IRAB bombing-WTF!-WW3?

[Precious_Roy]

Bander, even if others disagree with what you said, I don't.  Aside from a couple innapropriate comments, most of which Ace already pointed out, you were 100% right.

Grifter, believing to be one of the persons who would "get it", as in understand your gripes with bander, I'd like you to inform me what said disagreements are. You don't have to post em, just email em to me, or come online once in a while.

Ace, you say that that bashing those who harbor "Osama fucking bin ladin" is ok.  I'm not going to agree or disagree, I suppose that is mostly a personal call.  

I will say this though:

Under international law, proven terrorist Osama Bin Ladin is a war criminal, for comiting crimes against humanity. He is being protected and sheltered by the Afgans.

Under international law, former secretary of state Henry Kissenger and former secretary of defense Robert McNamara are war criminals, for comiting crimes against humanity. They are being protected and sheltered by the Americans.

Ace, it's just something to think about.



(For all those who are a little slow, yes I am comparing former cabinet members to the most vile and hated terrorist in the world)

[postmaster]

I thought a World War was a war that dealt with all the continents (besides Antartica).

As with Kissenger and McNamara...you may think what they did makes them war criminals but The Hague has not brought any indictments against them like they have with bin Laden so they technically are not war criminals. So in turn, the U.S. is "not harboring" them.

"FUCK ALL RELIGIONS" or something like that sounds very immature and unappropriate to me. Shame on you *DAMN Bander

[6.Dr.FaSsSt..qc]

Hey postmaster...who the fuck are you, anyways...??

[Bander from *DAMN]

Heyas -

greetings to ace on first place and thanks for your post man. i know u are one of the "ugliest" americans but i also know u try to make your own mind on things too - so i consider u as pretty un-ugly dude , respect.

Before i will answer that ASS?s post which is a comparson of mental disrupted garbage for my taste i want to explain what i mean when i actually say: The Moslems, Jews and Cristian Reliogious Leaders in Far East are mostly those who make people upset there "cuz the holy finger of our muslim phrophet is burried there, we must get that territory - or "oh man the holy ribs of our holy rabbi are on the temple-hill - people go fight for them!" or "We are religious Protestants so we demand that your chatolic kids dont go to school anymore here - or we drop bombs on em" - and so on and so on ...

where are all this self proclaimed "holy-men" really? If the mullahs, priests and rabbis in far east would be honest and good people who live to all their 3 religions we would NOT have to worrie about peace there. But instead of meeting all together (the religious leaders there) they all run their own (power possessed) holy wars there. THATs why i meant "Religions u can go to hell". I mean the "officials" of that world religions. They showed themselves as unable to follow even the basic rules of their own religions (u shall not kill...). So i hope now u understand better what i mean.

now i will answer to that ass?s and that other morons post ...

[Ace]

Mort, I think that you are blowing this out of proportion. I would really like you to further explain how their actions (I'm assuming you are talking about their roles in 'Nam) make them war criminals. In that case, Kennedy and LBJ were war criminals too.

Fassst, who cares who he is, he is making good points.

[Bander 2.]

A short break for postmaster:

I really dont care what u think a "real" world war is. But when there is war on most places on earth, almost on all continents and even within our brains, hearths and own mothercountries - i CALL this a world war.

And believe me (i am still hoping i am totally wrong, but the chanches are around 5% i fear): If its coming it will hit you too, in your own house and not only the people u will see dying on TV everywhere. It must be no bomb or other shit - but when the world drops into a recession we will be "victims" too - actually we face the same "singns and clouds of war" like before the 1. and 2. world war. And if u study history and read what politicans said before the outbreaks of WW1 and 2 u will read same shit like they say today:

New World Order
The Mother of all wars
The one War that will end all others
Reaching 1000 years of peace (actually we only demand 100 years)
The state of evil

etc. etc. etc.

unfornantely politicans are way to stupid to imagine new ways of talking crap - so this is why its always the same i think ...

[Bander 3.]

Okay Ass - now to my response on your amazing post there: (i will start on the top and work me down till im on the bottom of the shit u left there)


wow bander, this is coming from a Euro who is all talk and no action. (referring to NATO members being pussies except the Brits...all talk and no action)


(response):
Mr. Idiot - listen and learn: 1.: Once upon a time some euros decided to bring up some action and conquered america (maybe u already heared rumors about). 2.: In newer times some other euro-pussies set up this web site to be a platform for an international community to excange their minds and get in touch eith each other. If those wouldnt have set up some action u could not even post your clever posts here. Might we be Pussies for some of u cuz we thrust words and negotations more than sending troops and risking their and others lives. I must admit that western-europe is AS guilty as the U.S. for robbing out and surpressing the 3rd world and other poor countries - and why using expensive brute force when u can reach your goals with some cheap "talks" instead? U are the biggest pussie here (even when u might not have seen a real one that far u seem to know what it is).


The holy war thing was in response to SBD's post about the Pope getting killed. I know that Afghanistan is in Central Asia, not Arabia. And, I was not "crying for a holy war." Merely meaning that even though Afghanistan is not densely populated with Arabs, the people (terrorists that we are after) they harbor ARE arabs (Osama Bin Laden and the Al Qaeda Group). Read up on what everyone says before making stupid ass comments.


(response):
Mr. idiot: Yes - u managed to post one sentence of truth - the last one of these above. Obey your own "wise" statements mr. clever. So after your argumentation: There was one WTC Terrorist coming from Tunesia, anothers from Algeria & Maroc, Their Bosses are Saudis, u saw palestinians cheering, saddam made some hostile statements again, egypt is suspected cuz "their pilots are known to be good" (wow heavy suspecious), palestinians are "natural born" terrorists, russia is happy that we now see that "Checenians" arent freedom fighters but terrorists too, iran was calm last times but who cares: once a terrorist always a terrorist (same with ghaddaffi) - so this is your list of enemies so far: Tunesia, Algeria, Marrocco, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, (non existing) Palestina, Iran, irak, egypt (maybe - how dare they to have good pilots. its their own fault.) - and if u check it out: there is no Afghan among these. so if u attack afghan people and also demand them to be nuked u should also exterminate all those other countries where the "active" and "executive" terrorists too (following your argumentation)


Funny thing though. Watch the FUCKING NEWS. Pakistani people are complying with us fully. Look at what their military is doing right now...they sealed the god damn border. Plus, the Pakistani's wont mind us being there because the U.S. has agreed to help them settle the Kashmir dispute and to lift sanctions which are plaguing the people of an already poor nation.


(response):
U defenitely shouldnt mix up your cartoon channels with real news for adults u moron: Pakistan is your allie? LOL! The Taliban Movement COMES from Pakistan (it was BORN there), Pakistan is one of the 3 countries worldwide who accepted the Taliban as official afghan goverment, their secret service is the MAIN supporter of the Taliban (Fuel, Ammo, Intelligence), The Taliban all got trained in Pakistan + Most Taliban are Pakistani. Their corrupt and weak goverment can promise what it wants (i guess they have their parcels packed and will leave pakistan as soon as poss too now) - if their people see the first U.S. soldiers landing there they will be overthrown and then we have the REAL mess there. Those Taliban dont have to INVADE Pakistan in case they support the U.S. on an attack on Afghanistan cuz they are ALREADY there. Important: U will help them to solve the Kashmir conflict? Hahahaha - unbelieveable! Did Spielberg tell u this? Yeah - during the 3. world war we will solve this. lol.

[Bander 4.]

NO, I am not a blood hungry American. I am a sensible American who thinks that the only way to stop him is to kill him. I do not wish death on all but some innocents will die-as they have in every war ever fought in the history of this planet.


(response):
Yes u are not an blood hungry american - u are a stupid bloodthirsty warmonger who doesnt even deserve to call himself an "american" for my taste.  "... I do not wish death on all but some innocents will die-as they have in every war ever fought in the history of this planet." - THIS statement could be excatly the words given to those damn Terrorists by their Bosses before they went of to their work of destruction. U are a GODDAMN idiot Ass! Its just unbelieveable what crap a single ape like u can talk in one post! if america wouldnt be inhabitated by such morons like u it would be some BIG steps closer to real GREATNESS!


 Also - DUMBASS - the definition of a World War is war that encompasses all hemispheres of the world. Look up definitions and be more smart before calling people a dumbass.


(response):
LoL - so thats your definition. Go and argue with your mongo-friends about their opinion in this - i think u never took a look on "all hemispheres of this world"  lately, otherwise u wouldnt call this as an arguement for u. The war-machinery is actually boosting up that whole conflict after that terror strikes to an "war of the cultures" and u still talk such crap??? This might get worser than WW1 + 2 together. But u proably just know what war means from some "patriotic" war-movies from hollywood (the good guys always win close to the end, there is no blood if someone gets shot, they just fall down and are death, all wars are over after 90 to 120 minutes, the U.S. always win, the enemy is always evil and too stupid to seek cover in firefights, also only the good guys have real bullets the enemy has "training" ammonition etc etc - this  is  H o l l y w o o d! pure fiction - a real war is CRUEL! check it!)


-No offense should be taken personally by Europeans unless you personally agree with what your gov't is doing.-


(response):
too late u little pantypisser: maybe u find it ok to insult me in these times cuz i am "the enemy" but to call also all of us Euros (except brits) as Pussies made yourself to the legetime bearer of the title "DUMBASS" from now, wich is only given to the most professional morons on this forums. personal statement: My goverment can do what it wants i still make my own opinion u braindead robot. No offence too Assassin: U are an idiot.

Final Cut:
My last days on Gameranger (Nick Names and Host names):

Kill Bin Laden and Afghans (R6 Host)
Nuke Afghanistan (Nick Name)
Fucking Arabs go to hell (Game Name Ultima 3)
Killing all Afghans (Nickname)
Afganistan will die (Game Host for Quake)
Moslems are all Terrorists (Host name)

Guess people like Assassin have lotta people in GR who think as he does. They basically make me sick. They made me sick before the WTC drama and now they annoy me even more. Once they where called racists but today they hide behind the image of "patriots".

Greetings all my friends who show me that im still one of them when i  play aside them on GR: Americans, Euros, Asians, Chinese?s - i dunno.

I bet if young Afghans would have Computers and Internet Connections we would be able to call many of em as good friends too here. Of course only those of us who are one step ahead in mind compared to racist slurs and mongobrains like ass and comparsion.

Good bless not only the U.S. - God bless all likeable people on this planet

greetings and good luck  my friends

[Bander - the Snatcher]

by the way: those different type styles on this board work as less for me as assassins brain works for him.

so dont get confused: there is always what assassin posted and my response to that crap. Easy for not-assassins LOL.

greets - i am outtahere (if i see fukcing bin laden somewhere i bring him over to u. You can keep ur money then (reward) and spend it to the poor people too - just gimme a map where i find that swine. Make a big "X" where he is

[Last Words (for today)]

Btw.:

i personally dont give a shit on so called "proof" or indictments coming from CIA, FBI or any other secret service of a western country where we will never SEE those "proofs". Those proovs just exist in the media maybe, cuz no one would step up to the FBI and say: "Okay good work FBI - pls show me the proof." - And i bet we will never have a "alive" Bin Laden speaking about his supporters in a trial - cuz THIS would be not cool for many western goverments.

PERSONALLY: I want to see Bin Laden Death. Our Tajik traditions say hes doomed for killing our Commander Massood! And cuz there is NO one else who could have wished Massoods Death i KNOW for sure (as most afghans) that those stinky Taliban and their fukcing Saudi-Dude are behind this.
SO ONCE MORE: I support any operations against the Taliban Militia done on GROUND with air support in cooperation with local afghan Anti-Taliban Mudjaheddin who ALREADY offered the U.S. their full support after the murder of their leader. We (the North Alliance) have set up 15.000 war-experienced (20years) fighters ready for combied operations against the Taliban. Hope bush will take this option wich would help the U.S. to be not seen as another invader (after the brits and the russians) by the regular afghan people. But if they feel to be bombed out for having done nothing (Taliban are forbidding any TV, radio and stuff - they get not news like we are used too here) they will start to defence themselves. Afghans have nothing left than bloody and cruel memories on one drame after the other - and their "proud". So if u wanna go there and take their proud also they will fight with claws and teeth if it must be. And i would understand this totally.

regards

[Ace]

Bander is pretty much right, but there is one little exception

We have pretty much bullied Pakistan into being our little bitch. Last time I checked, they had agreed to let us fly over their airspace if we feel like (obviously for any attack on afghanistan) also, they might be letting us land troops if we huff and puff enough

[Commander Bander]

Hello Ace dude -

I just dont trust any Taliban?s Words. And i dont thrust those Pakistani goverment. (Their "ruler" overthrowned the last goverment to replace it - military - and in pakistan its really common to remove goverments that way). I am just HEAVY worried about the "cleverness" of the planners of any military operation in that region.
Just remember: The (cursed) Taliban Movement has his roots and strongholds in Pakistan.
(a friend of mine is pakistani {sulfi} - and i will not let this get personal between "regular" pakistani people and myself - GRRRRR its hard cuz pakistan harmed afghanistan very much already by rising those Talibans and supporting them against our resistance).

I hope the International-Operation Corps will establish a cooperation with the "north allaince" (anti-taliban fraction, the troops of now assassinated commander massood). I heared now it is planned to use special ground forces for "in & out" operations (good!) and i swear: if those units would side with the "north alliancers" they would be awesome against any taliban resistance (AND this would show the afghan people - WE and the americans have started to fight against the Taliban together - instead of being invaded by international troops).

There is still the chance that Bush will surprise us all with a real good and fair plan to answer that terror! I just hope "Borderless Justice" will not end in a "War without Borders".

Send the "role models" of SIX, *DAMN and SEALS there, wish em luck and sucess and all this could be solved without a massive escalation. Lets not answer Terror with Terror.

Hey - yesterday they interviewed New Yorker People on what they think about "venegance". And i was very impressed that exactly those people who got hit so bad seem to be those with the wise-opinions. I was really (positive) surprised by those NYers they interviewed and now they dont only have my blessings but also my honest respect!

[?{RiP}? Vapor]

Once again, I have no idea about what has been going on in this thread, since every tiem I check it there are 20 more post to read... and I'm just lazy to read them all. So I just wanted to be the 72nd post  

[Banderv cfd]

Hmmmm - i was reading aces posts again and found out hes a moron and i understood some things he said wrong. Now i figured out: Ace is an asshole too.

And yeah - insead of continue that discussion HERE its much easier for u hysterical-warheads to start a new thread where u can continue to demand "bombs", "nukes" or any other bullshit after ur taste.

U crackheads listen: A real WAR remains people DEAD, scattered, raped, starved, burned to ashes, frozed to death, crippled and so on! And at last i DONT make any diff between stupid nationalitys or races. a dead human IS a dead human. But most of u morons seem to think if they are at war and they DIE, they just have to wait on the HOST to start their game again.

I already had my time at the austrian army: and one thing i learned for sure there: WAR isnt a thing u can get under control. To die or survive in war is like a russian roulette. Since my army time i really know that (infra-red rifle, field-maneuvers).

but its senceless to discuss with most of u here. the only thing u seem to be interested is to know where the next burger king is.

greets

[Ace]

Bander, kiss my ass. I think I have a pretty fucking good idea of what war is. War is my uncle going off to a foreign land 30 years ago, not knowing whether he would ever see his family again. War is my grandfather going to Japan 60 years ago, bring his family to live in an occupied nation. War is bastards taking planes and flying them into my country's symbols of freedom and strength. I notice that whenever Afghanistan is brought up, we get four full posts from you ranting about the sanctity of innocent lives, but you only give us a few standard lines about "I'm sorry for what happened to my American friends". If all life is equal, shouldn't your statements be too??

Also, quit fucking stereotyping Americans you ignorant piece of shit. If we are such fat, lazy slobs as you say, why the fuck do we have the best athletics in the world for almost every sport. Hell, my fellow Trojans have more Olympic medals than most nations. You're so fucking hypocritical because right after that, you turn around and yell at other people for stereotyping Afghans. For the record, I have only stereotyped the followers of Bin Laden and the Taliban as evil, a fair assumption. Don't try to argue otherwise.

[Bander III.]

Ace: If u are such an awesome american athlete go and kiss your ass yourself.

"I'm sorry for what happened to my American friends"
what else do u want??? at last i am sorry for the american people wo suffered. When i look at you and guys like u: You dont even menton about people that are NOT americans.

And to make it clear: In my eyes YOU are a steriotypic nationalist! And blind nationalism is another "evil" thing on this planet (at last some - as u always say: lame - euros learned from history).

So your ancients are heroes! kewl. What would your uncle / grandpa have done when he would have been living on another continent or country? He would just have waved another "flag" and have followed another "leader" into the same war. But i guess this is something u cant imagine cuz u really think u are better than other humans and therefore god made u to be born as american. U make me sick, sick, sick, sick!

Btw.: There are MANY sports where americans suck (without prooving america sucks at all). But as another "stereotypic" about (many) american u simply ignore all sports where u cant compare yourself (like winter olympics). No one is interested into "American" Football here except of some freaks. (Much violence, less sport appeal). And people like u will ALWAYs be the loosers when it comes to "Brain Sports".

U also ignore that i said: My relatives live in america too and get daily abused on street by nationalist fukcers like u actually. Nice - go and play cards with YOUR friends from the very american Klu-Klux Clan, ur nazi-militias (michigan) and all of those dirthbags who can hide their racial face behind american patriotism now! If i would be american i would FORBID those idiots to even touch the union jack! Ace i still remember all your anti-european posts here and so its really no wonder that u spill dirth about non-americans in this brainless way again. Take your patriotism and clean your ass with that. Give ME a space shuttle and will i leave all u morons here alone - bet on that. The thing that i learned after all that madness started (WTC) is this: I always thought at minimum 93% of the world populations are morons but i was wrong - it must be 99,9%!

And i am surprised: Actually the american GOVERMENT is acting way smarter than u american war-heads talk and "demand" here. Maybe i was wrong and Bush will not overreact. We will see. But i am deeply dissapointed about many of my "dudes" from GR and their respectless statements - not only towards afghan civilians but also about "an american counts more than another person from another culture/country.

My point is: Ace is a prototype of an american nationalist. He doesnt really care or respect other country people or their way of live. He just compares "his bright american" nation to others - and then hes marking out everything where america is "better". But its funny that exactly people like him who dont care much about the "outside world" demand to be "world police".
If Ace would come into my flat here and talk such shit about me, europe, austria or asia or afghanistan i would bash him into his face and kick him out there too.
Its people like ace and other "brute posers" who have nothing to offer than brute power, surpressions and non-respect to the rest of the world who prevent the strong nation of the U.S.A. from becoming a real role-model for this whole planet. This is my opinion (again) and if u dont like it send me some tanks and claim infinite justice. Im just a lousy afghan (and half austrian) so i am awaiting "the herrenrasse" to judge over me. lol. u clowns ...

[Ace]

Ancient? I see my uncle in two days. Other than a little gray hair, he is still kicking ass and in great health. You kinda need to be when you are a firefighter and other people's lives depend on you. And no Bander, who says they would be waving another flag if they were born in a different country. My other grandfather was raised in Italy. He had an American flag draped over his coffin at his funeral for some limited military service.

Hahaha, don't even try to argue against American athletic dominance. With the exception of soccer, we excel at nearly every sport imaginable. Hell, we send our college kids to shit kick other countries pro's in sports like baseball and basketball. Winter Olympics? We are third in all time total medals. I didn't even bother checking the Summer Olympics because we dominate them every single time. Brain sports? What sports would you consider Brain sports? I'm betting that no matter what you come up with, we excel. Baseball requires a lot of intelligence, and damn we dominate that pretty thoroughly.

[Bandersnatch]

As usually u reply with substanceless rethoric and ignore what i replyd in the detail. Aces Philosophy:
What i refuse to see isnt there.

And im not going to insult people who didnt insult me before - but if your grandpa is like u desribed him (1000 years stoneage - make sure there will be another 1000) hes as stupid as u.

hey - its almost impossible to answer in an intelligent way on your "me, me, me, best, best, best" brabbelings.
Its annoying, stereotypic and totally not from any interest.

[jn.blackhand]

"But i am deeply dissapointed about many of my "dudes" from GR and their respectless statements - not only towards afghan civilians but also about "an american counts more than another person from another culture/country."

Yay for hypocrisy. Maybe you should look at your own statements. You're constantly making disrespectful comments about Americans.

[Ace]

Bander, my grandfather did not make that comment (He was raised in the South, so we aren't going to get into a few of the colorful expressions he learned) That was my uncle. Not the firefighter, but the one who was with clients and friends from the PENTAGON the morning of the attacks. Just think about that for a little while.