Major Hostage Situation in Moscow

[|MP|Buccaneer]

To echo that thought.  Yes, I think that getting out of this with 10% of the hostages killed (more or less) is a remarkable win.  If I were on the inside, or had family on the inside, I like those odds a lot better then any other option.  Better to have the chance.

[(SiX)Ben]

Me n you and assassin are looking at it through statistics, not through actual human life. If you knew someone on the inside who had died you wouldn't be (most likely) "Ah well, 10% died. We were successful"

Ben

[Cossack]

I didnt know anyone on the inside but the theater was in the neighborhood I lived in. The families of the dead will be sad (no shit). The Team had a really tough job to do. They had to break into the entrances guarded by Chechens and laced with mines with out making an audible shot. Not to mention the Chechens probablly used some hostage as a human sheild. They have done this before in a southern Russian hospital where they held 1000 hostages. About 400 hostages and patients died as well as many interior forces soldiers. Judging from the past hostage situations, this was a true success.

[|MP|Buccaneer]

Actually, I'd still be grateful for the efforts that they put forth.  a 90% chance is more then I could have hoped for.  I'd also want the blood of the other terrorists.  But that's because I'm a vengful prick.

[PsYcO aSsAsSiN]

Ben, everyone knew that there was no one in hell that this would come out a situation where everyone is holding hands and singing "kum-bay-yah." The people inside are fortunate that the Russian forces came up with a plan to rout these terrorist assholes and prevent the explosion of the big bombs or else we would be talking about a complete failure with everyone dead - including numerous special ops troops.

While the loss of life is regretable, it is far less than I had anticipated the way teh terrorists had the place set up.

There will be a renewed and envigored push back into Chechnya because of this, and there will probably be hell to pay.

[(SiX)Ben]

No, I understand there wasn't a large loss of life, and frankly, I'm amazed... I just don't like to look at human death as statistics. Seems less valiable that way

Ben

[Cossack]

That is true. Yet there is really no other way to compare wether or not this operation is a success. Knowing that as soon as I am out of college I am going into the "Blue Barets" as an LT. I may be tied into this conflict and serve a few tours over there.

[(SiX)Ben]

What the hell... Now 90 died... Not 60!

Ben

[Cossack]

Holy shit!?!? I guess 90 died. Well it still went down better than I predicted. It is Russia, you never know if what Putin is telling you is true.

[PsYcO aSsAsSiN]

Very interesting, it now appears that the Russians used a chemical weapon on the Opera House by unleashing it through the vents. No wonder only one Alpha trooper was wounded and families aren't allowed to see the hostages that were set "free." I am sure this story will unfold more, but this news is very startling and the death toll might rise more.

[Cossack]

I heard we used fine particles of vallium. This will be very interesting, then again what else could they do.

[Cossack]

Now it is up to 115 wtf is going on in my country?

[PsYcO aSsAsSiN]

Like I said, hey used a chemical weapon. When I originally posted, the death toll was still at 90 so I am correct already. Anyways, something like 150 more people are in severe or critical condition still, and some of them might still die.

This seems to be a good article for those who want to keep up-to-date on the situation at hand.

[Cossack]

I think this situation is going to break Putin's political carrer. As of now I sure as hell am not voting for him.

[alaric]

While I applaud the initial strike by russian special forces, their government's respose after the strike was terrible. I can't imagine why they wouldn't at least provide an antidote for the gas. The whole handling of the situation with the victim's families is deplorable. Where is the leadership? A very well planned technical attack, but where is the crisis management?