Terrorism Debate

[Grifter]

Bondo, ok, I didn't see Bob as the corporate boss that makes employees take a drug test.... while still doing the drugs himself.  But let's not forget the other actor there... the evil Blair (aka insurance companies).  Blair is the one really forcing Bob to do this, since Blair loses money when Joe has health problems.  And Blair has lots or reports that say DRUGS (including alcohol, but he can't do much about that one) cost him a bunch of money in health care benefits.  Now Blair is a greedy fuck.  Any money Blair doesn't make is a loss to him... Joe doesn't mean a thing to Blair, and Bob is only Blair's customer.  What Blair wants is Bob's money for taking care of Joe, but not to take care of Joe at all.  Blair is all about Greed.  It's Blairs greed that is the major push behind Bob not wanting pot legal.

[Bondo]

But Al knows a better way, he tells the government to nationalize heath insurance, thus making Blair unemployed and giving Joe equal care as Bob, Blair, and Al.  He feels that everyone should have equal health care even if they don't have equal money.  This means Blair has no reason to tell Bob to keep pot illegal.  Therefore, Bob and Joe both organize to fight for the legalization and they both live hapily ever after.

[Grifter]

There's the rub of it.

Blair doesn't want the government to provide national health care.  And since Blair provides gobs and gobs of money to the polititioins, helping them get elected and stay that way, as long as they do what Blair wants.... well, they do what Blair wants.

Then there's Mike, who stands next to Al, warning of the problems associated with National Health Care.  The fact that since there is money to be made in health care lots of money) it keeps inovation moving forward.  Mike tells us that things like MRI's and AIDs research are more advanced in America because that money is a motivation.  He also says not to mistake the fact that the FDA in America holds back treatments until it is very satisfied (which tends to be painfully longer then Europeans and Canadians), this is already because of the government, and not impacted at all by National Health Care.  He also mentions the higher taxes and actually higher mortallity rate found in the countries that have national health care already.

Mike would have some valid points (not all are proof, many of them could only be disproved by attempting national health care, but that's the rub, try it and it may be too late to reverse it).  Between Mike pointing out that there is no perfect solution (sorry Al) and big bags of money from Blair (the real motivation) I don't think Al's experiment will ever get attempted.

[Bondo]

Then there is "A Fucking Moron" who is "A Fucking Moron"  he has no thought, mainly because he is "A Fucking Moron" .  Actually, he has no point in this debate other than the fact that I wanted to say "A Fucking Moron" a few times  

P.S. "A Fucking Moron" is a fictional character, any relation to anyone you know (Rom) is purely coincidental.

[Grifter]

LMAO,

Hey, every neighborhood has it's tardo's.  In Bob's neighborhood he lives right next door to Abdul, claims to live at Blairs, put's on a disguise and pretends to be Al, and still get's mocked.

[Bander dfgdb]

Hm. In my story abdul isnt the goverment (like bob) is. i used abdul as a "ordinary citizen" sheme (so abdul doesnt fit here). lol. i just wanted to try to expand this - fun but too hard (english lag for me)

[Bondo]

Well either you have English Lag, or you majorly German Host Kill us.

[jn.blackhand]

after reading how complicated his story was and the intricate web of neighbors and animals surrounding his house, bob is very confused. bob like it better when bob was the only named character of his story and he didn't have to deal with all these crazy misfits.

on the other hand, bob has struck a movie deal with a big shot producer. bob has just added another one million to his fortune. bob thinks he'll splurge and buy himself a six-pack of fresca.

[Grifter]

And yes, it comes full circle... and everyone wants to be Bob again.

Bander, in my analogy... Abdul is a government... in this case, the Taliban (since they control Afghanistan at this time.... well, as much as anyone does).  

I think the important part of the analogy is that since there is no police force in this neighborhood (there isn't a world wide police force... closest thing is the UN.. and that's kind of a joke)... since there isn't... the people of the neighborhood have to take the law into their own hands.  Never the best solution, but when faced with the threat of danger, something has to be done.  The shame of it is that Abdul has a family... and they can get hurt when Bob and the other people from the neighborhood go into Abdul's house to try to make things better.  

Bad guys don't stand in the open and fight.. they hide behind innocent people.  So the question has always been... how do you get the bad guys without hurting any of the innocents... and how many innocents do you sacrafice before it's too many.... after all... how many will these bad guys kill if not stopped?  Also... you have to be careful not to create more bad guys because they don't see the picture the same way.. and think that it's ok to be terrorists.

[Ace]

Ok, you guys are all morons, you forgot about George. George saw all these posts and was way to tired to think about it all and keep up. So George just said "Don't mess with Texas" and bombed everyone else.

[Bander???]

Hmm Mr. Grifter. ALWAYS when i post something here u turn it into a way that makes me appear stupid.

THIS IS WHAT I WROTE BEFORE YOUR LAST POST:
"Hm. In my story abdul isnt the goverment (like bob) is. i used abdul as a "ordinary citizen" sheme (so abdul doesnt fit here). lol. i just wanted to try to expand this - fun but too hard (english lag for me) "

And you - Grifter AGAIN turn it that way that i support those Taliban Bastards with that story. I can remember to have been accused by you to not read your posts - but as it seems u dont even read such "small" ones like the one (mine) above.

By the Way: Lets stop that stupid "funny" story. People die in masses due to the Bombings now (Mosque, Hospital, UN Workers, Civilian Homes) - of course u will insist "they all died due to their own stupidy" (as someone already said here). Also the Northern Alliance People are just useful idiots to the "west" now - as i can read in the web and see in the news.
But seems the U.S. are still listening to the Pakistani Dictator and his "Goverment" (+ the ISI Secret service). Those Pakistanis are bastards, snakes, liars and had been (and still are maybe) the main source of the taliban movement. As long the U.S. stick to the wrong "Partners" this whole operation is doomed and all your "colateral" damage is senseless.

I also heared reports that U.S. Bombers attacked NA Forces on the frontlines too (by mistake) - what the hell?

[Grifter]

Hmm Mr. Grifter. ALWAYS when i post something here u turn it into a way that makes me appear stupid.

THIS IS WHAT I WROTE BEFORE YOUR LAST POST:
"Hm. In my story abdul isnt the goverment (like bob) is. i used abdul as a "ordinary citizen" sheme (so abdul doesnt fit here). lol. i just wanted to try to expand this - fun but too hard (english lag for me) "

And you - Grifter AGAIN turn it that way that i support those Taliban Bastards with that story. I can remember to have been accused by you to not read your posts - but as it seems u dont even read such "small" ones like the one (mine) above.

Bander... I turned nothing around, but did the EXACT same thing as you.... explained my position.  Yes, lord forbid that I was actually makeing a point.  

Get over yourself Bander.  There are those of us here discussing a current topic.  There was no mock (intended or otherwise) of you in my previous post (unlike this one).  As for reading your post... I did.  Maybe you should read my post witout your "it's mocking Bander" twist to it.

As for me making you look stupid Bander... it's not me.. you are doing a fine job of it all by yourself.  I read your post.  I heard what you had to say.  I then wrote what my meaning was.... hmmmm... sounds logical to me.  I don't understand your obsession with taking ANYTHING I say and turning it into something insulting you, Bander...

Oh, and a last thing... you seem to be as anti-Pakistan as anyone here as been anti-Afghanistan... for someone telling the rest of us that we are full of shit for all the hate, you seem to have quite a bit yourself.  Oh, but that's ok, you are Bander after all and these are YOUR forums.... so please, continue...

Bander, people like you scare me.  People that don't understand something, and so they lash out at it.  All the worse, they *appear* intelligent, which initially lends weight to their arguments.  But in reality, you are just a very opinionated ass, that has mild paranoia ("Mr. Grifter, ALWAYS when I post something you turn it....").  

Like I said.  If you are at all interested in intelligent debate over issues (as many of us here are), then remove yourself from the center of your universe and read what is said without any slant.

Trust me, if I want to call you a jackass... I will come right out and say it.

[jn.loudnotes]

Aside from how this all got off topic when everyone ganged up on Bander......

I think this thread is still current.  I still don't approve of the war.  Anyone else have comments?

[JAGG on diff comp]

8)8) LOL the title of this thread was terrorist debate BUT......BUT its now smething about strange little characters that my buds GRIFT and BONDO  have created i know a publisher if u would like to publish this story

[jn.wrath]

Jagg, those little people are also known as Tony Blair, the Prime Minister of Britain.