Apple Selling Overpriced Goods; Switch To PC?

[Mr. Lothario]

     There is a PC community, but it seems to be based on shared negatives (exchanging Windows horror stories, talking about how much X program crashes, and so on). The Mac community is based on a shared quality as well, but in that case, it's a shared positive (or at least neutral) thing: ownership of a Mac. Besides which, you've probably noticed that Mac users are, on average, much nicer people than PC users. Come to think of it, I suspect that that is one thing that detracts from the possibility of an overall PC community: any potential community is immediately overrun by dickheads. There are tons of communities of PC users, but they're not PC-user communities. They're people who are together for some other reason, who happen to use PCs. On the other hand, when Mac users are together, for whatever reason, there's always the underlying "hey, we're all Mac users" vibe. Which I, for one, like. : )

[|MP|Nomad]

Hey Cow,

It would be great, infact awesome, if you can give me the exact link at pcmag with Apples score.  But great info.

Nom's

[|MP|Nomad]

Keep them coming ppl, I love these answers.  Again, these are for serious posts only, thnx.

Nom's

[kos.viper]

On the other hand, when Mac users are together, for whatever reason, there's always the underlying "hey, we're all Mac users" vibe. Which I, for one, like. : )

I always have that feeling when I walk into an Apple store.  It's like a cult  

[0 Kilz:M:]

Face it, it just does'nt get any smexier than Jaguar ( maybe Panther will, but I dunno yet ). Mac OS interface is just plain beautiful. Would you like to have a jagged piece of gravel or a nice smooth marble?

                    pcslut                      ::)Macattack

[BeefyFigure]

Think different!  That's the spirit!

[kos.viper]

Face it, it just does'nt get any smexier than Jaguar ( maybe Panther will, but I dunno yet ).

Ok you, watch it with my smexier word now.

[xoclipse1]

I think for me, it comes down to this between mac and pc's. PC's are cheaper than mac's. It's true. That's what does it for me.

What disadvantages does my pc have, well, lets see... i don't get applecare..hmm.. what else....rare crashing, mac community isn't there(i miss you guys - some of you), lack of the wonderful OS X - aqua and bsd..mmmm

Now what advantages does it have?  Very fast computer for a very affordable price, more freedom(you can build your own, not customize on apple's site, actually buy each part for the cheapest you can find, and build it),  all the new games that come out, lots of software, bigger gaming community...

Basically, my point is, if money is what is holding you to choose between a mac and pc, I would get a pc. It's plain and sample, faster macs are very expensive, and you can buy an affordable pc, that is uber fast. For the price, get a pc. If I had a lot of money to spend(2000 dollars), i would definitely get one of those ownage dual g4 towers...but I don't. That's my take.

Kilzo - I know how much you like your colorful imac(purple), so i found this case for you if you get a pc - Don't use really long links

Btw, I just bought a 2.4C ghz processor - the one with a 800mhz fsb! WOOT. I also got a new mobo - based on the 865PE chipset. ABIT IS7. I can't wait!!!!

xoclipse

[BeefyFigure]

Basically, my point is, if money is what is holding you to choose between a mac and pc, I would get a pc.

Exactly my point.

I have to say, I'm rather short on money.  So I'm looking for the best buy.

[Mr. Lothario]

     Xo, how much did you spend on your PC to build it (and how long ago was that?), and how much have you spent on hardware since to keep it current?

[|MP|Nomad]

more freedom(you can build your own, not customize on apple's
xoclipse

Actually that's not true, you CAN customize on the apple website, you dont have to take what the default model comes with.

[*DAMN Mauti]

What he is meaning is that you can customize the motherboard and all other stuff while you are very limited on the Mac side.

Bye,

Mauti

[Toxic::Joka]

What he is meaning is that you can customize the motherboard and all other stuff while you are very limited on the Mac side.

Bye,

Mauti

Acctually it is possible, pretty much as it is on PC's. You can buy a shell and start building even with macs. (yes i see the limited, but its not anymore limited than it is on PC's...not much anyways)

www.gigadesigns.com

http://www.powerlogixstore.com/pc/viewCat.asp

Not stepping on ya toes mauti  

[J47 in spain]

A dell

Why?

I love Games

period

Utlimo

dont do it!!! thats exactly what i did. I bought a 1.6 p4 256 ram 60 gb, and XP pro for only $1,100 back in dec 2001. I thought it would replace my G3 350 mhz 512 ram 20 gb Mac. So please consider buying a PC. I know you want it for games. Just give it a thought man. The games are cool.  And if you do, get a 128mb video card.

- J47

[Toxic::Joka]

A dell

Why?

I love Games

period

Utlimo

dont do it!!! thats exactly what i did. I bought a 1.6 p4 256 ram 60 gb, and XP pro for only $1,100 back in dec 2001. I thought it would replace my G3 350 mhz 512 ram 20 gb Mac. So please consider buying a PC. I know you want it for games. Just give it a thought man. The games are cool.  And if you do, get a 128mb video card.

- J47

Is it just me.....or did you just torpedo your own statement    

...dont get a PC....please get one...   maybe im just too tired

[j47 in spain]

JokaKutiHuti -
I advices him not to get a PC. however the games that come out for it are cool. But if decides to go buy one, to atleast get one with a 128mb v-card. Why? for the GAMES!
Is that a clear?

-J47

[(SEALs) one]

Very fast computer for a very affordable price, more freedom(you can build your own, not customize on apple's site, actually buy each part for the cheapest you can find, and build it)

Actaully, xoclipse you can build your own mac without the customizable features in the Apple Store.  This coming from a Macworld Issue a few months ago, but I have summarized it.  I think I may have also forgot a few things also so bare with me since I threw into the recycling bin sometime ago.

Purchase a Mac-compatible old beige box on ebay.  Purchase a processor from Sonnet Technolgies or some other place.  Buy the best ram for the cheapest price.  Purchase a retail video card from a computer store near you.  That's all I remember, sorry.

[CovertOp]

If you plan on gaming mainly, without a doubt go PC.

I'm looking in to making a PC soon, so last night I was messing around with seeing what I can build and for how much.

CPU:Athlon XP 3000+ 400FSB=$275(why AMD? they are cheaper and alittle faster then intel)
video card:Radeon 9800pro 128mb(why not 256mb? from what I hear the games that are in development wont take advantage of the extra 128mb of ram)=$270
system memory:1GB of DDRAM(on one stick, could be cheaper with 2 sticks but this enables better upgading)=$169
case /w power supply:11 bays /w 500watts(it was just a quick pick, you don't need that much)=$32
HD:40GB 7200RPM,ATA133,2mb cashe=$58
motherboard:400FSB,400DDRAM,ATA133,AGP8x,audio,6xUSB 2.0,LAN,ATX=$61
CD drive:CD-RW 52x24x52=$36

Total:$901 for a top of the line PC
If you need a another monitor you can get a 19inch CRT for $124
all PC parts above were gathered from www.pricewatch.com

so for little over $1000 you can top of line uber PC, and G5s start at $2000 not including a monitor. And if you were to get a duel processor you wasting money, most games wont use the 2nd processor.

PCs have a MUCH large gaming selection/community and you don't have to wait a year for the new games

if your geting opions from a mac community what do you think they would say? if you were to ask a PC community, they would be stuned then laugh and might say, "mac? games?LOLOLOL!!!!11!!".  so take in to consiteration who your geting your info from.

So if your just going to game GO GET A PC.

[*DAMN Mauti]

That's also what most mac user have said here!: if you only want a machine for gaming get a PC or console, period.

Btw I wouldn't suggest you an AMD processor. They are slightly cheaper but performancewise they are behind - look at www.tomshardware.com. I would suggest you to get a P4 with at least 3.06Ghz and a 800FSB which increases the performance significantly or wait until the P5 comes out in the end of this year and then P4 prises will drop like flies.

Bye,

Mauti

[(SEALs) one]

The explanation to why we don't get games until a year or more later or how PCs have more games is because of all the Major Mac gaming companies, Pangeasoft is the only to my knowledge that produces games for Mac.  The other major companies, Aspyr, Macsoft, Ambrosia, Feral, Macplay and Graphsim just port games to Mac or produce "free" 3d games that you can play online at their website.