3rd person for CBs?

[Mr. Lothario]

Personally, I look around corners before I move in with HBS because people always jammer now (unlike the noob days when HBS could actually pick up Heartbeats)

    This is an excellent example of how 3rd person is mainly used to circumvent the gameplay. Your HBS no longer works because people are smart enough to use jammers, so you use 3rd person to bypass their jammers.

    Playing RS, especially in CBs, should be about skill. Using 3rd person to gain knowledge that you could not have normally (seeing around corners, over walls, etc.), especially because you gain that knowledge with no risk of being shot at, is at best extremely cheap and is at worst cheating.

    Yeah, it's part of the game. So is auto-aim. Auto-aim would reduce skill to the lowest common denominator, so no one allows it. I argue that 3rd person has much the same effect, yet people use it, some even while acknowledging that it's borderline cheating.

    Finally, why has reticule knock been brought up in this discussion as something unrealistic? Don't you think that if a big rifle bullet hit you in the chest, you'd probably get knocked around by it?

[Bondo]

Eh?  I never called it unrealistic, I know that it is, I just think it sucks.

[Cow]

I think we have finally kicked this horse enough and it it obvious that there is no real arguement for 3rd person.  So its just up to the admins to change the rules or not.  Mb we can have our own unoffocial poll.  EVen better Mauti can put the poll on the website.  Regaurdless i am saying no to 3rd person

[WeaSelFlinK]

If thrid person is going to be turned off then by all means please turn off the reticules as well since they're not realistic enough for Rogue Spear. ?

I'd say Viper's got a point. And besides, where would possibly use 3rd person? The proper usage of a HBS should do the job, don't you think? And if someone in the opposite team has a HBS jammer, that's just a risk I'd say you'd be willing to take... Well, at least I would.

[Cow]

i find it interesting that only members from KoS a really trying to defend 3rd person......

[KoS Ultimo]

Cow, you are starting to get on my nerves. First you say that I am the only one defending it so it must mean I "cheat with it". Then you say only "KoS" members are defending it. (Keep in mind that Lothario is in KoS, and he is for banning it)

Unlike many other players, the RS vets learned how to play the game of RS with no Bans. My whole way of playing is based around 3rd person. Not to camp, but certain area's of maps, I know people usually are, so I 3rd before I rush in to make sure it's not a trap. I learned how to play the game a certain way, and to take it away now would be unfair. You talk about how 3rd person is unfair to you ,think about how unfair it is to the players that love using it. You don't care... because you don't use it, simple as that. I bet if you actually leanred how to use it, you wouldn't be complaining. I guess it is too much trouble for you to hit that little F1 button, so you just wanna ban the whole thing, just cuz you don't use it.

Whats next, people wanna ban the PDW because it has too good of accuracy ? Give me a break man.... the whole idea of banning part of the game is ridiclous. The only thing that I can see result from this is people leaving RS, including myself. There are too amny good games out there, for me to be sitting back and let you mess up this one. This game is a great game, so don't fuck around with it, and ban half of the games features.

[Destructo]

I totally argee with Ult, and I will tell you why.

I was like you Cow, i hated 3rd person b/c I always thought it was gay and unfair. The reason I hated it, was becasue I was getting owned around simple corners.

So, unlike many of the lazy RS players, I actually set my shift key for 3rd, and I started to try to use it. I practiced and practiced, and I finally got used to it, and now it is a big part of my game.

For you to say, to ban it is bs because #1 if it wsa such a problem and so many protested it, UbiSoft would have taken it out of the game with the RS updates. But, lest i am mistaken, more then 70% of the players use it.

So i'm sorry, if you are bitter b/c u are getting smoked by ?a smarter way of seeing things, then I feel sorry for u, b/c you have no will to get any better.

And you talk about realistic? How many swat teams do you see break out of formation and go solo throughtout the map?

Instead of running around corners like a manic b/c u can read it on your hbs, why don't u slice the pie or even better prefire at busy areas in the map.

[Cow]

whoah whoah whoah wait dest no will to get better?  You are prolly still toting some PDW/AK47 running around thinking you the shit cause you can pop newbs with your near perfect automatic 3rd personing around corners.  While I on the other hand mastered a Skorp and now trying to master Pistols Only, not to mention that my clans next win puts us in the TOP 10 WITH pistols only.  Dest i push my self harder then anyone on GR as far as i am concerned so don't give me shit on the will to get better.  
I think 3rd person is a cheap way looking around corners instead of sticking your head out.  If everyone used it, everyone would be waiting till someone had the balls to step out and they would get popped.  Careful what you wish for dest, cause once everyone knows how to use it RS is gonna suck.  

[KoS Ultimo]

And whats the main reasons all the n00bs are gonna find out and abuse 3rd person, posts like this that you started, not us !

[Kos John Clark (aka Sbd)]

1st   a skilled person should be able to handle somone using 3rd person

2nd  3rd person is part of the game, so it should be kept on.

3rd  people say 3rd person is unrealistic, and I agree,  so I'm with ejo  on the thought that for a good realistic game, turn 3rd person off, all hb devices off, all weps on, retic knock on, and all noobs out  hehe    

[WeaSelFlinK]

...and all noobs out ?hehe ? ?

Is there not a hotkey then to throw yourself out?

[AK_Rap1d]

LoL Cow!  That didn't take long!  

Well, we now know who are some of the cheapos using it!

Damn Cow, you might even be causing them to quit cuz they feel at such a disadvantage without it!  Now I find THAT hilarious!

[Kos John Clark aka sbd]

lol beefy ouch hehe  
ya, i'm noobalishous

[Destructo]

rapid, stfu, u use it too

[WeaSelFlinK]

You wanna know what I find hilarious, Rapid?
I find hilarious the fact you're soon to become the only guy in Heaven with a freakin' wheelchair. And I'll personally make to it that that happens.

[KoS Ultimo]

Rapid's gonna make it to heaven ? wow

[Typhy]

I sence this turning into a Rapid bashing thread... Come on guys, let's keep this on the intended subject. Ultimo, I know a lot of people who do use 3nd person, and the last people that would ever use it are: Me, Rapid and Hitman, we're rushers, I can always tell that things are getting into Rapid bashing when all reason leaves the subject, As for the actual intended subject, come on, RS is based around being realistic, howerver, come on, it's a game, if you want realismn, go to some warehouse and start shooting eachother, come on, As was said before, 3nd person is part of the game, and part of being the best is knowing how to deal with it.

[Cow]

anyone willing to give pointers on knowing how to deal with it? as far as i am concerned anyone with a jammer and 3rd personing behind a corner is a freaking ghost.  So, if you pros know how to deal with 3rd person so well mb you guys can tell us what YOU do with your split second before the prefiring 3rd personer kills you.  Just wondering.
moo

[KoS Ultimo]

First of all, after you use 3rd person alot, you tend to anticipate where other 3rd person users would be. Therefore you bring some nades, and you nade the corners in which they could be standing. Thats one way to counter it. Another way is to flank them. When someone is in 3rd person they have no fucking aim, so if you get behind them, they are dead. I can't count how many times that has happened to me when I was using 3rd.

#rd person has its advantages, but it also has many disadvantage. But ofcourse, you guys tend to not look at those, making it seem like 3rd person is some almight cheat or some shit.

[Cow]

sigghhhh.... ok ty for the tips so when PO beats KoS for first place remember they were your tips