GameRanger Shutting Down?

[smoke.aHa!]

Ya i was there, he was bitching about how he threw his 5 years down the drain working on this and he finally wants to get a life and all these other things, he said premium people would get their money back if he did close it down. I would try to sell it to some big corp, Apple wouldnt buy it and im tired of people bitching about sell it to apple, Apple cares more about catching up and pwning microsoft instead of paying their selfsfor some apple some australian guy made, plus GR would never be updated probably and you would have 1 morebanner on there as well because Apple has 0 to gain. Best bet is someone like Battle.net to host it, but then youd probably be screwed over with down networks and other crap people hate, espeacially you would get all these games on GR which are CRAP anyways, imagine having all these NOOB?R games on GR? CAT VS MOUSE,YUGIOMONSTERS all these BS games, and no more linking in the chats to porn links or crazy links that pwn people. Plus youd have your a crapload of admins on GR. to me there is an upside cause i could play with my PC N??B friendswho play D2 LOD which i have but, i dont really care about those N??bs. but to Evill, GL if you do quit, hope u get a life and those 5 years u lost over .

[BTs_Lee.Harvey]

I think it is funny that so many peeps have GR4Ever on there names and still refuse to get premium... If you want to keep it around then help evill keep it up by donating to what you love playing and chatting on!!! If we lose GR we will have to set up games on the *Damn site... and that would be a pain in the ass for us and mauti!

[Cow]

that GR4ever shit is pissing me off and i havent been on GR in 2 weeks.  If i were Apple I would shell over the probably few thousand dollars Evill will sell it for, then put it into the .mac thing, so you would get all of those features which one would consider and then add a totally free Game Ranger service into it which would be hosted on the same servers as Apples supercomputers.  I think it sounds pretty fair to me.

[|MP|Buccaneer]

Cow, Apple would have to think they'd make a profit to do it.  And not just a little profit either.

[Cow]

i think they would, they could advertise apple gaming and they would sell it with .mac, that would increase .mac sales but i dunno how much it would cost to add in GR support.  Just throw it in with the iDisk servers? meh

[c| Dr. NO]

I think the GR going down talk is alot of bs my self, if it wa so bad, why wouldnt he sell it to mac huh?  I think he's making enough $ to get by np, and as for all this talk.  All its doing is getting him more prem. members err $.  Not to say i dont love gr, and that i wont be paying 50$ to scott the geek evil come 2 weeks from now, its just i think all this talk of gr dieing is lame.

and i also think apple would buy gr even if there was no profit.  if there was no gr, where the @##$ would we play apple games?

[BTs_Ch A oS]

If anyone finds somewhere or builds somewhere for us mac-gamers--let me know!!!!!!!!

[Toxic::Joka]

Sure we will sturm, count on it  

*whispers* quick everyone run to the rocket GO GO GO  

jk

GR aint going down, but still...get premium

[KoS.Rebel]

Wowzers that was alot of reading.....i agree with bucc in the fact that if u bitch about it and dont have premium u really need to fuck off, but there are some of us who come on GR periodically to talk (myself) and that we could live without it (myself). Oh yeah and just because i dont have premium doesnt make me a noob, ive been on GR longer then most the noobs with premium.

[|MP|Buccaneer]

Dr No,

Your post is more full of wishful thinking than not.  Apple has repeatedly shown that game sales are not their priority.  For Scott to sell it to Apple, they'd have to be willing to buy it (at his price), and he'd have to be willing to sell it.  

Now, one quick point about selling it.  People keep talking about him selling or giving GR away.  I ask why should he?  Oh, if he can make a decent price off it, ok, that makes sense, but otherwise, why should he give anything else to the community that isn't very willing to give back?  Think about it.  This community is pissing him off, why should he do something that nice for it?  People say it's mean or rude.  Is it any meaner, or ruder then the majority of people on GR?

My opinion is no, it's not.  

[c| Dr. NO]

Well now wait a sec, Scott "the geek" Evill makes more money off this lil # then just the money from these prem. acc's.  Other then the clicks of the banner, how about the promo's from the software guys for their games?  No way would he keep gr up for this long with out making some $$.  I never see the guy playing, for sure he's making bank.  I think he's just sick of not making enough bank, so why not spred a rumour about gr going down to make people think they have to  get prem or not play at all.

i'm debateing with you bucc, but i feel the need to remind you that i will be paying the 50$ as soon as i move i know i will have high speed.  I've been playing on gr for like 4-5 years now, and am very greatfull for the use of it.  50$ for more hrs then i can ever count of fun and good cyber friends is well worth it.

   -Doc

[BTs_Ch A oS]

I spotted Evill playing GhR a couple of nights ago in a locked 3-person room.

I couldn't crack the pass lol.

I'm glad he as at least tried GhR!

[c| Dr. NO]

well well, he does play...was he hosting?  who else was in the room?  was he winning?  were they on nf? what was the ping?  time of day?




             heh jk

[|MP|Buccaneer]

No, what promo's from the software guys?  And this is the first banner he's had on for six or eight months now, isn't it?  

BTW, he doesn't make click through rates on the banner, but charges a set fee, and not a high one at that.

I've also heard people talk about hosting for him.  It's kinda funny because everyone seems to think that they can host GR off a cable modem, or even a T1.  While average transmission may be little enough for a single T1 to handle in a day, it's the peaks that make a difference.  Think about 200 people all downloading the latest update and reconnecting at the same time.  Do the math, say it's a 1MB file.  That doesn't sound too bad.  But lets see, divide the best (not average, but best) upload speed of a T1 by 200, what do you get?  Roughly 20 minutes for that update.  What do you get now, 10 seconds or so?  Think about the bandwidth it takes to keep GameRanger running.  

Dr. No, your argument seems to center on the fact taht you don't think someone would do this if they were making dog-shit for money.  I know what high bandwidth costs, I know how much Evill charges for advertising, and I know how many premium accounts I see on.  I'll take his word for it when he told me what he actually made last year.  It makes sense.

Add to that how much people rag on Evill, how many are just abusive assholes, and just ungrateful pricks.  

My opinion is, Evill is not just blowing smoke.  I can understand how he feels.  We quit hosting clans for free due to some of these same reasons.  It felt like everyone wanted more for free, complained about it, tried to hack in, decided to be huge dicks, etc.  It wasn't worth the effort.

Also, I'm not going to be pissed if Evill does decide to close GR, not at him anyway.  All I've been saying is that most of the people I've seen bitching about it on GR are people that have not paid to support GR.  Which is bullshit to me.  And, if GR does close down in the next weeks or months, anyone that bitches that didn't pay is just an ignorant bastard.  Everyone has the chance to make a difference, both in paying and not being a ungrateful prick to Evill, the question is, what will they do with that chance?

[Supernatural Pie]

I spotted Evill playing GhR a couple of nights ago in a locked 3-person room.

I couldn't crack the pass lol.

ICMP Logger. Duh!  


btw: this thread has about half as many views as the spam drop box, and about 1/5th the number of posts. Just a useless observation.

[c| Dr. NO]

OK about the money, but he has to know that all those bitching people are kids, and we all know how the kids of gr can be.  They just don't care, they'll bitch about anything.

I guess i just can't see, or understaind why someone would pay for all this and not make anything off it.  For the amount of work that someone would have to putt in to gr to get it up and keep it going you would think he had some master plan in mind.  But wtf do i know, maybe he just wanted to play games with all his friends lol

nuff said

[Jeb]

To answer strums question, there is a place called MAG which has a semi operational osX client, but autojoining isn't built in yet...
Secondly, evill was one of the first people to play GHR on gameranger on my host back in late november. and a word of advice, ph34r him in coop

[ViRaL Moving]

I am moving but as soon as i get my new emac im getting my mom to cough up the $$$ and im callin my dad and making him get his account made premium!!  LONG LIVE GR

[spike]

if evill hates it so much, why doesnt he just dump it, instead of whining. update, decide, refund the money. methinks evill is a wee bit of a drama queen....

[*NADS Foxy]

yeah, and sell GR or give someone the code