BCS results - week 1 and beyond

[Bondo]

Bucc, you say that the only automatic can be conference champions?  Look at Notre Dame right now, if they get into the top 10 they get an automatic BCS berth, I think the other thing that qualifies them is 11 wins.

Ace, maybe I should cheer for UCS against ND...it sort of helps our strength of schedule (the strength of schedule of those we play is good for us afterall).  But I think CU will finish with one of the top 10 hardest schedules.  The only soft game we have left is Missouri, we'll have two against Oklahoma (counting the Big 12 Champ), Iowa State who despite sucking against both OU and UT still is worth something, and then Nebraska who isn't a horrible team to have, especially if they win until we play them.

What would be cool is if CU could play USC again in something like the Holiday Bowl or Cotton Bowl, you caught us at our very weakest fresh off a QB change and in a bit of unrest...since we've cemented that it has been solid victories.

[|MP|Buccaneer]

As far as the mess at the top goes, I really hope that at least 3 teams end the year undefeated, hopefully more. That way we can have ourselves a big ass controversy and be one step closer to a playoff system.

I'll back that.  And I could see 3 or 4 pretty easilly right about now (there's what 7 undefeated teams left, and only 1 of those has to lose?)

Bondo, do you even bother to read my posts.  If schools that are in small conferences don't have an automatic birth for winning their conference, there will still be holes.  Notre Dame is up there in the rankings, and would get a bid, but what about a team like Bowling Green.  Undefeated, but not ranked high enough to grab one of those last spots.  Just like Marshall or BYU in the past.  If they didn't make the cut, but never got beat, there would always be the flaw.  And you can't make the rule up by record, because that just brings in the same bullshit you have with the BCS now.

How you fix it is yes, you let all the conference champs in, plus the next 5 best teams by rank.  The only worry then would be an indipendant team that does well and isn't highly ranked.  If that's a problem, they should belong to, or be put in a conference.

[Bondo]

Do you even bother to read my posts...If a small conference team goes undefeated, they would automatically make it in.  Whether they are ranked high or their conference has an automatic bid for the winner regardless of record doesn't matter.  If they established a rule that says any conference champ with less than 2 losses automatically makes the championship, then there would be NO way for the team not to make it unless they had less than 2 losses.  And if they have 2 or more they don't deserve an AUTOMATIC bid and thus would have to make it by the rankings, this would go for any conference.

You are saying there is a gap in my system that just isn't there.  And I've pointed this out to you more than once.

[|MP|Buccaneer]

Do you even bother to read my posts...If a small conference team goes undefeated, they would automatically make it in.  Whether they are ranked high or their conference has an automatic bid for the winner regardless of record doesn't matter.  If they established a rule that says any conference champ with less than 2 losses automatically makes the championship, then there would be NO way for the team not to make it unless they had less than 2 losses.  And if they have 2 or more they don't deserve an AUTOMATIC bid and thus would have to make it by the rankings, this would go for any conference.

You are saying there is a gap in my system that just isn't there.  And I've pointed this out to you more than once.

The gap exists because there is the potential to have many teams with 0 or 1 loss.  You can't make a rule to cover all of them.  Hell, it's possible to have two teams in the same conference go undefeated.  Do you even grasp the idea of conferences, the importance of them, and how it would also help spread the wealth, all of which I've posted?

[EUR_Zaitsev]

Perdiction Rather then Want

Fighting Irish of the ND vs. The Hurricanal force of Miami

WANT:

  Id liek too see
UVA - make a bowl
Oregon- Make a high rated bowl
NCSU- lose a lot

[Bondo]

The gap exists because there is the potential to have many teams with 0 or 1 loss.  You can't make a rule to cover all of them.  Hell, it's possible to have two teams in the same conference go undefeated.  Do you even grasp the idea of conferences, the importance of them, and how it would also help spread the wealth, all of which I've posted?

As this 0 or 1 loss automatic bid would ONLY apply to those who win their conference, the most that could use it are the 11 conference champions.  Basically, at most it gets 11 teams in like you want, but it will prevent a conference winner from getting in just because they win their conference, they have to prove something by only losing 0 or 1 times.

[Deadeye]

ok bondo, now that you actually said it in a way that could close the loop, your idea still sucks.  conferences should mean something again.  since the bcs, they don't mean as much.  if the conference winner makes it in, regardless of score, it will draw more good players to different schools.  these smaller conferences will get more tv time, more exposure, more everything.  how is that a bad thing?

[Bondo]

Well, it may have sucked all along, but there wasn't a loop...you were creating that by not understanding it.