Raven Shield - From the point of view of a player

[Typhy]

While you mac people are busy maintaining your illinformed and delusional opinion of Raven Shield, I thought I'd throw in a couple comments from someone who's played more of the game than 99% of you.

Juding from past history, Sin will be throwing our RvS propaganda, however, that's fine. We obviously have different opinions of the game. I'd also like to hear from jo, pat, and xo, and any others of us who've got a PC sitting around.

You Rogue Spear players are thinking "Omg, finally "RS 2" - great graphics, and the ability to run in OSX."

You Ghost Recon players are thinking "Ah, a CQC version of Ghost Recon, with better graphics, and hopefuly better optimization."

You're both far from being correct. Raven Shield isn't "RS 2". The gameplay is far different, as is the movement. The movement is much more like that of Ghost Recon, including the nice ability to lay prone. Because of the lack of the ability to hit shots while moving, campers have a huge advantage.

You Ghost Recon players are wrong too. With Raven Shield, you won't be sidesteping around corners, firing 2 shots from your SA 80s, and ending up with a kill. As a general rule, in Raven Shield, when you want to shoot, you stop.

Also, those of you like Kilzo who comment "this will make for a huge BL", I think you will find yourselves mistaken. What so many people in this community fail to realize is that, yes, there are other gaming communities. Assuming that GameRanger support is not offered for Raven Shield, I think it's very unlikely that there will be a *DAMN ladder for it at all. Once you start playing outside of GameRanger, you'll stumble onto an entire new world, and suddenly, trying to play the game within GameRanger, or against other mac clans will have less value, or meaning to you.

Anyway, just my thoughts. Any questions, feel free to ask. As I said before, I'd like to hear from some of the others of us who have this game for PC.

[(SEALs) one]

Lothario stop the watch stop the watch, write down the time! ;-)

I tried RvS at CompUSA the other day on an ALienware.  Very nice graphics, kind of awkward wih the gun sticking out though.  Anyways, RvS will be great.

[[d]-[p a t]]

I doubt it will be great, one. Most of our comps won't run RvS well if at all. Typhy is right about the gameplay being different and in my opinion a change for the worst. With smaller maps like RS and movement like Ghost Recon it makes for an extremely boring game after a while. Rushing doesn't do much unless you have a pistol because you dont have a chance in hell to hit someone 100 yards away (running) with a g36k or something. Even standing up it's very hard to hit someone so you almost always have to lie prone and take up a sniper position in a map like CSL. The only good moments I experienced in RvS were at CSL in the rare basement CQC battles. Say what you want, guys, but 90% of people that have played RvS have dislike it.  

[kos.viper]

Sounds like AA Typhy.  Is it that kind of game play?

[Maniac]

I think Raven Shield fucked up the whole Tom Clancy series, because        
RVS should of been a refernished RS. What i mean is better graphices no glitches and runs in OSX. Thats just my opinion anyways, how can you make people move like in GHR, and be in RS maps?! That is the most bullshit thing they could of ever done. It might be lliked by a bunch of people, but im sure it's not going to make too much money.

[*DAMN Hazard]

You Ghost Recon players are thinking "Ah, a CQC version of Ghost Recon, with better graphics, and hopefuly better optimization."

Yes, but in RvS there is actually skill to aiming unlike in GhR. I agree with there being no *DAMN section of the BL for RvS if there is no GR support.

[the Lin]

guys guys guys. ..

 play it until you start to kill ppl, then it's all green grass, and pherahps even a woman out there. ..

Posted by: [d]-[PaT]
"Say what you want, guys, but 90% of people that have played RvS have dislike it. "

Where you hear that?

Posted by: Typhy
"Because of the lack of the ability to hit shots while moving, campers have a huge advantage."

Campers usually don't live long enough to use that advantage, and there's always a boot around the corner.  

Posted by: AgT one
"Very nice graphics, kind of awkward wih the gun sticking out though."

Then you turn it off  
I have it on, helps you remeber what your holding when theres grenades allover, and some metal plate is popping from gunfire cause this maniac with a Machinegun is trying to cap you thru a wall. ..

// NK?Lin

[Typhy]

Sounds like AA Typhy.  Is it that kind of game play?

Because AA and RvS use the same graphics engine, they look much the same, however, they're far different games.

Raven Shield has a reticule like RS or GHR. One of the biggest improvements over those two, is the fact that there's a "snap scope". You press your zoom key, and you're looking through the scope, more like the Sniper Rifles in GHR, if you want something to compare it to.

While Pat's 90% estimate may be off, he's right that the majority of the people who bought Raven Shield dislike it.

[(SEALs) one]

Raven Shield can't be that bad. And Pat why don't you get a new computer than, geezus, I'm getting a G4 so I can run AA and RvS.  And Typhy, why don't you start shutting up and maybe PLAY the fucking game on a MAC first before you judge it with your "PC testing of RvS".  

[Typhy]

One, with your logic, Raven Shied has just gone from a $50 game to a $3,050 game.

It's a game one. It's the same on a PC as on a mac. Hmm, where will this game seem better? My mac at 30 FPS or my PC at 175? The only thing the mac could potentially add is the community that's lacking in the PC world, unless you're a serious player. I'm telling you about the game - that doesn't change depending on what machine you're using.

 

[*DAMN Hazard]

Typhy if you had a baby you would name it Tom Clancy Clough. I can see Typh yelling at his poor little boy on an old ass Mac "GO FOR THE HEADSHOTS SON! YOU SHOULD BE WINNING YOU GET GREAT FRAMERATES. GIVE 'EM THE OLE FRAMERATE SPEACH TOM." Your expectations are too based towards RS. Change is good sometimes. Adaption is what makes great players.

[Typhy]

Haz, MOH:AA? RTCW? SH? AA? GHR? I don't adapt? Bring it.

[frank]

u could be adapted to all those games but ur not that good at any of them.

[Typhy]

u could be adapted to all those games but ur not that good at any of them.

mmm? Once you grow some balls and post under your real name, I'd love to kick your ass at any of them.

[Mr.Mellow]

So..you're whining because you can't get a headshot from 100 yards away while running? Big deal. RS was way too unrealistic in that sense anyways. I like realism over fun. Makes the game a lot less Quake-like.

[Typhy]

. I like realism over fun.

Not quite sure it was meant to come out this way. . .

You'll soon see what I mean.

[PsYcO aSsAsSiN]

You can easily get kills while running with a rifle...it takes a fair amount of skill and technique. If you want to learn how, send me a PM, it really isn't that hard (well, now it kinda is with the gay 1.4 bullet lag patch)

[Maniac]

It isn't that hard if you can keep an steady aim, and also why does it seem like typhy vs 10 people or does it end up like that always. No wander he can argue so good. Also with his family about who can sleep the closest to the fire inside the igloo.

[Typhy]

I think that most of you will find that running shots don't really play a role in RvS, even though there may be some people who have the ability to hit them.

Maniac, it's the other way around. We fight about who can sleep FARTHEST from the fire - we're Alaskans, we love the cold. Of course, we don't argue - we do the Eskimo Stick pull to decide. ( Alaska Native Olympic event ).  

[Maniac]

The worst way to be uncomfratable is cold and tired trust me, if it came down to it you would sleep next to the fire.