CIA Romulus?

[Ace]

vapor, you suck at filing... that goes under "Short Posts From Wrath"

[?{RiP}? Vapor]

Haha, thx for the help there Ace. I knew there was another file it fit better.

[jn.loudnotes]

I'm not exactly a pacifist, but I am highly cynical about everything and I try to give everything a lot of thought. ?So I would like to ask, am I the only one who thinks

Osama bin Laden deserves a fair trial


After all we may have every reason to think him perfectly guilty, and any trial he might have could be no more than a political sham, but it is an important sham. ?If we are to truly represent our own ideals and hopes expressed in the Constitution, shouldn't we adhere to them? ?As I mentioned in my terrorism debate thread, are we so blinded by rage and a need to blame, that we will only try people in the court of public opinion? ?Timothy McVeigh had rights....why don't these bastards?


yes, I say bastards because if they are guilty they are truly the scum of the earth, but shouldn't we make absolutely certain?

[jn.blackhand]

Loud if we capture him, he'll get a trial. If we kill him, he'll get piss and grafiti all over his grave.

[?{RiP}? Vapor]

Loud, like blackie said, if we do capture him he will get a trial. But what makes you think he will want that to happen. He isn't going to leave with out a fight, and in which we all know who would be the victor of that fight. I don't just think that he would give up and we could take him back to America and give him a trial.

Face it, he isn't going to just let us take him. He is going to get all the terrorist and what not to try to fight us, and when we defeat him, he will not be standing.

[Grifter]

Loud,
If it was just about the WTC (if you can say "just" there without choking), then I'd say he is due a fair trial.

In the case of Bin Laden, he's admitted responsibility for killing Americans in many other terrorist actions.  So, based upon all those crimes.... I wont exactly mourn the loss to justice if he doesn't make it to trial.  I'm not saying that my feelings here are correct, because they flat out are not.  But I'm not perfect, nor that big of a person.  Cheers to you for being a better person them me on this point (meant wholeheartedly, with no sarcasim).  I respect anyone that presents an intelligent opinion, more so when it goes against popular opinion, and even more so when I think it's the "right" thing to do (but I've never been accused of always doing the right thing)

[?{RiP}? Vapor]

I also heard that America gets most of it's cocaine from Afgahnastan. And they said that if F.B.I. were to investigate, that it would link it back to Bin Laden. So he isn't just responsible for one act on America.

[jn.loudnotes]

heck I don't think that I'm really a better person and I don't know that I think he does deserve a trial.  However, I believe that it is the duty of our nation to give him one, even it be in absentia, to at least make a show of our ideals of liberty and human rights, as we are clearly planning to disregard many people's rights in our upcoming "war"

[Black Sheep]

maybe this is a bit harsh, but in my eyes terrorists shouldnt have rights.
specialy not the right that Americans have. if the hate and attack America, then they certainly dont have the right to trail that America feels is such an improtant right. some times you just gotta send in a guy with a psg-1 to get the job done...

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