RS or GhR???!?!

[Agent Wallabie]

Ok what do you think  

   Spike  

RS ?>            <? GhR

[tasty]

I've never been a proponent of switching to something new just for the novelty of it. after all, "If it ain't broken, don't fix it."  Obviously many people play GhR over RS, but do you actually prefer it? There seems to be a stigma that once a new game comes out, whatever old games were popular must die as a matter of procedure. This doesnt really make any sense.  I say keep playing RS because the gameplay is infinetely superior? who likes tactics anyway? My favorite tactic is shooting people in the face. Ghost recon is too much of a departure from what I loved about Tom Clancy games for my tastes? I hope splinter cell is good, i havent played it yet.

[MainMaN]

Hmm.. im gona go with rs.. cause 1st of all my system can run it but yes  i have played ghr.. and i find it 2 be a camping/sniper game......... i dont really like it.... + the bugs

[Flame]

The bugs? There are more bugs in RS then GhR. Also it may be a sniping/camping game, but if you know how to rush, you can easily take care of that. GhR pwns RS.

[Mattster]

Well i prefer RS because I cant handle GhR on my comp. unless i lower the graphics (which sux) so i dont play it much. Also i only have the demo so whats the use.

RS                         GhR  

[Jeb]

I really don't care if you like RS more, with more people switching to osX fewer people will play RS.
oh btw RS IS BORING AS ALL HELL, at least that is my fealing after almost 2 years of playing it. GHR is a new system and it combines many things i like about other fps games such as respawns. GHR is more team based than RS, flanking and other tactics are more important.
oh yeah and certain people don't play it

[KoS PY.nq.ict]

I must agree with Jeb. After a little over 2 years of RS the game has become...played out. It's mainly humpage and a bunch of mp bound messages. Ghr is fresh and a little more challenging. There's no bs rushes or those convenient glitches to screw with the gameplay. Its all about tactics.

[Typhy]

oh btw RS IS BORING AS ALL HELL

There is one simple reason that people think this, it isn't how long they've played, it's how competive they are at it. The reason I never find RS boring is simple: I'm not the best that I can be. As long as I can still get better, as long I die sometimes, I can always get better. - Thats what makes RS never boring for me, and for many other people.

Personaly, the only reason I ever play GhR is because it runs in OSX. I prefer the RS style gameplay far better, I hate the GhR guns, and I find it boring as all hell.

[KoS PY.nq.ict]

oh btw RS IS BORING AS ALL HELL

As long as I can still get better, as long I die sometimes, I can always get better.  

Typhy....if you never died in rs that would be considered cheating. It's impossible for anyone to not die without cheating.

NEWSFLASH
RS is dying. Maybe not for you or your clan but for 70% of RS players. You go ahead and continue playing a dying game with a dying clan. It'll keep you out of our games  

[Jeb]

So aparently all the great Rs players who left to play GHR weren't competative? Typhy you have to understand that no matter how great a game was, people move on, example being;
6 years ago bigpat and I would play escape velocity and atempt to beat each others scores, then something magical happened, we got better computers and realized that there are better games.
There will always be a few people who sit back and talk trash about the new games because either they suck (like bondo and RS), or want attention for not playing the game (ace and RS).

[MacMan]

Posted by: Flame Posted on: December 05, 2002, 11:24:51 PM
The bugs? There are more bugs in RS then GhR. Also it may be a sniping/camping game, but if you know how to rush, you can easily take care of that. GhR pwns RS.  

so you think there are no bugs in GhR? lmao. there's such a shitload that i'm glad those maps are so big, or else people would be able to find one spot and kill all.
Still, i liked, no, loved RS, but now that i have Jaguar, it's just too tiresome to reboot into OS 9 everytime, so GhR is the way i will go. Especially with the new mac i'm getting  

[0 Kilz:M:]

Each of the two games has it's high and low points. It all depends on the mood Im in at the moment....do I wanna play a fast paced Swat team style game, or a more methodical hunt your prey type game. But I can say the weapons in Ghr own ( Typhy must not like the fact that you actually have to aim and their is no spray and pray bullshit guns like the pdw). Plus some ghr mods give ya better guns and better maps..so w/e.

They are both great games in their own regards, you don't have to choose one over the other....duh!

Over, Kilzo

[PsYcO aSsAsSiN]

Ghost Recon is superior to RS, hands down.

As for bugs, there are many...but I will leave Jebugdia and his bughunters crew to figure that one out. Fine, I'll give you a hint on one...trenches in the Farm.

[Flame]

Ya i know there are bugs, hell lion found one in the castle map for the demo, but if you READ MY POST CAREFULLY i say that there is more bugs in RS then in GhR (well at least for now).

[Cossack]

GhR is the better one. I noticed some oh you dont like it because its not just a shoot the guy's face game. The fact that you have to hold ridges, crawl through grass, storm hills in order to accomplish your objective is fun as a mother fucker. Not to mention it requires strategy and a brain, wich  many of you people do not have. It is not that much of a sniper/camping game. Yes there are maps like farm and tank where you do camp and snipe. There are also other maps like Embassy and Vilnus wich require some advancing. Also a word from the wise. It is not good to rush, but you can move. Their is such a thing as walking wich dramaticly lowers your ret.  SO it is not all camp and GhR handles the lagg alot better than RS does. I can actually play the game on a 56k, unlike RS where it laggs up every 5 seconds (for me atleast).

[bronto]

LOLOLOL COSSACK'S QUOTE FROM MATTSTER!

Anyway, i have played both, multiplayer and single player (ghr with pc users ) and i found i still like rogue spear. But, personal opinion doesn't really matter too much when you're debating over which for yourself. I say it's more of a question of what kind of game you like, as said before, because they are very different.

Rogue Spear: Fast paced, less realistic.
Ghost Recon: Slower paced (more tactical, not camping), and more realistic (better graphics to add to the realism.)

That's how you should judge the games to make your choice, wallabie.



meow

[EUR_Zaitsev]

RAINBOW SIX FOR LYFE BIZZATCHES

[Typhy]

To start, there is no "Better one". If Ghost Recon was the exact same as RS with just better graphics, then it would be the "Better one" because it would be superior.

"Ghost Recon is superior to RS, hands down." - Ok, so if I'm looking for a swat team style of fast paced gameplay, I should play Ghost Recon? If I want the close quarter combat, and good small maps that can be played nicely in 1v1s, I should play Ghost Recon? Thats what you're saying? If you say that Ghost Recon is superior, you'd better specify what about it is superior.

"RS is dying. Maybe not for you or your clan but for 70% of RS players. You go ahead and continue playing a dying game with a dying clan. It'll keep you out of our games" - Blah blah blah, "RS is dying" blah blah. A dying game is one that has been replaced by a far superior game in all ways, and the only people who still play it are the ones with bad computers who can't run the new one. RS is not a dying game. There are players like myself and many others with computers that can run Ghost Recon extremely well with all settings on high, who simply perfer the RS style of gameplay. We've done CBs at RS since GhR came out, and I've never had any problems finding Rogue Spear hosts. - Just thought I'd throw this in: I can own you anytime at Ghost Recon.

"Typhy....if you never died in rs that would be considered cheating." - Perhaps I wasn't clear, I mean that as long as I don't go 100 games in a row without a death, and getting kills every game, and just dying every hundered or so games on a fluke bad nade; then I can still get better. Thats what makes me want to still play, thats what makes it not get boring, the fact that I can still get better. I hate mods, I hate all things that try and change the style of gameplay on RS from what it normaly is. The simple reason, I find how it is just find, not boring at all, simply because I can still become better.

"So aparently all the great Rs players who left to play GHR weren't competative?" - You missed the point in what I said Jeb, that part of my post was in reference to your saying that RS is "Boring as hell". Thats what I keep playing, because I can still become better. That wasn't in reference to Ghost Recon. All of the great RS players who went to Ghost Recon are just people who found a game that they like better than Rogue Spear, and I have nothing against that.

I appriciate your using examples to try and prove your point ( No sarcasmn ). In this case though, it doesn't work because of what my post actually said. "6 years ago bigpat and I would play escape velocity and atempt to beat each others scores, then something magical happened, we got better computers and realized that there are better games. " - Yes, I am saying that Ghost Recon all around isn't a better game than Rogue Spear. It has it's advantages, such as OSX support, and better graphics. However, for someone like me who loves the close combat, and swat team style play of RS, Ghost Recon isn't the right game.

"There will always be a few people who sit back and talk trash about the new games because either they suck (like bondo and RS), or want attention for not playing the game (ace and RS)." - There is a difference between the move from R6 to RS, and the potential move from RS to GhR. RS was like a new version of Rainbow Six, with a few changes that people disliked such as more acurate guns, and the extreme abilities of the PDW. RS to GhR is totally different. Ghost Recon is an army style game, where as RS is a tactical swat team style game. The people who like the RS/R6 style of game will stay at RS.

Kilzo, I agree with most of your post. In response to the guns bit of it; yes, I perfer the RS guns, yes, they're less realistic, but I find them more fun. I hate having to either sidestep, or wait for the reticule in GhR, it takes away from the pace of the game and makes it slower paced, which I guess it what lots of you guys like.

Cossack brings up all the key points that many people like better about Ghost Recon. The only thing I can say in response to that is that some of us like the RS style of gameplay more. - Good points and good post Cossack.

Please pardon spelling, punciation, or gramatical errors in this post, I'm rather in a hurry. Thanks guys

[PsYcO aSsAsSiN]

If you are looking for fast paced, get the smaller modded maps - don't use it as an excuse to stay with an inferior game.

But from what I have seen in general, people like sticking with RS because:

A) Ghost Recon reticules are too hard for them to adjust to
B) There is no lame weapons like the PDW
C) They don't know squat about tactics
D) They are afraid they will suck at Ghost Recon even though they thought they were good at RS.

The only real excuse anyone really could have for not switching to Ghost Recon is that their computer cannot handle it.

Anyway, if you want to get a jump on Raven Shield, you better get used to Ghost Recon...the reticlues get huge whenever you start moving around and fire more than one bullet at a time.

As for Cossack: From what I have heard, you guys can't get too many people in a game...this is a shame. If you could get a decent amount of people in a game (16-20), you could duke it out in a siege brawl.

[Typhy]

No Sin, I simply perfer my PDW, and dislike the GhR guns.

"B) There is no lame weapons like the PDW" - I can take 95% of the people who use the PDW, with the HK MP5A4.

"D) They are afraid they will suck at Ghost Recon even though they thought they were good at RS." - I've played Ghost Recon a fair ammount. It has much less lag than RS, and I am quite good at it. I was the kill leader on my team over half the time when I played.

"A) Ghost Recon reticules are too hard for them to adjust to" - 100% true. The Ghost Recon reticules are very hard to adjust to, and I was only somewhat able to, I stopped short of learning them better when I realized how much better I like RS than GhR.

"The only real excuse anyone really could have for not switching to Ghost Recon is that their computer cannot handle it." - Or they simply hate the gameplay and find it boring as all hell? Yeah, thats a good reason too. I have an 800 Powerbook g4, as well as a Dual 1.25GHZ and an 867g4.  All of which run GhR great. I simply dislike the gameplay, I'll add more to this later, as I go to play some RS with my AK's.