Cbing with PC's in game

[Typhy]

So is it the same when you play against me? I have a better computer than Xoclipse.  

[xoclipse1]

So is it the same when you play against me? I have a better computer than Xoclipse.  

Of course! See Kilzo?

[Saberian 3000]

I am not sure how the framerates are withing the RS community when it comes to PC's cause I never had the game for PC.  I do know for a fact about Ghost recon, and it does make a serious difference with framerate.  So for you guys arguing with each other, that was really my point here.  That the framerate for ghost recon was seriously different.  Maybe you guys should try opening a RS site about this topic.  Sorry if I confused this situation about which game, but I was specifically referring to Ghost recon.  Now with RS that could be a different story because the engine for RS is definitely different in comparison.  
     Anyway, I do agree with the new rule especially for Ghost recon.  Although maybe the RS thing could be talked about because I am sorry, but I cannot say I know how that would be affected with PC's comparing to Mac's in framerate in Rogue Spear.

[*DAMN Hazard]

I seem to remember handing you a beat down last season.

Speaking of beat downs big shot didn't I beat you in a 1v1 with a .40 USP pistol on traintracks gold on your server? Ah yes I did. Didn't Infection hand your ass to you 6-0 on storage gold? Oh wait you beat us once at the beginning of the season? Ha, me and psyks handed you your asses twice. Kilzo don't talk about people being leet, I don't claim to be, I claim to see a little punk and thats all you are. See you on the battlefield.

[AK_Rap1d]

Saberian, PC'ers get 60fps in RS while Mac Players get 20fps on a dual ghz

Ok, I totally agree with Kilzo & his feelings about PC'ers in Mac games.  It's like putting a Feather Weight fighter vs. a Heavy Weight fighter!  Yeah, real fair!  Why do some allow the Heavy Weight fight the Feather Weight fighter?  Because the Heavy Weight fighter is nice.  Does that make it fair?  Hell No!  So why even let the 2 fight in the 1st?  Exactly mine and kilzo's point!  

In a game where the gameplay's supposed to be fun and even, it is far from that when you are mixing playing the 2 platforms, which are very uneven in speed/frame rate.  I don't feel it's fun to play vs. people that are not evenly matched!  Why doesn't Xo or Ejo play in PC games?  Because they get their ass handed to them!  Of course they know they can own the slow ass 20fps Mac Players with their 60fps Pentium5's!  So they often find themselves coming back to the Mac games, in hope to feel superior.  PC players have so many g'damn leagues, it's only obvious the only reason to join this one, is to have an advantage over everybody else in it, giving them an actual chance since they can't even compete vs their own and succeed!  Why join regular games?  To be able to actually "own" somebody, even though it's thanks to their computer, and not their skill.  

And don't worry about Typhy, kilzo.  He's just out to defend xo, no matter what bs it takes.  He threw that in there to confuse you.  Xo's and Ejo's computer's are obviously too fast for our macs, and have installed the "See Enemies on Map" cheat, which allows them to see you on the map, even when have jammers, which is why you always see them prefire-killing people around corners even with jammers out, and their "perfect aim", which allows them to shoot in your general direction, and hit you in the head.  Also known in the PC world as an "Aimbot".  All these BS'ers can't get away with this bs in PC games, because they get spotted and booted right away, but since our community is so naive to all this, we often are confused into believing they just got lucky.  Of course, this is like 20 out of the 25 games they'll play with you. Yeah, real lucky...

These PC'ers need to get the fuck out of our community with their 2x faster computers, "perfect aim" and "show enemies" cheats.   Easy as that. RS and GhR

[*DAMN Hazard]

Your lack of knowledge of PC cheats amazes me. Perfect aim is when you always have perfect reticule. Rapid I have seen xo and ejo play with my own eyes they don't cheat. You wouldn't know anything about it untill you have played against a real aimbotter. You don't know for a fact that they have aimbots. And is it possible for someone to just have exceptional aim? Or is it possible that some players actually ALWAYS prefire on certain maps in certain areas.. I know I do.

[AK_Rap1d]

Nice try haz, but no.  No such coincidence.  Especially prefiring around corners with jammers out in 10 diff maps in 20 out of 25 games.  No such coincidence.  

I know you want to defend your clanmates, in hope they'll be allowed to CB for your clan, but sorry.  It's obvious they cheat, and I'm saying this because I've played with both when they had macs, and now when they have PC's, and their game changed drastically.  While others that have been around just as long, if not longer, have no such luck around corners with jammers out.   As many times as I have seen ejo take wild shots in a general direction, and get 2 or 3 head shots, while the 2 or 3(who happened to be excellent RS players) where shooting back in his general direction, and not being able to hit with the ease he had, yeah, some "coincidence"...  You're over it.  I've seen it with my own 2 eyes, as have many.  You're not going to change my mind, or the mind of those who have experienced it first hand.  

[xoclipse1]

Saberian, PC'ers get 60fps in RS while Mac Players get 20fps on a dual ghz

Ok, I totally agree with Kilzo & his feelings about PC'ers in Mac games.  It's like putting a Feather Weight fighter vs. a Heavy Weight fighter!

Excuse me Rapid, but aren't you the "heavy" weight fighter?

 Yeah, real fair!  Why do some allow the Heavy Weight fight the Feather Weight fighter?  Because the Heavy Weight fighter is nice.  Does that make it fair?  Hell No!  So why even let the 2 fight in the 1st?  Exactly mine and kilzo's point!  

Sorry Rapid, I can't understand this portion of your post, please attempt to for complete thoughts. Also, expand on your sentence, "Because the Heavy Weight fighter is nice".

In a game where the gameplay's supposed to be fun and even,

Hell yeah Rapid, I agree with you 100%, it's so much fun owning people(you). It's a pity the only people you own are in your own clan, well, if even that.

it is far from that when you are mixing playing the 2 platforms, which are very uneven in speed/frame rate.  I don't feel it's fun to play vs. people that are not evenly matched!  

Rapid I'm there with you, I say we should evenly match people. We could do this by playing in divisions, people who suck(you) against other people that suck(kilzo), and everyone else vs. eachother. It's perfect. I love your problem solving abilities Rapid.

Why doesn't Xo or Ejo play in PC games?  Because they get their ass handed to them!

Why don't we? I as well as ejo play in pc games on the MSN Zone, and occasionaly gamespy. Unfortuantely, Urban Ops games are harder to come by, being that there are so many other gaming choices, and rs is an older game, so it is not played as oftenly.

they get their ass handed to them!

asses*

 Of course they know they can own the slow ass 20fps Mac Players with their 60fps Pentium5's!  So they often find themselves coming back to the Mac games, in hope to feel superior.  

Oh yeah, we play rs with mac's to feel "superior", just like you are "superior" to the  entire RS Mac Community.

60fps Pentium5's

P4's*

PC players have so many g'damn leagues, it's only obvious the only reason to join this one, is to have an advantage over everybody else in it, giving them an actual chance since they can't even compete vs their own and succeed!  

Rapid, again, I can not stress enough your need to form complete thoughts. Didn't they teach you this in elementary school?

Why join regular games?  To be able to actually "own" somebody, even though it's thanks to their computer, and not their skill.  

Yep, it's all our computer. Rapid, go ahead and get on a pc, and I'd love to watch you still suck.

[*DAMN Hazard]

Dude. Ejo owned in KoS he was good on a mac. Xo owned in OOA he was good on a mac. Ok whatever keep telling yourself they cheat.

[AK_Rap1d]

duh!  I know they were good.  Shit, I've played with them too many fucking time.  The changes in their gameplay is DRASTIC.  Nothing that I've seen anybody do.  Shit, Silvio is good, and he doesn't even get so lucky to shoot in a general direction, and get 2 or 3 headshots vs other good players.  I know wtf I'm talking about.  I also know you really need that "edge" in your clan.  Nobody gets that much better without something fishy going on.  Let alone the fact they're getting 60fps, while we get 20fps on a empty GR day!

PC's and Mac's are not equal, therefore not fair to fight each other.  End of story.  

But if you're from a clan that's obsessed with winning with PC'ers doing their dirty work, hey, it's all good then!

[xoclipse1]

Xo's and Ejo's computer's are obviously too fast for our macs,

Correct.

and have installed the "See Enemies on Map" cheat,

Rapid, your confusing that with "I'm a noob and walk around every corner while scratching my ass" Nice, Rapid.

Xo's and Ejo's computer's are obviously too fast for our macs,

Correct.

and have installed the "See Enemies on Map" cheat,

Rapid, your confusing that with "I'm a noob and walk around every corner while scratching my ass" Nice, Rapid.

which allows them to see you on the map, even when have jammers, which is why you always see them prefire-killing people around corners even with jammers out, and their "perfect aim", which allows them to shoot in your general direction, and hit you in the head.

Prefire is a tactic that I'm sure many skillful(no, not you) people use. Think of it this way, the "perfect aim", to which you cling to, is actually because the following idea goes in your mind, "I hear someone firing at that corner, let me go walk into the fire and try to shoot him". Yeah...walking into a line of fire usually wont result in anything good, but I'm sure you have experienced this already.

 Also known in the PC world as an "Aimbot".  

Rapid, my aimbot is not that complex, I even took a picture of it for you, http://66.246.110.207/~xoclipse/aimbot.jpg  -- lol

All these BS'ers can't get away with this bs in PC games, because they get spotted and booted right away, but since our community is so naive to all this, we often are confused into believing they just got lucky.  Of course, this is like 20 out of the 25 games they'll play with you. Yeah, real lucky...

It's not that the community is so naive, but there are assholes like you who like to cause problems.

These PC'ers need to get the fuck out of our community with their 2x faster computers, "perfect aim" and "show enemies" cheats.   Easy as that. RS and GhR [/size][/b][/color]

Damn, I love how it's "your" community. You speak for about 3 or 4 people in the rs community. Let's see again, who is the the most widely hated player on GameRanger. Uh huh...


Rapid, just leave this thread alone. Any place on the forum you go, you infect it with bad grammar, incomplete thoughts, and plain stupidity. Just...leave.

Sorry for double post. Oh and by the way, Rapid, you still suck.


In Response to Rapid's post:
while the 2 or 3(who happened to be excellent RS players) where shooting back in his general direction, and not being able to hit with the ease he had,

Shit jo, he's discovered our warp bot. rofl

[electronicjo]

Okay, for those of you who don't have a PC and can't "feel" what it's like with 60fps, I will show you.

Here are three different videos showing the same geometric figure rotating 360 degrees at different frames per second(10, 30 and 100). This should provide a good feel on the difference in FPS. However, the human eye can only notice around 60 - 80 fps, so it's not like 100 fps is super fast compared to 60 fps(I'm not even considering the fact that most monitor refresh rates are 65Hz to 75 Hz. But it is a good indicator of graphics power (especially when it's needed in Raven Shield).

http://home.attbi.com/~electronicjo/J10.mov
http://home.attbi.com/~electronicjo/J30.mov
http://home.attbi.com/~electronicjo/J100.mov

Now closely compare J30 and J100.  Can you tell how J30's fps isn't as 100% smooth as J100's? But you can easily tell the difference between J10 and J30/J100. Yes, FPS DOES make a playable difference but this should not be an excuse to say PCs have the complete advantages.

Typhy made a good point about this, is that why you want to ignore him?

And don't even try that 20fps on a dual GHz bullshit.

[AK_Rap1d]

hahahahahah xo.  Is that all you got?  because you have NO case helping you out.  

Anyways, nice try with the mockery and childish insults.  Too bad they did nothing for you.

Facts are something you can't run from!

Oh wait, but you think you know how to camouflage it.  Hah, you used to.  Now it's all too clear.

Double talking in your posts, won't make you innocent xo.  It proved even further why you shouldn't even be playing in any Mac games on GR.  

Go fight people with pentium4's.  Oh wait, you don't want to get owned.  Yeah, better keep trying to weasel your way in here.   But wait, you're only accepted by your clan.  Ahhhh, cry me a river.

Have a good day

[*DAMN Hazard]

Xo and Ejo only played in about 4-5 cbs combined so how is that dirty work? Rapid keep hiding.

[ACE Justin Sane]

well as some of you know I got the oppertunity to test an aimbot with M4mainman. and the way mainman pwned me with it on isnt anything near how ive seen Xoclipse play mainman got me headshots every time,I see XO get 3-5 hit kills. but I havnt seen XO play much lately so I may be wrong but he has prefired me around a corner maybe 3 times and i never hbs or jamm

also in case you havnt heard the mac duel 1.25 ghz ran programs faster then the 3.06 Ghz pc, of course not many of us have that fast of a mac (i have a 400 imac) but i think the idea of only letting them play if both clans agree was the best way to go to keep everyone happy. however I have no objection to PC players and they are welcome in my host any time.

some of you said that with this rule you will never CB but isnt that your fault for getting yourself kicked off in the first place?

[*DAMN Mauti]

First this PC - MAC comparison is total bs then you could also argue it is unfair that I have to play GR on my 400imac with 13fps or that someone plays GR at 1600*1200 while I have to stick with 640*480 which makes a big difference especially in GR.

This is a game and my decision to disallow IP joining and PC players by default(if both agree they can still play) has nothing to do with hardware it is just easier to observe and to handle issues if all games and players are joining via GameRanger.

It's only a game and only sore losers could argue with such bs arguments like hardware. Sure it makes a difference as well as ping and other things that influence the game much more but who cares. WINNERS ADAPT!

End of story,

Mauti

 

[Typhy]

Saberian, PC'ers get 60fps in RS while Mac Players get 20fps on a dual ghz

Whoa, where'd you get that idea? My computer:

867g4, 1GB RAM, 128MB Geforce 4.

While I don't belive that RS has an FPS counter, I get perfect framerates on it.

Same with my powerbook:

1GHZ Powerbook g4, 768RAM, 64MB ATI Radeon 9000 Pro.

Perfect framerates.

I play RS at 1600 x 1200. ( I think, to lazy to restart and check. Pretty sure that's the highest one, though ).

Perfect framerates, 1600 x 1200, 22 inch monitor, sexy 5 button mouse, kick ass headphones, and an apple keyboard - are you going to stop playing against me now?

[Jeb]

Ah, rapid why are you even talking? Your not on the ladder, you only causes problems.

RS limits 60fps max by default in multiplayer, if your computer sucks, or you play under the min requirements thats your problem. Ejo owned RS when he played under the minimum for a few years on his shitty iBook. Its such bs to claim PC hardware gives an advantage to a PC in RS. RS isn't graphically intensive at all, my 466mhz g4 pulled 90fps in single player when i turned off the fps limiter in the prefs file.

Even in GHR your whining doesn't hold any water. Look at Ace, most people consider him a great GHR player, he plays on a 500mhz tiBook with half the min requirement for videoram. Yet, he does better than the bastards with dual 1.42ghz G4s.

Winners adapt, losers find excuses...

[Typhy]

Well, aparently there has been a huge difference in how good Ejo is since he moved to PC. He was a good mac player, but most all good players could beat him.

If Ejo has gotten way better, I may find that a bit odd. However, I would never jump to the conclusion that he cheats.

When Xoclipse had his mac, I beat him 7-5 in a 1v1.

When he got his PC, and installed more RAM in it, he beat me 5-4-1.

( Note: In both cases, he had a 5-1 lead, so in the 7-5 one, he was but one tie away from getting the same score as the second one ).

As you can see, not a big difference.

When Ejo had his Mac, and played on GameRanger, I probably could've beaten him about 6-4. Now that he has his PC, I would expect it to be more along the lines of 10-9.

You adjust to playing on a bad computer, and when you get a good one, there will be a point where you play extremely well, after you've had it for a while, you'll even out a bit, and go back towards normal. - Just like Mainman.

[AK_Rap1d]

Winners adapt, losers find excuses...

(Jeb became the best guy with excuses, after we 0wn3d him 6-1, when he was in (uNt clan )

Ahhh, Hypocrite at work. Coming from the mouth of the person who found a new excuse on a daily, on why he didn't want to lose a CB to us again.  If anything Jeb, after we spanked you 6-1, you should've grew an apetite for revenge.  Oh wait, you have an anti-AK clan.  Your apetite grew quite large, and still at work.  Almost forgot

Being that the difference between the PC's and Macs are so significant, to keep it fair, the 2 should not be battling(and won't be battling in any of our hosted games).  It's the leading edge PC's carry(in video games ), but who cares on such unstable systems for other tasks.