BEWARE OF 21962

[Zomar]

be on the lookout for 21962.
the story...
one day zom@r was playing in a r6 game when all of a sudden to retards with names of rainbow six spelled oddly (one of which: 21962) . well they were big tkers and were cussing every five seconds. mostly then were giving me crap. so i blocked them naturaly. well later in several games 21962 IP joins under my name Zom@r. as i tryed to convince the host i was tthe real zomar he just repeates what i say / name changing. finaly after miss boots and rejoining for half an hour to both of us . he leaves. this continued into many other games. i say we should all block 21962

[SiGmA_X]

ty Zom@r! there is currently a problem with this TKing shit!

Romulus

[Zomar]

well i just went through more of this crap.. heres a convo we had

      Zom@r: u fool
tee diddily : ?
      Zom@r: having fun with the impersonations?
tee diddily : i just got on
tee diddily : want to play?
      Zom@r: no
tee diddily : lets play that paintball map
      Zom@r: no
tee diddily : why?
      Zom@r: do you use a m 16?
tee diddily : no
      Zom@r: right...
tee diddily : car-15
      Zom@r: T
      Zom@r: ?
tee diddily : car - 15
tee diddily : sometimes that g36
      Zom@r: i know what your up to
      Zom@r: u and wave started it
tee diddily : what
      Zom@r: he told me all about you
tee diddily : i hate wave
tee diddily : wave is mean
      Zom@r: fool
tee diddily : i dont have any problem with u
      Zom@r: then why are you iping into games
      Zom@r: changing your name to Zom@r and being a pain in the ass?
tee diddily : because u ignored me
tee diddily : all i want to do is play
tee diddily : but i couldnt play
tee diddily : cuz of u
      Zom@r: under my name!?
tee diddily : so u might change back
tee diddily : but it didnt work
      Zom@r: what!?
tee diddily : so i will stop
      Zom@r: u better
tee diddily : as long as u unignore and let me play games
      Zom@r: i am sick and tierd of you
tee diddily : deal?
      Zom@r: no.. i wont.. il just get you banned instead
tee diddily : fine
tee diddily : do it the hard way
      Zom@r: also..
tee diddily : u want people to boot u from games?
      Zom@r: u do know
tee diddily : i will give u a bad name
tee diddily : nobody will like u
      Zom@r: using the ip logger is illeagle
tee diddily : no its not
tee diddily : sorry
      Zom@r: yes it is
tee diddily : no dummy
tee diddily : why do they have the IP join on R^ moron
      Zom@r: fine play that wau
      Zom@r: its a different thing =P
tee diddily : no
tee diddily : its not
tee diddily : everyone does it anyways
tee diddily : it helps with not much lag
tee diddily : for me anyways
tee diddily : lol
tee diddily : how dumb
      Zom@r: ...?
tee diddily : nobody's going to listen to u
tee diddily : they cant do athing
      Zom@r: they...
      Zom@r: they...
tee diddily : ya, they
      Zom@r: ill show they
tee diddily : u really need a life buddy
tee diddily : all this fuss over a game?
tee diddily : how old are u?
      Zom@r: yes!
      Zom@r: same to u
      Zom@r: only a child would do this.
tee diddily : excuse me, but i just wanted to play the game
tee diddily : but noooo
      Zom@r: i am logging this chat you know
tee diddily : why did u block me anyways?
      Zom@r: because u and wave went into a game and acted like fools tking and cussing
      Zom@r: then u are rating on me
tee diddily : well anyways i give up on u, and im sorry i come on gr to play games.
      Zom@r: yes..
      Zom@r: not to trash them!

[Zomar]

he keeps changing his name now =P 21962

[jn.loudnotes]

...forgive me for being only a child, but I must say that that conversation might as well have been written in Greek for all I understood of it.......

mind explaining Zom@r?

[Grifter]

Zomar,
Regardless of your conversation with the pleeb... I can't stand this crap.  I've seen way too many assholes pretending to be someone they aren't on GR lately.... trying to trash other people's rep's.

I'm for just banning these createns from our games... they obviously are not worth talking to (especially after reading your transcript).  I for one will just ignore / ban 2192 from my GR account.  

This just pisses me off!

[Zomar]

loud he mainly said. i dont give a (&*@#(* what you think ill just try to wreak you. and i just contered every statement he made lol

[[SAC] S K I P P Y]

Zom@r,
I went through the same shit recently, you just have to ignore them. This guy was really fucking me up, and a few members in my clan. There was actually 2 of them working together, I didn't trip on it though. They stopped and got bored, and perhaps grew up a little.
Tell people about it, and believe me it will go away. I have a  member in my clan, (no names) and all he does is police people and actually has a file of Id's, names, name changes, IP's and such over the last year, and now it's a huge data base.lol This is possibly the best thing you can do. We know of a couple of people who like to change names, and replace people in Clan battle's even...Cheap Cheap Anyway if you want to know exactly who's doing what in GameRanger start writing down the Id numbers and use your so called illegal Ip Logger to just ping someone and right down the IP #. You don't have to use it as an illegal tool all the time. heh... I will look this guy up for you and see if we have him on file
Skippy

[Grifter]

Skippy,
keeping a log of their ID's is a good idea.  I've scribbled down a few since the last time I had to reset my GR prefs and lost the few dumbass that were on my ignore list.

As for just ignoring them..... in the sense of the GR ignore option, I agree (which ban's them from your hosted games and messaging you).  But borrowing somone's identity to trash their rep is wrong, just plain wrong.... I watched a couple guys do this to SWAT Matt, ICE Gladiator, CON Spanks and a few other guys that I don't know in one evening (in a game I was in no less).  I remarked about this in a different thread.

So I also advocate taking more proactive actions (i.e. when I see a well known member calling out a pretender wannabe, I'll take his word and ignore him as well).  These guys are probably some lonely kids, that feel bad because they suck and have no friends (sounds like Peekay).  I don't want to debate them, I just want to make sure they aren't effective in their efforts to cause havock with some clan members.  Think about it, someone going into games with your name... tk'ing, being abusive, acting like a child... sure, people that know you aren't going to believe it's you.... but how many others out there wouldn't know it wasn't.  Great way to get along and have fun gamming (required sarcasm for Loudnotes... heh)

[*DAMN Postal Worker]

Well, Alright then...I suppose I shall block this particular character.  Not like he'd do anything to me anyway.  I'm not too well known on GR.  lol

[jn.wrath]

Heh.. I know the guy, account ID 21962, he used to be stalking me.

Now we're on friendly terms...

Zomar, it isn't illegal to use ICMP Logger.

[Zomar]

I know that wrath. i just wanted to scare him. you are not suppose to use that stuff though since it is considered a hacking tool.  

[SiX_Mr.Buffy]

While we are on the topic of fucking lamers, I may as well post one up.  I am posting this one up because it involves SiX....if I were to post all the other lamers I know of, then well, I'm too lazy to do so.  If you do a find on (SiX) you will notice that account ID 54199 is (SiX) Adun.  That is not the real Adun, the real Adun does not own a mac anymore, for sure, and even if he did, the location is all wrong.
-Buffy

[Zomar]

god damnit!!! now his account reads...

Acount ID: 21962
Nickname: |S.S.T.| Pain
Real name: zomar@mediaone.com  <---- my email is zomar@mediaone.net!!!!!!!!!!!!

recently i have even be accused as being him...... errrr block this fool.... kill him

[Black Sheep]

i just went to the gr website and looked for searched for him using his acount number,:
Account ID:      21962
Nickname:      edgar
Real name:      Jared from Subway
Last login:      Fri, Jul 27, 2001, 12:58 AM, EST
Last logout:      Fri, Jul 27, 2001, 2:03 AM, EST

jared lost a lot of weight, and has gotten preety mouthy!

[SiGmA_X]

Grif: Being you are the resident computer protection genuis, how do i stop ppl that i ignore to IP into my game? as you know, i have a LinkSys Router/Firewall... please advise... maybe i can use their IP finder to block them from my computer?

Also, what is this IP Finder thing? I have heard of it befor but what is it? how do you use it? Please explane...

Romulus

[Grifter]

I'm no genius, that's for sure.

I just know a few things, and have other ideas.  

The only way I know to truely block someone from entering your game is to use the password function built into RS (not GR).

Now, if they are using a static IP (or, if you don't care that they will get past this very quickly) you can use ICMP logger to get their IP address (usually, this doesn't work with some peoples computer, like when they tell netbarrier to not allow it) and simply ban that IP address for a day in your firewall.  

If you want to do it right, just use the RS password feature.  It's a small pain, but you'll get the exact result you want.

[jn.loudnotes]

actually, there's an even easier way to completely prevent IP joiners....

In your r6 or rs options, just change your "join" port to something other than the default 2346.  If people don't know your new port, they won't be able to to join!

..but that's really annoying....

[jn.blackhand]

Grift: A few quick questions.

Wouldn't using a password block everyone from joining except those who knew the password?

How on Earth would you host a game and get people to join?

If you message a bunch of people first and get them to join, what happens when people start leaving?

Though the password function and your idea is nice, it doesn't seem feasible for anything outside of CBs and team practices.

[Grifter]

Blackhand,

You've hit on the "pain in the ass" area of the solution.  Yeah, you tell people the password, but once the game breaks up, you pretty much have to start over.  Or, if just your buddy's know the password that you always use (we have one that all SWAT use) then you'll always be able to join.  But you are right.  The solution is a pain, so should be used only when someone else is being more of a pain (and won't stay away).  

Loud.... if you are using GR, won't it tell RS (or R6) what port to use?  I know that RS doesn't use 2346 for RS (it uses a higher number).  But in effect, Password or changing ports does the same thing (and both through RS, not GR).  And both have the same problems.