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« on: October 03, 2001, 10:26:47 am »

Post your BETA info in this thread, please keep your posts ABOUT the BETA, and nothing else! I want to keep it semi organized Grin
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« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2001, 10:38:36 pm »

Grin well coco you know who this is i hope i guess i got lucky to get the download and bro you are a piece or art i mean this mod is the sh$# and i been trying to be on your beta team and try to learn how to do this modding stuff so you ever want me to help let me know or let cobra know and he can tell me but the mod is greatttttttttttttt still got more to look at so ill be giving you more feedback soon. i thing i did notice is that when you select the other frags the ones you guys put in the mod it dont have the sweet frag site like the origanal frags do maybe you can fix that but i love the way it looks when your throwing a frag and the site is a pic of a frag and it lites up and blinks when rdy to throw cool sh&^%^ keep up the good work.  
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« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2001, 12:14:55 am »

Well Coco and Cobra, I really dont know what to say. This thing is just awesome. Ive tested it since 6pm and its 11:18 right now. Ive tested every weapon in here. Ive looked at the textures, size, muzzle flash, unis, each sound of the weapon, and checked all the reticules. I dont have one single thing to report:  
1. I played this thing for 5 hrs straight and only crashed two times (I truly believe this was the computer and not the game, when it did crash I used the same exact weapons, team members, mission plan, and map. Never crashed a second time using the same kit items. I even always tried a third just to make sure).
2. I lost the sounds of weapons firing one time in the game, could hear everything else but just not the weapons firing (unless I was controlling that character) never had that happen to me before, again I think it was the computer. Never happened again, I tested it three times  and it didnt happen a sec or third time.
3. Third, the only constructive criticism I have for the entire mod right now is that some of the secondary pistols appear a little too big. They are not too big, just some like the para 16 appear a little big and too long in the hands of the characters. That is nit pickin, I know. Dont know if this is on purpose or not, all the models look great. Just thought I would tell ya.
4.  On the state dept. uni (think thats right, the gray one) the palm part or underside of the gloves appear to be white. I think you intended it to be that way. Either that or its not taking the texture.
I know this is one helluva post man, but I just wanted to get back to ya asap. I appreciate all the work you and cobra put into this.
Seriously, and you guys know this, man there has been nothing that comes close to this thing, and probably wont for a long time. Great job. Let me know if Im being too damn picky. Thanks for the opportunity to take a look at the beta.





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« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2001, 01:17:51 am »

got beat version, been playing it, this mod so far is best i have seen, nice splash screen, weapons models and sounds r sweet. still testing will report back, good work so far guys
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« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2001, 04:06:22 am »

used the new mod tonight it is pretty sweet one of the best it was a little laggy but otherwise it was great keep up the good work Smiley
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« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2001, 04:06:57 am »

well coco damn good job still testing it though i havent went far into detail with it because most my members didnt get a chance to get the download there r a few things i found like i dont see any jammers for the sensors dont know why but there not there and in single player you have too types of frags the first one has a kewl ass site for it and the one you added is a gun site not sure if thats on purpose or what but if my members can get the download we will get more in depth  with it let me know if they can get it and were
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« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2001, 08:20:57 am »

OK, got it, need to add the new frag reticule to the M67 frags, no prob. I will check the scaling on the pistols again, hey that's what a beta's for... As for the ones who didn't get it, sorry, but I had to pull the beta off the server due to the word getting out and too mant ppl dl'ing it.
BTW feedback is not just for bugs, you guys can post just to tell us what you think. Just try to tell about something in particular that you liked, didn't like, etc...
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« Reply #7 on: October 04, 2001, 09:48:28 am »


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BTW feedback is not just for bugs, you guys can post just to tell us what you think. Just try to tell about something in particular that you liked, didn't like, etc...


I thought the whole thing stunk!    Shocked
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« Reply #8 on: October 04, 2001, 11:10:55 am »

lol You got the wrong mod! Hey u'r messing up the organization!
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« Reply #9 on: October 04, 2001, 11:37:30 am »

Roll Eyes well coco i like the mod i like it alot i like the models of the guns and like i said there still alot i have to do for testing this. but you will here alot from me about it. ok ? on the loading splash screen when you join a game there is a part around the guy that is shaded darker is it suposed to be like that ? also i love the way it is so real to life by the weight of the weapons and stuff like when you carry the missle launcher dont jump its fatel lol. ill get back to ya coco glad i was lucky to get the mod  Grin
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« Reply #10 on: October 04, 2001, 12:16:50 pm »

Hey man no offense but use some punctuation! All splash and loading screens are exactly as they should be. The image you are describing is actually the standard RS image. Thax, have fun w/ it.
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« Reply #11 on: October 04, 2001, 01:09:35 pm »

Preliminary Findings:

Splash Screens: All Checked out okay and noticed no promblems. They are a nice substitution to the old mission planning screen. All weapons but the default SPAS-12 showed up in the Kit selection screen. However, this is most likely due to your update of this weapon.

Skins: The skins came out nicely. Some looked alittle odd, at the joints, but this is nicpicking. There were no visible problems. This includes the AI uniforms.

Weapons: I have not tested all the weapons. I'm about 60% complete. I am extremely impressed. The weapons are highly detailed. The lightly within and around redicule also showed up well and did help vision somewhat (NV is still the best way to go). One problem I noticed was with the AI's firing their weapons. Few emitted muzzle flashes. Though I did not give them many chances. Also in some case, as with the H&K MP5 A3 (I will have to recheck which one exactly) I emptied 1/2 a click into a tango just to drop him. I had a perfect fix on abdomen too. I presume this is due to increased body armor though. Weapons also seemed a tad bit large.

AI: The AIs do act somewhat oddly in the Training maps. Sometimes they run into walls and keep running. The AIs seem to be a little smarter in the Training maps. They are not as easily goated into ambushes, react faster, and refuse to pile up in one area. Instead they choose to split up and cover more areas (noted this in City Street Large).

Compatability: I also tested the weapons in US Tac with other skins and received no problems. Skins showed up nicely in user created maps, unlike with Official SWAT Mod (for me at least). And other weapons work with your skins.

This is prliminary. I'll post a comlpete report just as soon as possible. However, overall, this is one of the greatest mods created. You really out done yourself!!!!!!
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« Reply #12 on: October 04, 2001, 01:15:52 pm »

The Tango AI is improved, so they are more likely to duck and cover and try to surprise you. They all have heavy armour stats, so 9mm shots to the body are not the best option, go for head or leg shots or use a heavier ammo.
I had not noticed them behaving abnormally, running into walls, but it may be one of those things RS does. All I did was increase their stats and armour, and change the kits, code-wise. I also did not notice any probs with muzzle flashes, but will double check.

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« Reply #13 on: October 04, 2001, 02:10:30 pm »

The USAS is messed up again. I will fix it tonight. I am going to have to change it to a standard loading configuration for a shotgun...that means one round at a time, but a least the weapon will work.
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« Reply #14 on: October 04, 2001, 02:48:42 pm »

hmmmmmm that sucks. You mean that the standard loading config won't work with the shotgun ammo? can we make it a regular assault rifle with a low rate of fire and using the shotgun ammo? The shotgun loading kinda eliminates the point of having a drum mag ya know?
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« Reply #15 on: October 04, 2001, 08:40:25 pm »

ok i finally got the chance to do some testing, and here's my list of things that caught my eye...

1) Nice spinning logo, as usual

2) I am pleased to see that the gun models with flashlights on them are made so that the white part is brighter so that it looks more 'on', i willing to bet you will get less ppl asking how to activate the thing now

3) New in game text that adds character is very clever

4) New gore is much more detailed than rse's gore, looks good

5) Uniform detail is AWESOME, i never saw anything looking so good. great job on the tango's too, theyre pretty friggin badass now

6) the M-60: VERY kewl, for a huge gun like that you dont get the ret bloom you would normally get with 200 rounders.

7) Landwarrior: random reticule change of color? sometimes its black, once it was red, in all cases it was black at some point and didnt turn green again till i got near or into a gunfight with a tango or entered a room with a tango or was near a teammate who fired at a tango. strange...

Cool Landwarrior: green part of ret was misaligned: too far down, it only happened once. i also dont know what people will think about the lack of current ret bloom status, being that it doesnt show it.

9) nice flashlight rets, better than first time rets like that u made were featured.

10) AWESOME sound on the Anti Tank big boom thingie i forgot the name... good model, i use it instead of a sniper rifle now...

11) The unholy steyr aug u talked about is SO badass, mama said iz the DEVIL!!! ("the waterboy" for all you non movie theater goers) gun sounds good too, it really almost feels like a laser sight when using the ret on 3rd person, even tho its just a red dot. same with flashlight rets.

12) The mouse cursor thing is a clever surprise

13) new muzzle flashes are as good if not better than rse's

14) who could forget the KiKaSs splash screens? the new look to the custom mission menu is nicer on the eye, and all the other splash screens look great.


hows THAT for feedback? hehe later ppl.
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« Reply #16 on: October 04, 2001, 09:30:06 pm »

Ive tested and tested this thing people, cant find nothing wrong. Ive never seen a mod this complete on first beta test. So far everything Ive read, seems to be individual preferences, not a single bug, lmao. Great job guys. Still looking it over, will report later.
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« Reply #17 on: October 05, 2001, 06:05:49 am »

All finished. Here is what I found

Splash Screen: All showed up okay. This includes weapon previews except default Splash SPAS-12. However, this is mainly due to the fact that you remade it.

AI: Suspect AIs came out nicely. Problem I noted to earlier did not reappear in testing.

Skins: Skins came out nicely. This includes tango skins

Compatability: The weapons and skins worked well with other.

Weapons: In order as tested. I checked weapon texture, redicule, did rounds strike suspect. There have been mods where rounds did no damage to suspects. Finally I checked out the sound of the weapons, including reload. Weapon was checked in all available views

Primary Weapons

H&K 53 A5N: All okay
H&K MP5A3: All Okay
H&K MP5 SD5: All Okay
H&K 53K: All Okay
H&K PDW: All Okay
IMI Uzi Smg: All Okay
IMI Mini Uzi Smg: All Okay
Mossberg Compact: All Okay
H&K 53 A5N: All okay
Colt M-16 A2: All Okay
Colt M-203: All Okay
Colt M-4: All Okay
H&K UMP 45 Smg: All Okay
H&K MP5A3: all Okay
H&K MP5 SD5: All Okay
H&K 33A2: All Okay
Remington 870: All Okay
Springfield Armory M-14: All Okay
Remington 700: All Okay
Colt M16A2 (USDOE SRT): All Okay
Colt M4 (USDOE SRT): All Okay
MP5 A4-40: All Okay
MP5 A4-40SD: All Okay
H&K 33w/M79: All Okay
M60 Machine Gun: All Okay
Franchi SPAS-12: All Okay
Stinger A/A Missile: All Okay
H&K MP5A3 (US Marshal SOG): All Okay
H&K MP5 A3 SD (US Marshal SOG): All Okay
Colt 9mm SOG Smg: All Okay
Talon 9mm Smg SD: All Okay
CAR-15: All Okay
Colt M16A1: Uniform goes through butt of gun slightly; all else okay
Knight SR-15MWS: All Okay
MP5A5: All Okay
Steyer AUGP 9mm: Uniform goes through of gun slightly; all else okay
Steyer AUGP 5.56mm: All Okay
Steyer AUGP SD 5.56mm: All Okay
Armalite AR-10: muzzle flash appears at bottom of screen
Sig 550 Assault Rifle: All Okay
Sig 551 Carbine: All Okay
Sig 552 Commando: All Okay
DEA SR-16SD: All Okay
DEA 9mm Carbine: All Okay
H&K UMP 45 SD: All Okay
FN P90 Smg: All Okay
FN Fal 'shorty': All Okay
H&K MC51K: All Okay
US Army Land Warrior: All Okay
Ruger PC9 Carbine: All Okay
Tromix .458 Jack-Hammer: All Okay
ZM Weapon LR-300: All Okay
SF Support Weapon: All Okay
Wilson Combat TL-15: All Okay
Colt AR-15 'Shorty': All Okay
Colt AR-15 w/Masterkey: All Okay
FN F2000: All OKay
SPAS-12 Shotgun: All Okay
General Electric M-1: All Okay

Secondary Weapons

IMI Micro Uzi Smg: All okay
IMI Uzi Pistol: All Okay
Sig Arms P228: All Okay
Baretta Brigadier 96D: All Okay
H&K USP 40 UTL: All Okay
SigArms P229: All Okay
S&W 357 Magnum: All Okay
Sig Arms P226: All Okay
S&W 357 Magnum (US MArshals version): All Okay
Colt Delta Elite: All Okay
H&K USP 45 Match: All Okay
Glock 17: All Okay
Para-Ordance 16-40: All Okay
PAra-Ordance 10-45: All Okay
FN Five-SeveN Pistol: All Okay
Walter P99: All Okay
Wilson Combat KZ-45: All Okay
Wilson Combat CQB 45: All Okay
FN Forty Nine Pistol: All Okay
Bren 10mm Pistol: All Okay
Taurus 450t 45 Long Colt: All Okay
Magnum Research Lone Eagle: All Okay
Ingram MAC-11: All Okay
H&K SMG II: All Okay
Skorpion Vz 61: All Okay
12 ga Masterkey: All Okay
M-203 Attachment: All Okay
H&K M79 Grenade Launcher: All Okay
Bofor M136 AT-4: Blast from launch appears at bottom of screen. Not bad ideal though considering it is a missile launcher.

This is just single player. I do not have the time to testit in multiplayer.

Overall, everything looks great and ready to go. The problems posted are really not that important, but check them out if you wish. If you have any questions contact me at deltapooh@hotmail.com
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« Reply #18 on: October 05, 2001, 09:02:40 am »

Ejl2001:
The LW ret is a rangefinder so it cannot display bloom, but the rifle has the normal realistic accuracy it should. So you gotts think of it like a real rifle, as for the color changes, yeah, it's something that RS does with that ret, nothing we can do about that, but usually it returns to standard color when the wep is fired.

Deltapooh:
hmmm AT4 and AR10 muzzle flashes... I'll check into that. I spent some time aligning the flash on both weps, but maybe something go screwed up in the alignment numbers... I will prolly shorten up the mesh on those weps with the longer stocks, the model is based on the actual real rifle size, but RS is slightly disproportionate, so that can be easily fixed.

Good work guys
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« Reply #19 on: October 05, 2001, 11:46:53 am »

Another thing:
i tried the tac mod with the road ambush map, and the water turned BRIGHT pink Shocked and that skin that is listed b4 dea met didnt exist or something, so it showed the met skin (next 1 on the list after all) even tho it said i was wearing the other 1. this happened every time, on every map, while i had road ambush activated.

u know whats wrong? im willing to bet its the modded map, NOT the tac mod...
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