, a chance to do good. Openly bashing the admins is no way to change the system. It is childish and radical.

In the real world, the world is not changed by saying "I have opinions but you won't listen and I am sure you won't even bother so I'll just whine about it *throw cobblestone*". You have to actually put your suggestion in a way that people feel motivated. Me and Civic worked over 3 hours in total yesterday solving a simple glitch issue. Why did we bother? Because we didn't hear "They glitched and now we won't play." The clan that contacted Civic wished for a temporary ruling saying this (hitherto unseen?) glitch may not be used.I

I say, take this as a good sign! If an admin like Civic is willing to spend the time from 11 PM-2 AM on watching replays and experimenting and haggling with clan leaders, I am sure there is hope for this ladder. If I am not mistaken, weren't there a new set of rules mid-season?

I also hope Noto, that you are now past your anger with me for supporting Flies. I did so because he didn't say eat shit and die. In fact, I actually do hold a grudge against Flies for personal reason, but I wouldn't go so far as to say eat shit and die in the public forum.
I also hope that you are past whatever hard feelings you had against me, as I only tried to help out. I never meant to flame nor america-bash. I rather hope to be an active part of finding the solution. In case you are still mad at me (or whatever it was) feel free to email me contact me on GameRanger.

[Noto]

Please Noto,
Americans are in no way underrepresented. You have a majority of the players and I think a majority of the moderators?

I do not mean to beat a dead horse... but I believe I have pointed out why the US moderators have been inadequate.  If anything, I feel that we (North American players) are more misrepresented than underrepresented.

I understand you feel as if though Mauti is the only one that can change rules.

Wow... how many times have you heard this from an admin:

I agree with you, but let's wait to see what Mauti says.
I agree with you, brother admin, but what does mauti think?
Well, I know what I think, but i don't really get into the whole "rules" thing.  We need to consult Mauti.

More often than not, it is the Admins who asked for Mauti to step in, not the members.  And if you check out the last 14 rulings by Mauti, he tends to agree with whatever was posted last in a thread, and somewhat disregarding what came before it.

Openly bashing the admins is no way to change the system. It is childish and radical.

Whoa... when have I openly bashed an Admin? (VooDoo does not count... even then, it was still behind his back)

In the real world, the world is not changed by saying "I have opinions but you won't listen and I am sure you won't even bother so I'll just whine about it *throw cobblestone*". You have to actually put your suggestion in a way that people feel motivated.

Acri, I know what the real world is like.  I've been living it for many years now.  The world around me is changed by those who think rationally.  Since this is a Euro league, I sometimes feel compelled to shed my "nice face" and put on my "grumpy face".  Also, in the real world, if I fuck up, I don't get paid, and then I don't eat.  If I fuck up here, Rapid just posts nonsense and some noob will say I was pwned.

I also hope that you are past whatever hard feelings you had against me, as I only tried to help out. I never meant to flame nor america-bash. I rather hope to be an active part of finding the solution. In case you are still mad at me (or whatever it was) feel free to email me contact me on GameRanger.

I'm not mad at you.  You did what you were compelled to do.  If I was in yoru shoes, I would most likely have done the same thing.  Although, I still might have said "Eat shit & die".  It's just catchy.  If you think about it, you would actually never really say that to someone's face and mean it.  Therefore, it's somewhat amusing to do it online.  And as most Germans know, you won't die from eating shit.  There is a ton of documented porn that backs me up on this.

.::|N| Noto

[| ! | Dutchman]

Since this is a Euro league, I sometimes feel compelled to shed my "nice face" and put on my "grumpy face".

You don't seem to get it Noto. This isn't a Euro league. It's a world league. Where GhR players from the Mac community all over the world come together to battle. Not only Europeans.
And don't give me that Euro-time-advantage bs, cause a) it was bad for all and b) it has been solved.

Well nm, flame me with something else....

| ! | Dutchman

[BFG]

Guys i am somewhat confused by this argument about *DAMN's status as a Euro or American BL ... I Don't understand the relevence to be honest. I have never ever thought as *DAMN as being one or the other for one simple reason. Q what is damn? A. A very large group of mac gamers... So if there were no mac gamers what would damn be? well nothing.. there wouldn't be a damn. As far as i am concerned A mac gamer is a mac gamer whether he's from New York, Paris, Amsterdam, Texas, London , Milan, St Petersburg, Sydney. etc. It dosn't matter!!

Fine Mauti is a guy who lives in Europe. And what? Issues have arrisen becasue of the difficulty with finding times when different clans can play in the finals? Well why can't we just sort this out??

Personally i always felt slightly that due to the vast number of US players the BL has always been a bit slanted towards the US... One little reason for this you could say is just the difficulty Euro Clans have in finding CBs! We can't all stay up into the small hours of the morning when the US guys are on in bigger numbers because well its obviouse - it has a inpact on the BL though - On a personal note i know that With Sab away this season I looked for more cb's @ earlier times as i have to sleep a little more now - but i had little success. The end result was that we couldn't play many TeamGR cbs.. and didn't get many points... and when we did get cb's i was knackered and jut wanted to sleep! But thats my problem i know.

As I have said on the other forum, Is there no way that this issue can be resolved and some new system can be inplemented into damn (like the Council/mods as talked about on the .::N forums? Peronsally i would be very upset to see this Community of Mac players be destroyed... which inadvertantly i think it would.

Thanks

[Noto]

You don't seem to get it Noto. This isn't a Euro league. It's a world league. Where GhR players from the Mac community all over the world come together to battle. Not only Europeans...

Hey Dutch, I thought it was a world league too.  Are you, as a Euro player, saying that *DAMN is what I thought it was, a world league?

Apologies to the N clan. Of course I don't mean the whole clan.

Noto, yes, I do kind of agree in america-bashing. Why? This is why:

This is a European ladder. It is run by europeans. The way I see it, americans are more than welcome to play...

Things that make you say hmm...

.::|N| Noto

[Mr. Pants Down]

[BFG]

Personally Acri I think that was a very stupid thing to say. I do not feel that the location DAMN (if there is on?!) is inportant. Yes Mauti is European. Are all the members of Damn American? are all the Admins american? or the Moderators? Those who play on the DAMN BL are from across the globe, therfore it is simply A community of Mac Gamers.

[| ! | Dutchman]

Hey Dutch, I thought it was a world league too.  Are you, as a Euro player, saying that *DAMN is what I thought it was, a world league?

Things that make you say hmm...

Noto, do you really think that all Europeans got the same opinion on everything? Do you?

In MY opinion this is a World League. Or are you living in Europe, Noto? If so, you got a very lousy ping.

| ! | Dutchman

[Noto]

Noto, do you really think that all Europeans got the same opinion on everything? Do you?

In MY opinion this is a World League. Or are you living in Europe, Noto? If so, you got a very lousy ping.

| ! | Dutchman

I always thought, and still do, it is a world league.  I was amazed that a comment like that was made from a Euro, and then not a single Euro at the time said "Hey, Acri, Shut it!  You don't speak for all of us!".  Now that BFG has said something, I can finally stop quoting Acri on that.  Although, it was funny...

.::|N| Noto

P.S.  I haven't lived in Europe for almost 15 years now.  Where else do you think I learned to pour the perfect Guinness??

[Acri]

OK, let's look at this example... the olympics are world wide... But if it is hosted in Atlanta... Doesn't Atlanta make sure everything works?

This is a "world championship" of course, I never intended anything else. But in MY opinion, the ladder in itself is European. Mauti is atlanta... the moderators are the olympics commitee. Woot. I sure hope that .::|N|etwork won't retire from *DAMN! We haven't even played yet
To all mistreated Americans: Mauti has promised that the problems will be resolved for next season. There is nothing left to argue about Be happy

[Noto]

But if it is hosted in Atlanta... Doesn't Atlanta make sure everything works?

No... Atlanta doesn't... remember? They had that bomb issue?

 

[|MP|Buccaneer]

Way to keep a bitch session going.

[.::|N| DIESEL]

1,000 Views and 90 posts in 2 days and 8 pages later!

woohoo!

[elite]

mmmmk......this is starting to get a little ridiculous.....

[.::|N| VeNoM]

this is insane...oh well bitch and complain, its gettin to be funny now then serious....so everyone whos gonna cry bout this and not let it go and move on to the next item at had can kiss it  

[Acri]

Good way to end the discussions VeNoM. Oh, and congratulations in advance for your 13th birthday. i'll buy you a virtual cake.

[Noto]

Good way to end the discussions VeNoM. Oh, and congratulations in advance for your 13th birthday. i'll buy you a virtual cake.

Venom = pwned

[Da? Swiftkill]

Sorry this is off the subject, but when do the semi-final cbs (the three for us against the core) have to be played by?

[Civrock]

Sorry this is off the subject, but when do the semi-final cbs (the three for us against the core) have to be played by?

hey,

the last cb of the 2nd round has to be played till midnight CEST. means it should start in the next 20 minutes when i check my clock. hurry up!

z][t-Civic