9 out of 10 French Agree....

[jn.loudnotes]

So, most of us here, including myself, wanted the bloody of every middleeasterner after 9/11.

Rebel, there's your fundamental misinterpretation.  Most of us advocating peaceful means and criticizing Bush's impetuous and poorly thought out war(s) completely disagree with you.  After 9.11 I was as appalled as anyone at the terrorist attacks, but my reaction was not to want the "bloody of every middleeasterner [sic]"

I'm on record on this forum in questioning (in Fall 2001) whether even the Afghanistan conflict was appropriate - after all, we killed far more civilians there and in Iraq than terrorists have killed here.  And frankly, I won't sit here and try to argue that the life of an innocent human being is any more important because of their geographic location.

Anyone remember Bush's brief mention last night, while discussing the sanctity of human life (in response to a question of whether US losses were justified) - he characterized deaths of any Iraqis - as "the enemy" - as insignificant.  I wish I could remember the exact quote - because that summed up a lot for me...

[*DAMN Bondo]

I too am on the record here in my reactions after 9/11 in wanting justice, but not vengence. There is a big difference between justice and vengence Rebel. Vengence is wrong, justice is right. Bush was vengeful. Personally, I'd rather have the UN control this country that anyone who simply wanted someone to pay without caring that those who pay were actually guilty. It is funny how our principles go out the window when it is us who are limited by them.

There was no intelligence that the terrorists responsible went to Iraq so that is another part of your statement that is ridiculous. The intelligence showed Iraq as one of the few countries in the region with no connection to Al Queda. Bush had no justification based on 9/11 anger to attack Iraq. Thus we have every right to say he did it wrong and that we would do it better in his place.

Anyway, what I would have done is utilized special forces to target terror cells in Afghanistan and elsewhere, I would have put pressure on the countries that harbor and support countries, but I would have relied on the UN when it comes to regime changes. The UN supported our action in Afghanistan, it is not completely unwilling to fight a war, it is just unwilling to fight a wrong war.

I would have gone to Afghanistan and I would have remained focused on Afghanistan and finished the job there and with the international cooperation it would succeed like the former Yugoslavia has.

On the other hand, if I was President, you can bet your ass I would be doing something about the known threat of terrorism and Al Queda prior to 9/11...possibly 9/11 would have never happened because I wasn't sitting on my ass on my ranch or playing golf instead of reading memos with headlines telling me Bin Laden will attack US with planes and not responding.

Sorry, but your little game of imagination doesn't remove any blame from Bush, it just shows what a fuck up he is.

[c| Spetsnaz.]

lol me spending too much time around GS.

Maybe you should stop sucking Kerry's dick.

You obviously have some underlying issues regarding male to male fellatio, but I don't want to get off topic. Judging by the vileness of your remarks, you feel very strongly about this election. What have you done to help get your candidate elected?

[BTs_GhostSniper]

lol me spending too much time around GS.
Maybe you should stop sucking Kerry's dick.

You obviously have some underlying issues regarding male to male fellatio, but I don't want to get off topic. Judging by the vileness of your remarks, you feel very strongly about this election. What have you done to help get your candidate elected?

lol Spets.  Crypt isn't even old enough to vote.  But I suppose he could start by putting up signs.[/size]

[c| Lone-Wolf]

Maybe you should stop sucking Kerry's dick.

Crypt, the Spam Drop Box is here for a reason.  In a thread lik this, post something constructive or otherwise close to resembling intelligence, or dont post at all. Its good to see threads like this where so far we've almost had something approximating to a sensible and level discussion.  

-Lone

[Maniac]

I'm from Texas BFG watch it . Cookie is too but she is a disgrace   Anyways spike what you need to realize is when Spetsnaz went off and said: "you have been around GS too long" it's not even about politics anymore that was just an insult. Don't bash anyone for an opinion you can argue it all you want. Opinions are like assholes everyone has one, and they all stink.

[c| Spetsnaz.]

Anyways spike what you need to realize is when Spetsnaz went off and said: "you have been around GS too long" it's not even about politics anymore that was just an insult.

I don't think GS would think it's an insult. Also you're off topic for posting about me being off topic, which clearly does not relate to the topic, anyways to get back on topic, 9 out of 10 French agree because they have a vested interest in who the most powerful man on earth is as does the entire free world.

[Cobra]

votes from other countries dont matter CAUSE ITS NOT THEIR PRESIDENT.

OK.  But, seeing as the international politics of the President of the United States are tremendously and directly germane to people outside of the US, couldn't you understand that some might have rather strong convictions on the matter?

too bad for u cause those of us who watch a real mans game do know.

...what?

So, most of us here, including myself, wanted the bloody of every middleeasterner after 9/11.

"Most of us here"...?!  Holy shit.  I can't imagine anyone but the most puerile and truculent countenancing such callous and reactionary behavior.

Dude, that's really fucked up.

Your intelligence tells you this cell has gone to Iraq for shelter.

Mmm...no.  Wrong.  Sorry.

The day after when i went to school, all those mother fucking middle eastern bastards pulled their kids out of school for fear they would get hurt, and they were DAMN FUCKING RIGHT. Good thing they didnt come back that day, they would have gotten FUCKED THE HELL UP.

You sound like you need a sedative, or something.  Ahm...how did these people (US citizens?) have anything to do with the 9/11 attacks, again?

[BFG]

The day after when i went to school, all those mother fucking middle eastern bastards pulled their kids out of school for fear they would get hurt, and they were DAMN FUCKING RIGHT. Good thing they didnt come back that day, they would have gotten FUCKED THE HELL UP.

You are seriously fucked up. In fact your behaviour appears quite simply racist and facist - you are blaming an entire race or religeon on somthing that has been done by a handfull of individuals and you seek revenge on women and children? Jesus your no better than the terrorists who carried out the attacks in the first place.

Just Disgusting. Perhaps your goverment should be a bit more concerned about dealing with people like you rather than going of to start wars in Iraq.

[Maniac]

Rebel as much as i dislike the terrorist in the middle east and want them brought down, that doesn't mean i am going to attack the ones here. Now that doesn't mean i don't get nervous on plane when someone with a towel on their head is sitting behind me.  

[crypt]

Jesus, just because I'm not old enough to vote (now I have to wait until I'm 21) and I'm not trying to get W elected doesn't take away my freedom of speech on the forums. Oh wait, this is the DAMN forums. It doesn't exist.

[Brutha]

(oh, and I have nothing against Europe...beautiful place, I've been there....I even married a girl from Austria--guess what?  She likes George Bush!)

BS, she's voting Bush because you are!

And Bondo, why the hell would we want to be like those countries? Do you not like where you live? If anyone in America thinks that way then get out!

Btw..what were you saying about freedom of speech?

[crypt]

I wasn't saying anything about that. Being a peasant on the forums, you can't take anything of what I say serious. The ! indicates more "just kiddingness" than anything. Plus the word if represents 2 situations anyway.

Whatever.

[Brutha]

You want to be funny...make sure ppl understand you.

[*DAMN Bondo]

Haha, or at least say something funny.

I know that can be brutal though Crypt, I was 2 months and a week too young to vote in 2000.

[BTs_GhostSniper]

I know that can be brutal though Crypt, I was 2 months and a week too young to vote in 2000.

Hmmm....if that is true then you are not Bucc, because Bucc is much older.  But, you could just be saying that to throw me off.  I shall take note of this...

[Cobra]

Hmm...you sound like Rapid.  I shall take note of this...

[BTs_GhostSniper]

Hmm...you sound like Rapid.  I shall take note of this...

Impossible....Rapid doesn't have the kind of money I have.  

[Cobra]

Ohhh, touche.  

[Cossack]

You could be just saying that to throw us off though.