Penelty Points and why I think they are a bad idea

Sorry guys, but since leaving SWAT I haven't really looked at the clan ladder, so I haven't been commenting as much as I should have on the penelty points that were being discussed..... Here's what I just posted for all to see:

Ok guys, look at the problem you are trying to solve and then ask if your solution makes sense....

The main problem I hear is that a clan (let's keep clans out of it to keep this simple and non-emotional) is in first place with many losses and it's because of them not CB'ing the good clans... ok, assuming that is correct, adding penelty points will only make a clan like that avoid more of the better clans... because they have more to lose.

It made your problem worse, not better.

Now, in the case of a challenge rule (which yes, we've talked about) that same clan would be forced to CB any clan that challenged them. If they are better, they will win, if not, they will lose and the other clans will climb the ladder over them. Problem solved.

All adding penelty points does is move them down faster. What good does that do? Have some sort of challenge rule that forces the clans up top to prove themselves in CB's where it counts.

Oh, and having penelty points would work against the challenge rule in some cases too... imagine a very good clan being Number 1 that many of the other clans are afraid of (it happens)... they wouldn't be challenged by any clans that didn't think they could really win, because they wouldn't want the penelty for the loss... so that top clan would still be picking it's own fights in many caases... remember.. the point is to get MORE CB's with more clans.... not less.