3rd person for CBs?

[Cow]

Bondo your right it is apart of the game but it is kind of like an unwritten rule, people know it is not fair so they will not use it ( try not to, never played mohaa, i know i wouldn't).  3rd person is the same way, it takes NO skill, it is an option but so is ret knock and show enemies.  Ulti it is a lot easier for you not to use then for us all to learn it, it can go both ways.  3rd person should be banned and i still haven't found a reasonable arguement against it not being used.

[Typhy]

I think that the reasonable arguement is the fact that it's part of the game, some people use it, get used to it. SA HB sencor is unrealistic, so should it be ban? Some people use 3nd person to their advantage, good for them. It's an option in the game that should be on.

[PsYcO aSsAsSiN]

Ult, I used 3rd person when necessary...you also bring up another point that I have always advocated -  BAN C4 FROM CB's!

[Typhy]

Hell no Sin! While often used as a camping weapon, C4 can be the most tactical weapon that there is, Setting traps with it, False HB Pucks, SA sencors etc. C4 is a great weapon. GOD BLESS THE C4!

[Cow]

typhy the fact that it is in the game does not mean it has to be used.  I would gladly sacrafice 3rd person and all of my HBS for a more realistic game.  Since it is part of the game so is Show enemies and Ret knock.  Get this too! they are all unrealistic and they are all options.  Sinec those things all have the same proporties why not turn all of them on.  3rd person can be used for strategy but a unrealistic one.  It is still a newbie crutch.

[PsYcO aSsAsSiN]

I know cow, my post that you see on this page was a response to Ult trying to attack my post on page two. As for game features, you forgot auto aim.

[Cow]

who decides the BL rules anyways?

[KoS Ultimo]

Is 3rd person unrealistic ? yes . Was Redstorm trying to make a completley realistic game ? no . Banning 3rd person after a year and a half of the game coming out in febuary 2001, would be not only ridiculous, but flat out stupid.

[xoclipse]

Ok fellas, this is the deal. Personally I will use 3rd person sometimes to look around corners before i go down a corridor or something, and i dont cheat with it, But i will tell you, i have seen countless people, for example, on Met, They will wait on one side of a hall, behind cover, wait till the opposing player is half way there, strafe out, and kill them. That is almost impossible to defend against. A strafe out with prefire, but, there is a way to defend agains it. If you use 3rd person, like if use hbs, you know, to defend against hbs, you use jammers, Right?

3rd is the same, learn it, and you will be able to work against it, be smart, think, would i be on that corner, throw a frag to be sure. But it is part of the game and it should stay, some people abuse it, some dont, but it should not be banned.

[.vooDoo.]

I too agree with Cow, if other didnt use 3rd I would never use it but it gives an advantage to a player so I encourage my team to use it to keep up with other clans, but I would like to see it banned
my 2cents
voods

[Bondo]

who decides the BL rules anyways?

Mauti, Elandrion, and I are the primary rules people but all the admins have say.

About auto-aim, I guess that would be part but really, I don't think that argument needs to be made...wouldn't be much point with auto-aim on.

[*DAMN Silent Killer]

I dont think autoaim should be alowed becasue its totaly cheap , its cheaper than 3rd person but i think 3rd person should stay

But autoaim is just kindov a lame excuse to get kills

i think it should not be alowed

SK

[Cow]

SK are you russian? Why have everyone else learn when only a hand full of people use it? And if 2 people are in the same hall hiding behind the corned then they are camping. and the last thing anyone needs is everyone using it so we have newbs jumping out behind corners.   The more people that know it the more mistakes that will be made with it and the less happy we will all be. Could you imagine a game where everyone is behind a corner and the first person to run out gets blasted.  Wtf is that? thats not a game thats cheap ass camping.  Ulti time has nothing to do with this.  Things change all the time.  THere is not rule that goes "Well a year and a half has passed that means we can't change the rules.".  Ulti since you are defending 3rd person so strongly i can only assume you are one of the people that use it to "cheat".  
moo

[AK_Rap1d]

Heh, I like the way this subject was brought up and we can all simply make it real easy on ourselves.  All we ALL have to do is simply always CB with 3rd Person off since we all agree we don't like it.  Then when you get into a CB where the opposite team specifically asks for it, you can know what to expect.  Hell, they shouldn't be using it in the first, so might as well let it be known if they are one of those cheap 3rd person bastards in the first.  Wow, a lot of 3rd Person Campers are going to be discovered now! Mwuahahahahahahahahah

[Cow]

Rapid those are probably some of the best words i have heard come out you mouth.  Good solution!

[Brain]

Normally, I use first person, but due to this debate I figured that I ?would try out 3rd person just for kicks.
The first map I tried was bunkers, and all i could say was wow. 3rd person view is WAYYYY to powerful. If I positioned the camera I could see the whole enemy front from behind one of the bunkers.

I think that 3rd preson should not be allowed in cb's unless both sides agree.

2 final thoughts, both for Rapid
1. We are not all in agreement. While Ultimo is the only out-spoken opposition to removing 3rd person, there may be others who have not weighed in on the issue yet.
2. Glad to see you got your account back.

[Typhy]

Personaly, I think that 3nd person should be off, however, opon request, it may be turned on, Good point Rapid, if someone asks for it on, you will know what to expect.

[??gT? Colin]

3rd person should be banned without question. It's way too powerful.

I wish people would use HBS less (or not at all). The way the game is played without it is much more intense.

Just because something is in the game doesn't mean it should be used (especcially in clan battles). Show enemies and auto-target are the same type of things.

Personally I would like it to be as realistic as possible. That way when 3 of my team are battling 3 of another team in Rogue Spear it's as close to 3 of my team and 3 of another team having a firefight in real life.

That means no HBS (it'll be different in Raven Shield but right now the little map? lol) and definetly no 3rd person.

Of course I'll never get everyone feeling this way. Too many people think that HBS actually exists.

[Cow]

colin there is a lot of talk about HBS but at least there is a visable and tangable counter to it unlike 3rd person so in some cases it is fair to have.  EVeryone now uses jammers and  HBS so they cancel each other out.  I don't mind it because it hardly matters now.

[kos.viper]

Thrid Person is apart of this game. I'm against "banning" it because it's a tactic, learn to deal with it. ?Usually only the real veterens learn how to use it on and off with first person as well. ?It's like what I did to Bondo last night in MOHAA, the lean while walking is a dodging tactic. ?When playing a video game you use anything and everything to win. ?

You guys have to get over the fact that thrid person is unfair or unreal. ?You guys keep talking about how unrealistic it is yet you're playing a video game which is unrealistic? ?If thrid person is going to be turned off then by all means please turn off the reticules as well since they're not realistic enough for Rogue Spear. ?