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« Reply #40 on: May 02, 2002, 11:10:11 pm »

But why should you judge what is offensive?

We have general guidelines on what's not allowed (like porn, spam, etc), why do you feel there need to be more controls, and that you are the best one to identify them? ?The title of this forum is:
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Notice the rumors and quarrels. ?Isn't this the place to discuss just this kind of thing??

So Kit Kat isn't doing it well, if that were a crime, half the people here would be guilty. ?Cow can handle himself just fine and get this all cleared up. ?

As for the guys crying out about being tired of hearing about it.... the subject said it all... no need to read it or comment on it if you are really not interested. ?That's one of the other beautiful things about a public forum... everyone gets to speak, but nobody has to listen. ?

Even more Bondo, you are fighting a fight here that Cow is already taking care of in GR (I'm assuming) since Cow told me today that he did a 1v1 CB with one of the CF. ?He also told me (to my surprise) that he was both skilled and not a trash talker. ?So you are now judging CF by one poster (as many people judged AK by Rapid) and doing what you wanted to stop.... how does that make sense?

One more point... just to clearify my previous point... most of the guys being assholes and talking shit to the CF's in the Bar and Grill were not AK's... it looked more like the guys that wanted to get into AK.

As for clans that talk shit... sorry to say that most do.  Not every player from every clan, but every clan seems to have someone that likes to talk shit.  If the worst thing they say is that they are going to "ownz joo" (God help me if the world really talks this way), then beat them, hump them (which is being adopted by ASL as the sign language talking shit) and  have at it.  CB or not.  It's the best way to stop the shit.
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« Reply #41 on: May 02, 2002, 11:12:25 pm »

Count me in Typhy, if the schedual is not good enough for ?Kit Kat, I will 1v1 Kit Kat 5/3 (Friday) at 5PM EST.
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« Reply #42 on: May 02, 2002, 11:25:44 pm »

Good, You should have no problem with him Cossak.

And yes, While what Kit Kat is doing is allowed in these forums, basically it is just making himself look bad and he is getting himself into a fight that he cannot win.  I am still not sure at all how Racism came into this. Considering that nothing shows really in how you post, chat etc. Then there is no reason that anything racist was said without you bringing it on yourself.

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« Reply #43 on: May 02, 2002, 11:36:55 pm »

blah blah blah you all suck blah blah blah disrespect blah blah blah (insert racist comment here) blah blah blah ?K and ?F are whiny bitches blah blah blah i think oreos are tasty blah blah blah the sky is blue because i said so blah blah blah once upona ?time blah blah blah spam isn't just a meat product blah blah blah do you know what ?nkleblastinken means in german? blah blah blah if you do tell me blah blah blah is this annoying you? blah blah blah if 10/2=5 what do mayflowers bring? blah blah blah and that is why i like macintosh.
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« Reply #44 on: May 02, 2002, 11:38:16 pm »

Typhy,
You are exactly right.  When people talk in the open about things like this (in a public, unedited forum) the truth usually comes out (nothing is perfect).  If Kit Kat is wrong and acting like an ass... it will show.  If you are, it will equally show, if I am I'll delete your posts and lock the thread so you never know (kidding).

Bottom Line... looks like Kit Kat was trying to get a CB with AK.... called them out... and is not getting the CB.  Isn't that part of what it's all about?  Could they have done it better....?  Sure, probably, at least in my eyes... but hey, I've seen a hell of a lot worse.

Good for you guys not just turning this into a flame war and taking it into a CB where it belongs.

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« Reply #45 on: May 02, 2002, 11:39:54 pm »

even though everything that was said is allowed, you ppl were walking very close to the line
too close, if you ask me
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« Reply #46 on: May 02, 2002, 11:44:17 pm »

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blah blah blah you all suck blah blah blah disrespect blah blah blah (insert racist comment here) blah blah blah ?K and ?F are whiny bitches blah blah blah i think oreos are tasty blah blah blah the sky is blue because i said so blah blah blah once upona ?time blah blah blah spam isn't just a meat product blah blah blah do you know what ?nkleblastinken means in german? blah blah blah if you do tell me blah blah blah is this annoying you? blah blah blah if 10/2=5 what do mayflowers bring? blah blah blah and that is why i like macintosh.
That post has made the most sense out of all of them. Thank you Capt. Anarchy, you have brought a new light into my life with your post, you must truley be the son of god!
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« Reply #47 on: May 02, 2002, 11:46:07 pm »

I would have found it funnier if Ace hadn't done that last week =P
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« Reply #48 on: May 02, 2002, 11:56:37 pm »

I never said everyone in CF was like Kit Kat, but I stand by my statement that with what Kit Kat has said about AK they have no reason to battle them.  

Let me just outline something here:
Acceptable: Why did AK dodge our challange?

Unacceptable: Why did those Racist fagz AK act like pussies and not CB us?

See the difference Grifter, I have no problem with people having problems with other people, but they should leave their stupid comments out of it.  And yes, I think I am a perfectly good person to decide what is acceptable.
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« Reply #49 on: May 03, 2002, 12:39:10 am »



Yes, Those are good points be both Grifter and Bondo. Basicaly if KIT KAT wants to say things like that it's fine with me, All that it will do is make people hate you.  However I don't find it aceptable to have you call us "Racist Hoes" is a post. There is a diffrence between what is aceptable and what is leagal.  See, it is legal to sit on your roof with a Sniper rifle and shoot bullets around people as long as you don't  hit them. It is harassment and is not aceptable at all however it is legal.

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« Reply #50 on: May 03, 2002, 01:10:20 am »

so typhy is a ak i c..

hey typhy instead of me setting it up with emails, how about i go to you guys again for the 4th time it would be and ask .....

this time dont refuse our offer
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« Reply #51 on: May 03, 2002, 01:23:25 am »

yo did you guys miss what i said yo?

i said i went in peacefully, and asked ak for a clan fight... after about 5 mins of no responding they finally respond to me saying STFU.... and i was like um yo you promised us a clan fight...

though one said you a wanna be black man?.. then i replied actually i happen to be black..

then one of them replies oh blacks are good..... good for being slaves...

so now you can see where i gotz that racist hoes from?

ANY QUESTIONS?!
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« Reply #52 on: May 03, 2002, 01:37:46 am »

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yo did you guys miss what i said yo?

i said i went in peacefully, and asked ak for a clan fight... after about 5 mins of no responding they finally respond to me saying STFU.... and i was like um yo you promised us a clan fight...

though one said you a wanna be black man?.. then i replied actually i happen to be black..

then one of them replies oh blacks are good..... good for being slaves...

so now you can see where i gotz that racist hoes from?

ANY QUESTIONS?!


Okay, Don't lie, I know my clan well and I know for a fact that they would say nothing racist like that without you seriously bringing it on and I still don't think that they would say that.  

Also, Don't just go ask, 1/3 of our players aren't yet in our clan, You must set these things up. Email me if you want to actually talk not just say crap that you have no facts etc to back up.

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« Reply #53 on: May 03, 2002, 01:55:04 am »

uh typhy i asked your leader rapid and co-leader as i was told monk.... so if you are saying i am asking yo newbie members... you just called your leaders newbies..... jeez yo get it strate
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« Reply #54 on: May 03, 2002, 03:59:13 am »

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wrong grifter, you must understand. what ace did was write impersonations of what other ppl say. what i wrote is what i had to say without all the filler (blah blah blah), just short and meanigful ideas.
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« Reply #55 on: May 03, 2002, 05:02:44 am »

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wrong grifter, you must understand. what ace did was write impersonations of what other ppl say. what i wrote is what i had to say without all the filler (blah blah blah), just short and meanigful ideas.


Sure, and Francis Ford Coppola didn't rip off Joseph Conrad...
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« Reply #56 on: May 03, 2002, 06:09:27 am »

Grin @ Ace

Anyway Kit Kat, apparently AK has battled CF in a 1v1 with Cow where he won.
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« Reply #57 on: May 03, 2002, 06:35:13 am »

Wow Bondo, I thought you were a Libertarian, not a Fascist. ?What ever happened to that Freedom of Speech you believed in before?

There is a hell of a lot of difference between calling someone a racist or asshole then shouting "FIRE" in a crowded theater, we went over that before. ?

You've taken a side in another argument that you don't know much about. ?WHY I ask? ?You don't know who's right in here. ?The truth lies somewhere in the middle. ?So what if Kit Kat is inarticulate in his being wronged (it's the way he feels). ?He should have his chance to voice it, not have it locked multiple times or his comments edited. ?If he's just a loud mouth asshole, that will become evident... if he's right, that will become evident too.... and the truth will probably be parts of both.

This isn't Dodge City, and you are Marshall Bondo, needing to come in and clean the town up for decent folk. This is a place to voice an opinion, no matter how well or not so well they do it.

If you want to start molding this in your own image of what it should be... count me out. ?I signed up for the open discussion and freedoom of speech that was the *DAMN General Gossip Forum, not for the Elm Street PTA version that burns copies of Tom Sawyer because it has the word "nigger" in it that you seem to want to turn this into.

BTW, You notice that we never had any issues between Ace, Wrath and myself before you came along? ?You've just proven an old theory I subscribe to... Don't give power to those that ask, only those that don't want it. ?Ace, Wrath and I were asked to do this, we didn't ask for it. ?We do it for Mauti, to the standards he laid out for us at the time. ?If we want to change anything beyond that, we at least try to talk to the others first. ?But for the most part, we don't want to change anything from the way it was before us, so there's not much to do besides deleting the spam, cliping some multiple posts, yanking a phone number or warez comment out of a post.... that sort of thing. ?

You, on the other hand, started this in the Battle League Forums and then continued on here in your crusade to make this in your image. ?Instead of helping the moderators with the issues, you wanted more power (They found that offensive I'm sure, as I read it more then once). ?After you asked and were added as a moderator here you went on a spree of locking and deletions, which you finally had backed away from... now you are back on the crusade. ?Your locking and editing and censorship are offensifve to me and to Ace (probably to Wrath as well, but I haven't heard him chime in yet, so wont speak for him). ?Does that mean I should start deleting your posts right and left?

You said you wouldn't be locking the Anti-AK stuff, then you've locked this thread more then once.... ?and jumped in on AK's side. ?Why not let AK handle it? ?They seem to be doing a good job so far. ?

As for offensive... should I have been editing Rapid's rants from a short while back? ?How about the insults he's made about my wife? ?If you say yes, then why? ?Him insulting my wife just shows what a dumbass he is and what he will stoop to. ?Why should you intercept that message and soften it for him before I get the chance to see it? ?That does everyone a diservice.

You want to put Kit Kat in his place... Ass him. ?Show what an idiot he is being. ?Deleting and locking honest gripes just because the poster is an idiot is just wrong.

Acceptable:
    Rapid, you jerk, you sneak away from another CB with us.

    Rapid, you flaming asshole, you coward, you ran away from another CB with us.

    Rapid, you felching, sperm gurgling butt whore, you fucking run away from another CB, you are a fucking coward you piece of shit.

    Rapid, you are an asshole (I'd ask for context here... but ok)


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    asshole

    Rapid is asshole! Rappid is asshole!  Rapid is asshole! Rappid is asshole!  Rapid is asshole! Rappid is asshole!  Rapid is asshole! Rappid is asshole!  Rapid is asshole! Rappid is asshole!  Rapid is asshole! Rappid is asshole!  


The unacceptable fall under the categaory of SPAM, which would make them unacceptable (just asshole isn't directed at anyone, repeating the same thing over and over..)  The only difference in the first ones is how much of an ass I wanted to be in them.  They all had the same message.  People would then judge me by how I handled it, as they should.

You see the difference?

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« Reply #58 on: May 03, 2002, 09:45:23 am »

Hmm, grift, I do see ur points, but u say calling some1 names is acceptable as long as it's not spamming. Now if I would come here and tell Kit kat that his language is iriitating to me, yo get the fuck out [Blatant racism is not acceptable. Ace] fuck.. then I would be considered a racist. But what is actually the difference between calling some1 an asshole and a stupid [Blatant racism is not acceptable. Ace] fuck? Both are offencive, and just coz one thing has 2 do with skin color, it means it should be locked. I don;t get that. I mean, either u go for it all the way, but don;t go in it half the way. I know ur a moderator, and I know Bondo isn't doing it like I would be doing... But still, calling some1 a
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felching, sperm gurgling butt whore, you fucking run away from another CB, you are a fucking coward you piece of shit.

isn't exactly nicer then simply calling some1 a black fuck.. But, correct me when I'm wrong... (again). Wink

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« Reply #59 on: May 03, 2002, 10:02:31 am »

bondo was right when he locked this thread the first time.  i saw that this thread could go nowhere but down hill, and it did, fast
i encourage one of the moderators to lock this thread and keep it locked. the others should leave it be.   now we have moderators fighting just like we were during the ak controversy. arent you supposed to be the level headed ones?
take a chill pill, lock this thread, and leave it alone.  that goes for both of you
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