ANWR, Saved by 9/11?

[Typhy]

Before September 11th, President Bush and many others were pushing for Drilling for Oil in the Alaska National Wildlife Refuge, once 9/11 came along, I guess it gave them somthing else to think about. Anyway, what do you think about the ANWR Drilling measure in the first place? Do you think it's as lame as I do...?

[Casper]

Typhy aT first i thought it was realy stupid to drill there but then my dad told me what it's like and oil comes out of the ground it self and there are very little towns in that area so no one would go out and see them every day probly. and it will Create A lot of jobs for Alaskan and others to.

[Typhy]

Casper, Refer to the name: "Alaska ( Refers to the state or Alaska ), National ( Refers to that it's part of the Nation of America ), Wildlife ( refers to what lives there ) Refuge ( Refers to the fact that it's a place where wildlife can be safe from humans ).  Screw towns - Don't you think of the Animals? It's one of the few places left in the world where it's just for animals, not humans. They try and show how clean etc. it is, BS. Perhaps clean. however, when a bunch of oil stuff comes in and inhabbits the place, animals 'aint commin' back for a a while, It would screw up the whole ecosystem.

[Casper]

yeah i know what it means But HOW FUCKING HUGE IS IT?

Typhy Its so Big it wont Impact the animals there that much.

Yeah it is wrong to push in on that but it wont start an Ecolicgal melt down of the whole ANWR it's Just a small part.

But yeah it is wrong to push them to an evensmaller area.

[PsYcO aSsAsSiN]

I'd say drill the area up...the proposed drilling zone is about the size of a square mile and it would decrease our dependence on oil from the middle east and terrorist backing states like Iraq and Libya. You fucking environmentalists are all against it, but really, how much damage would drilling one measly square mile of a giant wildlife refuge do?

[Brain]

it's a fricking refuge
REFUGE

that meanst that the bill should have been laughtd out of congress before it even landed in the in box

[PsYcO aSsAsSiN]

Well, if you care that much about animals, I hope that you are satisfied that the money you pay at the pump is going to saddam, osama, and ghadaffi. Every time you hear of a suicide bomber in israel, some of your money is going to fund him. Every time you hear of any act of terror, you can bet that your money is helping to fund it.

I am glad that you value animals that much.

[Brain]

if they could provide me with a 99.9% guarentee that thewer would be no oil spillage, then i'd be fine with it

[Typhy]

Typical comments of someone who doesn't life in Alaska, and hasn't seen ANWR, Parts of ANWR are just like Danali ( however you spell that ), Just land and animals, Drilling, all of that sound, all of the equiptment, would cause major damage to the ecosystem. When animals are used to having land just to themselves, and then people come, it really screws things up, Take for example: Here in Juneau, righ near us is an island called Admrialty Island, When it was first used for logging, a study was done to see what results it had on animals, Clearing a section of it less than 15 acres, estimated killed over 850 animals, Personaly, I say if we dig that up just to not give our money to terrorists, then we're backing down to them. The idea is not to just avoid them, the idea is to deal with them. Spoken like a true Republican Sin.

[cookie]

I'm inclined to think that there actually isn't too much wildlife living in the proposed drilling area.. caribou, mosquitos... assorted and sundry animals. However it is nonetheless a refuge. On the other hand drilling in ANWR would provide a tremendous amount of oil (more than you think) and the US would be not so dependent on foreign oil sources as well as prices dropping and more jobs availible. I really don't know what to think...  I believe we are killing this beautiful place we've been given but also that we might need that oil to secure our future.  It's a shame to lay waste to one of the last places left untouched... but what can I say, we're only human.

[Typhy]

Oil Spillage 'aint the problem, the problem is all of the disruption that it would cause for the animals there.

[Casper]

YOU ARE SO RIGHT TYPHY

[Typhy]

Some of this makes you guys sound like: "Alaska's just a big mass of land up there that we own, who cares about it, just strip it's recources out and leave it. It actually wouldn't get that much oil.

[cookie]

It actually wouldn't get that much oil.

Terribly wrong. There isn't just a little oil down there, there is ALOT... like more than even a year. Look it up, do the math.

ANNNNND as another plus the US can export the oil and sell it too!! But thats not likely. Just a thought.  And whadya know Typhy, all this time i thought Alaska was one big chunk of ice. Just kidding  

[Typhy]

Terribly wrong. There isn't just a little oil down there, there is ALOT... like a year or more. Look it up, do the math.

Actually, there so far is no way to figure how much oil is down there without bringing in machines, which hasn't happened yet. People just think that there will be, I say that just the Title of it should say it all: Alaska National Wildlife Refuge.

[Casper]

Typhy they have had a small one there Before i belive and even if not it normaly does not come  out of the ground by it selfwhen there is olny a little bit and im tlaking with anything.

[Jeb]

it really won't hard the environment  much. even if i did kill a bear or two, who will it effect? no one lives anywere near there. Its not the bigest deal to drill there, because it won't harm the environment as drasticaly as its claimed to. Alot of the hype is because people are uninformed on the matter. Gaining some independence from the middle east should be a huge factor right now. Considering that bush is talking about replacing saddam hussein, we need to be independent oil wise.

[Casper]

Jeb if there were not  Many animals up there then no one would care But there are....  and what if there was an oil spill that would kill a lot of animals.

[PsYcO aSsAsSiN]

casper, there really isnt. I bet that you have not even visited the refuge and you fucking live in Alaska. I have visited the place and I live in California. There are almost no animals in the place...it is just so damn large that you, being ignorant, assume there is a lot. One square mile of drilling wont affect the environment drastically considering the enormous size of the place.

As for Typhy's arguement of noise...if noise affected them as greatly as you claim, why don't they ban cars or bushplane flights over the refuge since your precious animals are getting harmed?

Like I said earlier, if you would rather pay the terrorists instead, keep fighting for your precious animals. But next time a terrorist attack happens, I hope you have a guilty conscience.

[Casper]

PsYco, it is going to take more then 1 Square mile of land,

And what time of year did you come at?