WTF IS WRONG WITH U !

[AK_Rap1d]

Task has 5 ex-ak's heheheeehe And 4 left ?not because of Grof ?left because they wanted to start there own clan and the other (me) GOt booted twice

Thank You Night Hawk. ?TASK has 5 of |?K|'s Newest Recruits. ?Big Deal:O ?They want to live by their own rules and learn from the #1 clan. ?No Biggie. ?If anything, I should've caught that earlier and booted them from our clan(So that would be my bad). ?Instead, they learned, asked questions and trained with the #1 Players that made it to the top from scratch. ?Smart bunch if you ask me

See Gorf, you got nothing on me and never have, and never will. ?Now go pop your pimples and cuddle with your boyfriends and keep scheming away... ?You obviously made an ass out of yourself with all your false claims(lies) and that will be something hard for you to outgrow or have us forget since you're still on it and don't get the big picture...

Gorf = Fucken Idiot & Owned:

[AK_Kilzo]

This is sometihng I absolutely 100% agree with Rapid on!!!

Gorf you act like such a nOOb....LMAO, just goes to show how completely stupid he is.

And just so you know, we left ?K to form our own clan, that's it, period. Dork had nothing to do with it, I don't even know where or why he would think it since I never even speak to his sorry ass.

And Rapid, yes you did train us, but no, you should'nt have booted us...it's all good:)

And people please quit saying ?K is dead, just because a few guys branched off to do their own thing is no big deal. ?K has plenty of talented players and Im sure they always will, you guys just wish they would die off.

Fuckin drama....

[Bondo]

DAMN is about the only clan that hasn't had many people leave (we just recruit and they go inactive ).  Most clans lose players and gain players and then finally the leader leaves and the clan is no more.  So to assume they left because of something other than wanting to leave is absurd.  I think it was a good thing, break up that AK powerhouse.  You have one clan AK, who trains players who form two clans STFU and TASK and they add players and train them and they start  new clans and then we have a number of great clans.  Just the natural progression.

[AK_Rap1d]

Thank You Bondo ?

I guess you're right Kilzo, I shouldn't have booted you guys, otherwise we would still be beating you 6-1 like in your <SAS> days ?Now we have fun competition with people we get along with and can grow this BL into a fun place to have CB's. ?Let's all keep up the good work and get down with some competitive, close combat, championship CB's for this coming season in RS. ?Great Job Everyone and Thank You for pointing out the greatness that has come out of our clan ?Our great efforts and game play really got its chance to rub off on others and we are happy to be responsible for the next generation's greatest. ?It is our pleasure to have done our part of contribution and have all you recognize it. ?Thank You all

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?<You guys make me sooooo proud>

Thank You all and I really really mean it. ?This place is all that and then some thanks to organized fair competition:D ?Keep Up the Good Work! ?And if you ever need help, don't hesitate asking me

[Grifter]

Man oh man, where to start now....

Grifter, it is really hard for me to understand how you claim I'm doing this on my own. ?All I did was talk to both sides to get the story and then submit the transcripts to Mauti (and Sin as well). ?I also told Mauti how I viewed the situation based on rules.

This looks like a good place to start...  OK, how I claim that you aren't working well with your other Admins (which is what I said)... you e-mailed them to Mauti and Sin... First, where's Nixon in that mix?  Second, why bring in Mauti from the begining when you hadn't even talked to Sin or Nixon yet?  That would be a prime example of what I was talking about.  Thanks for demonstrating it.

I'm just trying to do my fucking job here Grift but you and Ultimo seem dead set in convincing people that I'm not doing it right.

Bondo, maybe because some of us don't think you are doing it "right".  And I wouldn't limit that list to just me and Ult... I see posts by Ace and Sin in here as well...  

?About Mauti not making a decision, he had made a decision that he e-mailed me about this morning, but that changed with some additional info Ult provided (which he didn't give me last night despite me giving plenty of time).

LOL, bullshit.  If you had given it plenty of time, all this would have come out.  That was a big part of what I said I thought went wrong here....  Instead of giving this a chance to resolve itself, you tried to deal with it at 1am, while tempers were still hot.  Like I've said before "swift justice usually isn't just"...  

Sorry Grifter, but you are being a fucking asshole here just like Ultimo, Gorf, and Rebel. ?Until this moment I was being very polite just stating my case and not succuming to name calling despite having a handful of people throwing all sorts of insults at me.

Well, I think I laid out my position pretty well... no insults, or name calling...  so, fuck you and your opinion of me Bondo you hypocrite (thought you respected having the spine to disagree with your fellow admins, you asshole).  I'm a fucking asshole for thinking that you didn't handle yourself well (again)... blow me.

And the fact that KoS has been a clan for a long time and a successful one at that doesn't affect a decision on a rules violation, the question of whether they violated the rules is what matters. ?That is all I'm trying to get at here.

I don't think I said anything about showing favor to KoS because of their history... I think I said that it was a fucked up situation on both sides of this CB right from the get go, and that's why I thought that it should be finished.  That I think both sides could have done it better.  I don't think the rules violation was as clear as you make it sound.  That was my position.  What you could do is show Ultimo a little more respect... along with a bunch of other people.  Like Ace said, you walk around with a huge ego... like you are better then your fellow moderators.  I think every moderator here has earned their respect, try showing some.  

And don't pretend that Ult or KoS is leaving over "maybe losing a CB"... they've lost before and taken it... Ultimo made it clear that it was you that was behind his decision.  

Oh, and one more point about you "doing your job"... it seems to me you couldn't wait to let Nixon or Sin do their job... this hadn't made it into the problem drop box yet (STFU and KoS could have still worked this out themselves)  I thought Mauti was pretty clear that you were supposed to leave the day to day stuff in the hands of the other Admins...  but you jumped into this one both feet and and a big ass hurry.  Why?  Mauti's instructions not clear??  You have something against all your fellow BL admins that you want to cast judgement over them??  First Nixon, now Ultimo... who's next, Me, Ace or Wrath??

[Bondo]

Man oh man, where to start now....



This looks like a good place to start... ?OK, how I claim that you aren't working well with your other Admins (which is what I said)... you e-mailed them to Mauti and Sin... First, where's Nixon in that mix? ?Second, why bring in Mauti from the begining when you hadn't even talked to Sin or Nixon yet? ?That would be a prime example of what I was talking about. ?Thanks for demonstrating it.


Sorry, at least for the moment the talking to Nixon boat has sailed. ?And I'm glad that sending information to Mauti is now considered an abuse of power. ?Sorry, but none of the stuff you said above shows me doing anything wrong.


Bondo, maybe because some of us don't think you are doing it "right". ?And I wouldn't limit that list to just me and Ult... I see posts by Ace and Sin in here as well... ?


Sin didn't say that, and Ace doesn't really matter. ?From you it was first I was changing a punishment I asked the admins for to a lesser thing, then it was for not consulting them (but not making a decision in that) and now it is for not talking to the right admins. ?When will your bullshit stop Grift.


LOL, bullshit. ?If you had given it plenty of time, all this would have come out. ?That was a big part of what I said I thought went wrong here.... ?Instead of giving this a chance to resolve itself, you tried to deal with it at 1am, while tempers were still hot. ?Like I've said before "swift justice usually isn't just"... ?


Well, when I left Ult he had nothing left to say to me so I'd call that plenty of time. ?And Mauti's original plan was going to give it a chance to resolve itself, but you wouldn't know about that. ?Just because I got the stories doesn't mean a judgement was going to be made immediately.


Well, I think I laid out my position pretty well... no insults, or name calling... ?so, fuck you and your opinion of me Bondo you hypocrite (thought you respected having the spine to disagree with your fellow admins, you asshole). ?I'm a fucking asshole for thinking that you didn't handle yourself well (again)... blow me.


Yes you are Grift, because you are wrong and haven't said anything of what I did here that wasn't proper actions for me to take.


I don't think I said anything about showing favor to KoS because of their history... I think I said that it was a fucked up situation on both sides of this CB right from the get go, and that's why I thought that it should be finished. ?That I think both sides could have done it better. ?I don't think the rules violation was as clear as you make it sound. ?That was my position. ?What you could do is show Ultimo a little more respect... along with a bunch of other people. ?Like Ace said, you walk around with a huge ego... like you are better then your fellow moderators. ?I think every moderator here has earned their respect, try showing some. ?

And don't pretend that Ult or KoS is leaving over "maybe losing a CB"... they've lost before and taken it... Ultimo made it clear that it was you that was behind his decision. ?

Oh, and one more point about you "doing your job"... it seems to me you couldn't wait to let Nixon or Sin do their job... this hadn't made it into the problem drop box yet (STFU and KoS could have still worked this out themselves) ?I thought Mauti was pretty clear that you were supposed to leave the day to day stuff in the hands of the other Admins... ?but you jumped into this one both feet and and a big ass hurry. ?Why? ?Mauti's instructions not clear?? ?You have something against all your fellow BL admins that you want to cast judgement over them?? ?First Nixon, now Ultimo... who's next, Me, Ace or Wrath??


Well, I jumped into it because I was the first admin online to to get the information. ?I didn't rush into it, I took my time getting the information and then I handed it to the two people that I would hand it to, Mauti and Sin. ?And don't be stupid, you, Ace, Ultimo, and Sin all have just as big of egos so don't give me a lecture on that. ?And about respecting Ult, why should I do that when all I'm getting from him is that he hates me and that I should burn in hell, not something a respectful person says. ?And yet, I have been respectful of Ult. ?I got his side of the story just as much as STFU's, I just happened to think the rules favored STFU, that isn't being disrespectful. ?And I had respect for all of the moderators until you all started acting like idiots (Sin and Wrath excluded).

[.vooDoo.]

man, this thread took a detour off the subject matter like all threads....btw. anyway we can get rid of the quote link, some ppl. seam to abuse it..cough grif cough bondo

[Brain]

i think bondos ego has something to do with his massive post count

now, why dont we all take a 1 day break from bitching each other out, and come back when we aren't all seing red

also, there is one problem that i see with the whole ak breaking off into task and stfu,
how the hell am i going to get in the top 3 ?

[Grifter]

I never said abuse.... I believe I said you show a lack of respect... ?you were supposed to let Nixon and Sin handle it. ?Remember... you are supposed to be dealing with the new league rules while letting the other three deal with "normal" BL admin stuff... ?yet you don't let them. ?As for you not talking to Nixon... deal with it pal. ?Nixon is your peer and equal. ?Mauti chose to keep him here, you now owe it to him to keep him in the loop. ? ?That is the core of my problem with you Bondo... you just make this shit up as you go... ?Oh, I'm Bondo, I can do what I want here, regardless of anybody else...

Sin didn't say that, and Ace doesn't really matter. ?From you it was first I was changing a punishment I asked the admins for to a lesser thing, then it was for not consulting them (but not making a decision in that) and now it is for not talking to the right admins. ?When will your bullshit stop Grift.

Bondo, it's all the same issue you moron. ?You don't keep undermining your peers.... you did it with the AK judgements... you did it with Nixon... you are doing it now. ?You take it upon yourself to be the leader here instead of working as a team. ?It's your bullshit that needs to stop. ?I'm just pointing the shit out. ?And yes, Ace's opinion matters... so does Ult's, Sin's Mine and Wrath's (and many others). ?You see... even when I don't agree with them, they are still my peers and I still should respect them.
As for you giving it ample time and Mauti letting things run it's course (yes, that's what Mauti was trying... too bad you weren't)

Now you are just full of shit again Bondo... this is just like when you "suggested" that AK not be allowed to post in General Gossip. ?Your "suggestions" sound just like DECISIONS to everyone else. ?I read your posts and your transcripts. ?In the STFU one, you even said it had to go through the other admins (Nix and Sin)... then you talk to Ult and start accusing him... ?He asked you to talk to him as an equal... you should have. ?He is your equal. ?He knows he doesn't get a vote in the fucking decision, that doesn't mean you treat him with less respect you arrogant asshole. ?

You think I didn't say anything you did wrong..??

OK, let me try to use small words so your little mind can try to understand them dipshit. ?What you did wrong was

1) told STFU to post it as a win before talking to Ult at all (from your transcripts)
2) Jumped into it in the first place instead of letting Sin and Nixon try to work it out (like I said before, aren't you supposed to leave it to them first?)
3) In your conversation with STFU, you were quick to place blame on KoS. ?You didn't even ask if they tried other hosts (again, from your transcript). ?It was clear that you had already formed an opinion.
4) Instead of directing them to Sin and Nixon... or you talking to Sin and Nixon, you decided to bring Mauti in from the start.... exactly why is that I ask again? ?Mauti gave the Admins the ability to deal with this... why wont you work with them?? ?Mauti is who is gone to when it can't be worked out at this level.... or why would there be Admins at all?

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And don't be stupid, you, Ace, Ultimo, and Sin all have just as big of egos so don't give me a lecture on that. ...And I had respect for all of the moderators until you all started acting like idiots (Sin and Wrath excluded).

First, don't give me that ego shit... your ego is only surpassed by Rapid around here...

Second, you have not ever been respectful of the rest of us in my opinion... hell, I give Sin and Ult a complament, and you get bent out of shape that you weren't included... You talk about the rest of us not wanting to do our jobs (because we don't happen to agree with you). ?You are the only one here that doesn't seem to be able to work with the rest of us... for all of us having big ego's.. we can sure work together fine... (there goes that theory of yours). ?Instead of coming in here like the big bad and acting better then us, you should have come in like a normal fucking human being.

What you fail to realize in your ignorant way is that I don't have a problem with the fact that you THINK it should go against KoS... I just disagree with that. ?What I have a problem with is that you still can't fucking work well or play well with others (your peers). ?You should have sent the info on the Sin and Nix... or talked to them about it... gotten their opinion on it... then if you guys couldn't agree... then you go to Mauti to figure it out. ?By undermining the system, you are being disrespectful to Sin and Nixon.

[Grifter]

Brain,

The way to get the the top in the current BL structure is to just keep CB'ing every chance you get.  Better to CB as high of clans as you can.  At least with STFU and TASK, they sure seem to CB anyone (and I really appreciate that attitude).  But you don't have to beat the higher ranked clans to get there... you just have to CB enough and win enough to earn points.

[Grifter]

DAMN is about the only clan that hasn't had many people leave (we just recruit and they go inactive ). ?Most clans lose players and gain players and then finally the leader leaves and the clan is no more. ?So to assume they left because of something other than wanting to leave is absurd.

Sorry, missed this crap earlier...

Bondo, DAMN isn't the only clan that hasn't had many people leave... shows what you know about RS clans...  Not enough to keep you from talking out of your ass.

Second... your statement about left  because of something other then wanting to leave is bullshit in the highest order...  Gorf could be right or wrong in his assumption (definately wrong in Kilzo's case)... but what you said makes no sense... Gorf was presenting the REASON behind the WANTING to leave... you don't just want to leave... you have a reason for that want... ie, didn't get to CB enough... or didn't like Rapid... or just tired of AK and wanted to be in a new clan with a buddy... those are all reasons.  If you want to mock Gorf for his assumption that he was that reason, that's all hunky dory... but trying and failing to talk down to him just made you look like a bigger pompus ass.  Assuming that they all had reasons for wanting to leave is not absurd.... thinking that they would take that action without reasons is what's absurd... but then, I guess you make decisions without thinking all the time, and that would be the basis of your thinking there.

[+-KoS-+ Gorf]

They want to live by their own rules and learn from the #1 clan.

lol...  The #1 clan.   I can't wait till the BL point system is changed and then everyone will see where you really belong on the ladder.

And Rapid we challenge you to a cb the minute i get home.  (This saturday.)  Of course we all know you are going to decline it and say something like "No because you are an asshole to me and my clan so we won't cb you", but it's ok rapid, we all know you are scared to cb us because of how badly we raped you the last time  

Cheers 8)

[Bondo]

Sorry, missed this crap earlier...

Bondo, DAMN isn't the only clan that hasn't had many people leave... shows what you know about RS clans... ?Not enough to keep you from talking out of your ass.

Grifter, it was a fucking joke when have you seen a when it hasn't been.

[Grifter]

Maybe you should learn where to put that  ... as it was in the comment about inactive, not about clans having people leave.

[Bondo]

First off, In this incident Ult was the leader of the involved clan and not an admin so I spoke to him as the situation required.  Also, it isn't my fault if you read my suggestions as decisions, don't blame me for your stupidity.  And I never said it would have to go through Nixon, just admin review which to me is Sin and Mauti because I'm not to work with Nixon.


You think I didn't say anything you did wrong..??

OK, let me try to use small words so your little mind can try to understand them dipshit. ?What you did wrong was

1) told STFU to post it as a win before talking to Ult at all (from your transcripts)
2) Jumped into it in the first place instead of letting Sin and Nixon try to work it out (like I said before, aren't you supposed to leave it to them first?)
3) In your conversation with STFU, you were quick to place blame on KoS. ?You didn't even ask if they tried other hosts (again, from your transcript). ?It was clear that you had already formed an opinion.
4) Instead of directing them to Sin and Nixon... or you talking to Sin and Nixon, you decided to bring Mauti in from the start.... exactly why is that I ask again? ?Mauti gave the Admins the ability to deal with this... why wont you work with them?? ?Mauti is who is gone to when it can't be worked out at this level.... or why would there be Admins at all?

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1.  I told them to post the win but I wasn't planning on it being recorded, but for there to be a complaint, there must be a reported score as the basis so I was entirely correct to ask them to report the score.  I can't believe you are so anxious to prove I'm wrong that you'd pick that which is obviously the correct move.

2.  Once again, I was the one there and they wanted me to listen, and as I'm an admin I did my job by listening.  And then I did my job by sending the transcripts to Sin and Mauti.

3.No, I was just saying that if what they say is true than KoS would be at blame, I never said that is how it was, but you can't judge everything from a transcript can you.  And STFU told me that none of the other players could host, why ask.  Being someone who can't host why should I doubt them (yes, you told me how Grifter but that doesn't mean I can host at this moment).

4.  I contacted Sin and Mauti because Ult obvious wasn't going to get it and I'm not to deal with Nixon.  Once again, you're really barking up the wrong tree saying it is wrong for me to contact Mauti about things.


Second, you have not ever been respectful of the rest of us in my opinion... hell, I give Sin and Ult a complament, and you get bent out of shape that you weren't included... You talk about the rest of us not wanting to do our jobs (because we don't happen to agree with you). ?You are the only one here that doesn't seem to be able to work with the rest of us... for all of us having big ego's.. we can sure work together fine... (there goes that theory of yours). ?Instead of coming in here like the big bad and acting better then us, you should have come in like a normal fucking human being.

What you fail to realize in your ignorant way is that I don't have a problem with the fact that you THINK it should go against KoS... I just disagree with that.

First off, I respected all of you until the DisneY vs. AK mess and it has just been a downhill slide for most of you since then.  I give respect when respect is due, but it is no longer due for you Grifter.  Also ego doesn't have anything to do with cooperation.  The reason I can't cooperate with anyone but Sin and Mauti is because you guys don't let me cooperate.  My first move as BL admin was to get AK a warning suspension, I contacted the three admins and moved ahead.  I was doing my best, but then you come in and criticise me for lessening my own initiative that I had full right to lessen and then get pissed at me suggesting a way to clean up the mess (radical as it may have been).  Sorry, I was the first person to be disrespected and for no reason, I was the first person to not be cooperated with.  You blame me for these things but the ties were severed on your end.  Also, I initially thought that the rules were showing that KoS was to blame based on my chats, but further talk from Ult changed that and I don't think either side should get the win, that is why we are having them finish it.  Sorry for making my suggestion based on all available evidence at the given time.

Finally, if I'm doing things so incorrectly, why am I well liked and trusted by pretty much every clan except KoS, Force, and I suppose SECT and Virus.  You call it disrespectful that I don't give credit to clans or players just because they've been high on the ladder or been around long, but that isn't something that should matter on a CB to CB basis.

[+-KoS-+ Gorf]

I think we have learned something from all this:

NEVER PLAY ON METH'S HOST UNLESS U F-ING LIVE IN HAWAII

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[+-KoS-+Rebel]

Guess what. The *DAMN BL is fuckin retarded. Ranks are messed up. Everything is messsed up. On the positive side, oh wait there isnt a positive side like usual

Anyone that
hate KoS

[Grifter]

Bondo, do you really believe all that shit you are spouting?  How come you seem to be the one that nobody can work well with... yes, even Sin was complaining about it, or can't you read his posts.

Listen, you were the one spouting that the BL admins weren't doing their job, so you had to step in (which was BULLSHIT).  You were the one that said that Ace, Wrath and me "didn't care" to actually moderate in the General Gossip... so don't sit there and lie to me about it.  Your head is that far up your ass that you can only talk in bullshit now....  Besides, Ace and I had nothing to do with the AK v DisneY bullshit, so you disrespecting us in that is just more of you being an arrogant asshole.

On the topic of talking to Ult.. you didn't talk to him the same way you talked to STFU... you talked down at him... there should be no talking down to anybody you dipshit.

On the topic of our being too stupid to not tell a suggestion from a command... maybe you should look at that.. if 5 other people heard it as a command, maybe you should learn to make your suggestions fucking clear asswhipe.

On the topic of you doing your job as Admin.. I don't agree, period.  You are supposed to let Nixon and Sin deal with it, but you don't.  Bypassing Nixon isn't doing your job, it's you making it up as you go along.

Bottom line, you just can't be a team player....  You don't work with anyone here at all.  Remember, we tried to "coach" you on how we handled things back when you first started.. you didn't want to conform at all... so fuck you.  You wanted to change things in your image without consulting any of the rest of us.. so fuck you again...

And if you refuse to work with Nixon, then you should remove your sorry ass from the Battle League, as you are doing it a disservice.  You refuse to work with 25% of the administration...  how is that right you pompus ass?  You don't agree with the decision that was made, so you wont accept it?  Bull-Fucking-Shit.  I'll fight that every step of the way.  You've caused a hell of a lot more problems then you've solved Bondo.  If you had just left this to Sin and Nixon, none of this current mess would have happened.

And don't get your hopes up... I wont just leave the Battle League because you chose to make this a pain in the ass.. I'll just be as big a pain in your ass as you are to us...  

[Bondo]

And if you refuse to work with Nixon, then you should remove your sorry ass from the Battle League, as you are doing it a disservice. ?You refuse to work with 25% of the administration... ?how is that right you pompus ass? ?You don't agree with the decision that was made, so you wont accept it? ?Bull-Fucking-Shit. ?I'll fight that every step of the way. ?You've caused a hell of a lot more problems then you've solved Bondo. ?If you had just left this to Sin and Nixon, none of this current mess would have happened.

And don't get your hopes up... I wont just leave the Battle League because you chose to make this a pain in the ass.. I'll just be as big a pain in your ass as you are to us... ?

You obviously didn't hear me Grifter, I'm not supposed to work with Nixon, I do my stuff he does his and Sin can talk to him.  So I'm not doing it a disservice, I'm doing my job.  And Grift, I never said you should leave the BL just like I never said Ult should.

[Brain]

On the topic of our being too stupid to not tell a suggestion from a command... maybe you should look at that.. if 5 other people heard it as a command, maybe you should learn to make your suggestions fucking clear asswhipe.

...

And don't get your hopes up... I wont just leave the Battle League because you chose to make this a pain in the ass.. I'll just be as big a pain in your ass as you are to us... ?

hey bondo, a little bit of wisdom to expand on grifters point here. it doesnt matter how you mean something when you say it, the only thing that matters is how it was recieved
so if every one interpreted your speach to be commands, it doesnt matter if you were 'suggesting' it, or not,it's a command. period. end of story.

and grifter, while your being a pain in bondos ass, can you please try to avoid making our lives a living hell.
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