*NADS

[(SiX)Ben]

OMG Bucc. You're so sexy during speech and debate.

Ben

[0 Kilz:M:]

Well Buc, you seem to be an intellectual person who has some reason behind his statements. I just cant believe you dont see the point Im trying to make. I wont try and explain it any further since it would be wasted time. But the fact is, its not the right of DAMN to place judgement on peoples behavior outside of the BL. Thats free game.

Anyways, take care...Kilzo

[Typhy]

Kilzo, in the Battle League rules, it says that they have the right to punish any clan or player who acts unacpetably, refer to the battle league rules for the actual wording, because of this, the battle league has the right to boot Anarchy and ban *NADS, the reason for this is because their behavior was unaceptable and the offense was against another clan in the Battle League.

-Typhy

[|MP|Buccaneer]

Kilzo, I see your point, I just disagree with it.  That's all.  I think that if the DAMN Clan want to have a "no assholes allowed" policy, that's find and good, as long as everyone knows how to act.  But it always cuts both ways.  That may mean some clans wont be in the DAMN BL anymore because they don't like that kind of rule.  That's good too.  DAMN will be happy because things will be more civil here, and the other clans can find someplace more to the way they like things (this is pretty much the same argument for people that don't like how Evill handles GameRanger.  As long as it's free, you shouldn't be bitching too much, you should go someplace you like more.  If you can't find that place, make it or work to make it better.)

Ben, don't make me shave my ass for you.

[AK_Rap1d]

Typhy said it perfect.  I agree 200% with him.  

Kilzo, this is a private league ran by respectable old players.  They are trying to push that attitude to all clans out there and it's why they told us newbie clans(We don't compare to their time of existance, us 11 months, them 27 months) to calm down and show respect for each other by not spoofing and trying to ruin another clan's reputation by making outside websites!  I don't know if you have read throughly this situation, but if you would have, you definately wouldn't have missed that point Mauti made clear.  I respect that and see the logic behind it and it's why you didn't see me post a spoof site disrespecting other clans(Especially when I had more reason than ever!).  Now sure they are mad now because the punishment was handed down as warned, and they thought they could throw a freedom of speech defense, which in this case doesn't apply and has been explained by Buccaneer.  I for surely understand respect and it's why I know how to avoid it.  When characters like Jeb, Pyrex and a few of his followers come in trying to present a scenario, they are so bulgarant and abnoxious that is only clear on their whole purpose.  It's why it shouldn't surprise you that Jeb was involved in making that spoof site.  My point is, while I obviously avoid these problem children by ignoring them, they have to get "louder" to be heard by making stuff like a spoof site.  They don't caree about rules as long as they're being heard and stick together.  Well, this isn't greenpeace coming in here, these are kids taking personal attacks that I have many times disapproved off, and continue to do  so even after being warned on a clan ban!   Mauti is fair and presents himself with respect and I admire that of him and will follow those ways.  I have many times tried to talk to you people with respect, but all you do is disrespect me.  It's ok because in the end, you loose and I don't.  I am here to stay and let |?K| grow under your skin!  You won't forget us and you won't foget how much you've tried to fight the power of good!  You'll learn one day...  You got nothing on us.  Sorry *NADS, that you got offended that we beat you in CB the 4 times you've tried.  As if that's ground to start making spoof sites and making fun of our bragging rights.  Damn sore losers...

[Typhy]

Good points Rapid, you guys need to realize that there is only so far that you clanmates can go, before you just have to acept the punishment, the place where I earned much respect for Rapid as a leader was on the CF issue, he faught it as far as he could, but when it came down to it, the battle league has the athority to do what they feel is right, and you have to obey it, at the moment, the only one who can defend himself is Capt.

[(SiX)Ben]

I ask for lackage of the threadage until capt comes back, because truthfully... This is going no where. Moderators, you agree?

Ben

[Jeb]

Rapid,
cry me a river, build me a bridge and get over it.
By saying i "helped build" the AK hate site, is that an atempt to get us kicked out also? the story behind that was capt asked me to join his game and put some random noob name on and fabricate some sses. Big fuck'n deal, its not like i agreed to and acepted his plans when i did that, i didn't know about the site till a little before he put it up. Keep up the act infront of mauti, and keep up the talk on gr.
Typhy i could give a shit if you want to ignore me, infact its hardly my problem, just hope you got a new person to get ips off, but you won't have to worry about that for much longer...

When characters like Jeb, Pyrex and a few of his followers come in trying to present a scenario, they are so bulgarant and abnoxious that is only clear on their whole purpose.

You forgot the other 500 people who play Rs that hate you just as much.
jeb
ps. sin, i'll give you a big    if you figure out who imitated me.

[Cossack]

I suck at clan matters alot. But this is one of the statements that rapid makes. "Making that site in order to ruin our reputation." No offence Rapid, but could ?Ks reputation get any lower? Have you noticed that almost everyone on GR hates you? I have. I see tons of people that hate you and very few that like you. Now this does not give an excuse for Capt Anarchy to put up that site after he was warned. The Austrian Constitution lets Private orginizations do what they want as far as limiting people's speech on their property. This is Mauti and Bander's creation this is their property and they live in Austria, and as far as freedom of speech and press go in this site, consult the Austrian Constitution.

[*DAMN Mauti]

I only want to say more until I spoke with Capt about it.

In the meantime I'll work on a rule about mocking/impersonating/... with my BL admins.

[cookie]

You won't forget us and you won't foget how much you've tried to fight the power of good!  You'll learn one day...  You got nothing on us.  Sorry *NADS, that you got offended that we beat you in CB the 4 times you've tried.  As if that's ground to start making spoof sites and making fun of our bragging rights.  Damn sore losers...

Oh God, I'm still out of breath from laughing See, once again Rapid you bring up RS crap that's totally unrelative. "oh geez, the reason you're offended is we've beat you 4 times." ROFL.. this is funny because I never gave a damn. We were always good sports about CBs (even when you cheated us out of one) and now you claim we are "offended". Rapid, i could give a rats ass about clanbattles because to base your arguments on rogue spear is PATHETIC! Yes, PATHETIC. Take a few minutes to let that sink in. Anyway, I reaaaaally doubt Capt made that site because he was a "sore loser", I think he just made it because everyone hates your clan and all of GR would get a laugh out of it.

 Cookie, you give us permission to spoof *NADS? Thats not how it works, diffrent people take offense to diffrent things, |?K| is a clan to play and be the best that we can at Rogue Spear, so when someone makes a site like that showing fake losses etc, we do take offense to it. Where as, *NADS is a clan out there to have fun in a diffrent kind of way, what is fun to us is winning battles etc. We just have diffrent ideas of what "fun" is in terms of the Rogue Spear/Rainbow Six world.

Typhy, first discrepancy is how you said "fake losses". Yes, the losses were fake, but they were AH losses and not AK. Capt wasn't trying to make anyone believe those we're AK losses so this argument is totally stupid. That pretty much takes out your whole argument, unless you guys were offended by the homosexual content. The whole paragraph you wrote makes no sense, why would our different sense of fun make spoofing us impossible? If you wanted to make us ashamed, spoof something on us that we have fun doing because it works by the same token. Then again, I have the sneaking suspicion you might by covertly admitting that it is VERY hard to get us mad   (unless you get us suspended from the BL for joking around, muahahaa) This might be true, considering that *NADS is a good humored bunch that doesn't take things too seriously unless necessary I think this should be what makes a clan, the ability to truly have fun while kicking, or trying to kick, ass. So I invite you, once again, to take your best shot. Rapid, why don't you own up to your threats (notice he didn't respond to my invitation earlier) and make yourself a *NADS spoof site, because I wholeheartedly encourage and reinforce having fun and getting a few laughs in. Because after all, in the words of the great almighty Rapid, "It's a fucken game".

aiiiie, sorry, i had to write that :X it's early and i have nuffin to do

[0 Kilz:M:]

Typhy, please get over yourself. I am not challenging ?K in this matter, I am questioning what right *DAMN has in matters outside the BL. Just because I asked to rejoin and you guys said 6 months doesnt mean I am out to get you. I seriously could care less, and that post of my so-called quote from your forums were from a long time ago, Im perfectly happy with what I have going on now, so stfu. And if you start to dislike me bcause I am questioning authority, then you are stupid and I could give a shit. Everything should be challenged and questioned, at least then the answer you get will be well thought out and have reason behind it. I must say I am starting to see things from all sides now. But to just let it go and move on is the best thing here. I agree that Mauti has full authority in the BL, but anything outside of it, is none of his business. Thats not disrespect either Rapid, its my opinion, as we all have the right to one. Maybe I flew off the handle a bit in my first post, thats my bad. But this is such a sticky situation I want to make sure it is handled correctly, and fairly. Anyways, Im out of this one now....not my trouble so theres my 10?

Kilzo

[*DAMN Mauti]

About fun: You said you changed the name however everybody knows that you are pointing at AK and that of course is your intention. One clan sees such sites with humour and another only feels offended. And I think if someone requests to remove the site you should do so.

E.g.: A group of seniors threating a freshman has also fun. They feel strong when they annoy a weak person and did I mention they find it fun. However the freshman only feels offended and if he says stop with it please you should be man enough to stop.

I think if this site would have been made without background feelings even  some AKs would  find this site fun. But Ben as you mentioned this issue has a long story. So they don't see this site as you do.

In resonse to Kilzo:  Although the site doesn't has something to do with the BL it affects the BL and some clans in it.

The AH site makes fun about AK and probably also damages AK's reputation. May some of you say AK has no reputation but imagine if a newbie comes the first time to GR and sees the link to the AH site. Of course he is curious and visits the site. He had a good laugh when he comes back to GR he sees AK Rapid. He will associate AH Raped with AK Rapid and further he will be influenced about AK that they suck, that they are whining,.... It simple damages AK's reputation further it is an unnecessary provocation. I miss sportmenship.

I want to dissociate myself and the BL from such behaviour(kind of transfered competition). The BL is about a game and not about to start flame wars with each other.  Kilzo so I think it has something to do with the BL. The BL wants a fair competition between clans. That doesn't mean you have to like some all clans but you have to follow some rules if you want to be a part of this competition. Capt as well as Rapid has been warned that they are going to far.


I hope Capt is coming back soon.

Bye,

Mauti

[Cow]

i am not sure if anyone said this or not but, there is no excuse for a leader of a clan to act like that let alone twice, mb a chobo newb but a leader, TWICE? meh
-c0w

[|MP|Buccaneer]

Rapid, don't get too far up that high horse you seem to be on.  My comments apply to your web site as well.  After the AH site, the real AK site is probably the most disrespectful to other clans out of all the ones I've seen.  I could be wrong, there may be another bad one out there, but you are seriously casting stones while living in a glass house.  If you can justify your bashing on other clans with your web site, then anyone else can too.  

Kilzo, I didn't lose any respect for you in our exchanges, just to let you know.  You stated your opinion and listened to mine.  You showed respect and I give it back openly.  Disrespect is an attitude, not an opinion, and lots of people just don't know that.  So don't worry about them.  I disagree with you, but I still respect both your opinion and how you presented it.

[(SiX)Ben]

Rapid... No... We lost 1 cb in a 2 on 1. I mean, you guys had 2 players, and we had one... And we STILL almost won. Wow, that's something to brag about right there!

Would you like offencive?

Mauti:
"We just got in a beautiful shot of *R?p!d?* Slaughtering the good old geek"

"* March 11th * {IAM} TheCrow is now resorting to Nerdy Humor."

"Crow, you suck. Learn to play, then talk. Nerdy Essay Pranks = boring. "

"Your Deception = You're a Liar and lie to get people to like you and/or join your CLAN."

"Canadians = Cool. Crow = Idiot who wishes he was half as good as *R?p!d?*"

"After accepting the fact that they can't own us in RS, Crow has now resorted to his nerdy side, and got a masterplan together as good as the one from the boys from Lambda Lambda Lambda(like in movie "Revenge of the Nerds"), his personal close friends(only REAL friends he has) and has started writing essays on humor on *R?p!d?*, thinking that will even out the fact that {IAM} is so WEAK and owned by us |?K|'s. The whole thing is, he used his own Personal Pictures and Prank pulled on him, to use against |?K|'s *R?p!d?* and the truth of the matter is, that will never take away the fact that {IAM} sits so low on the BL Board. Sore Nerdy Loser."

"* March 7th * {IAM} Crow still crying out loud trying to deceive people on how much they really suck."

Now, these are just a FEW samples out of several. How is this not offencive? This is 100% worse then what we did, we were doing it as a joke, they did it as an insult.

We didn't wanna "tarnish" the AK's name... That is, unless you think we want to tarnish our name, (unts name, *DAMN's name, and FiRE's name. I mean, yes, the next spoof, frankly, is a DAMN spoof. A site called "DARN". Tell me, are you already offended?!

They claim the news site offended them. Wow, I understand how. I mean a clan named different then theres lost some cb's. Wow... It's offencive. Its like GONADS losing cb's... and NADS being offended. Both are different clans, both will most likely and are spoofs of the original. How is a spoof clan losing cb's (everyone knows thats not really them) an INSULT?!

I understand you are going to wait for Capt Mauti, but what else can be said? Bondo told me he knew who got us to put up the site (and he named the guy off) and then he continued to say that he messaged you with the information. The guy overruled what he told us before! So now, what possible topic can you discuss with Capt? If you wanna say he's trying to just insult AK, you're wrong... I would give you a link to the *DARN website, but it's not near enough to completion... This proves that it's not an insult, but a spoof. You may say Rapid and Typhy found it offencive... Which part? The NEWS part? OMG what a load of bs. (sarcasm)Yes, the news to a spoof clan is really real, just like all the jokes told on Saturday night live.. They are real. Yes, and everyone believes them.. (/sarcasm)

This is just one of AK's attempts to get rid of a fun clan in RS that everyone loves. I mean, lookinbg back at the arguing, I haven't seen one statement supporting AK besides the fact that you want to talk to Capt first, and that its a private site owned by DAMN... Everything has been counterred so many times that its getting boring. What else can be said?

Review: Spoof Site, DAMN*'s next so not a personal insult. AK's site is much more insulting then this. Their only support that holds up is that you want to talk to Capt, and that you own this and can do what you want as it's private.

Ben

[AK_Rap1d]

Nice Try Ben.  That was my response to IAM Crow's disrespect to myself and my clan in his website.  We kept it cool.  He went way further than I did.  I just told it from our point of view on our site without resorting to spoofing their site. *sigh*  Anyway, that matter was settled and you never heard us come in here making a deal out of it, so it's funny you feel the need to do so.  They decided to talk smack on us on their website and thought we wouldn't fire back.  We did everything accordingly and we never violated the old BL rules.  Things have changed and rules have changed.  Too bad that your stubborn mind has to try to reason with illegitimate logic.  We respect the rules and that's why cookie, we're not going to make a spoof site of *NADS even if you want me to or have your permission.  I respect Mauti's decision  and will support it by respecting it and not stooping to your clan's level.  All  you need to learn a lesson on manners and how to act in someone else's place.  If you go to anybody's house you don't know and you start acting like a jackass, the host of the house has all right to kick you out of his house.  This is Mauti's house.  Now respect it.

[Brain]

first of all, unles i missed something nobody has come forth as impersonating jeb, i would like to ask them to comeforeward ( this is your 2nd chance now you probabily wont get another)


now, on ak (and rapid) being distespectful.

first on the ak site, when they beat taf, they acted like they had just  beat a clan with a perfect cb record(the exact opposite was the case). while i do think that they  should have the right to celebrate, i think that respect be present as well, i mean you dont see kos taunting every clan it defeats on it's site, do you?

and just incase rapid doesnt like that little example, back in the  who has the best armpatch thread, hazard explained what our armpatch ment, and then rapid in the next post said that it represented the fact that the clan was a bunch of 'flamers'(he has since modified his post to eliminate this fact). there was no comment or insult made towards ak at any time in that thread. he simply made an un provoked and uncalled for attack.

next, if i really wanted to i could go way back and show the countless time that he has called me brainless, if you were to go look at my responses to  those posts, i have YET to call rapid by any other name.

personaly, i think that if capt. is going to be punished for his actions, it's time that rapid gets his due as well, he has insulted, mocked and disrespected countless rs players, and almost every single member of this forum. to date, sanctions have never taken against rapid, and he has gotten far more than 3 warnings in the past.  if we are going to start cracking down on disrespect, we must be impartial about doing so.  under that condition, rapid is the prime target, no if's, and's, or butt's

[Typhy]

Good job guys! - You let me sleep for 9 hours and you guys only made what? About 10 posts? Good job! Now to respond the the stupidity of your posts.

I like to start with the stupidest, so let's take a look at Jeb's post; I said that if I was on GameRanger, currently I might consider putting your whole clan on ignore based off of the fact that it seems that each week or so, a new one of them will come be a dumbass, still, I don't clan ignore, so I wouldn't do that. Secondly, there are not 500 people that hate Rapid, actually, there are a lot less than you might think, the (unt clan, half of the *NADS clan, most of the +-KoS-+ clan, and a few others, but the people who hate Rapid are by far in the minority.

Cossack, I guess I'll break my normal trend since your post is not stupid, just a weak argument; You must realize that in the battle league and in GameRanger, you don't have freedom of speech to do things such as that. Secondly, same as Jeb, it is the minority of the people, not the majority of the people on GameRanger who hate Rapid. Please refer to the list that I gave in my comments about Jeb.

Actually, I didn't read this post before commenting on Jeb's, this is a post that makes Jeb's look positivly intelectual. - Cookie! Your post!; Cookie, the first part of your post really has no point, therfor nothing to comment on, but right at the end of it, I see you say, just the same as Cossack, Jeb, so far you guys have a perfect record on the stupidity tablett, 3-0, you say that "everyone" hates AK and Rapid, using the word "everyone" was a very stupid idea, when someone uses the word "everyone", all that is needed to be done is for me to point out 1 person, and your point is invalid. I will pick a person at random, he <FiRE> RC, do you hate us? Don't use the word "everyone" if you want to make a good argument about somthing like this. As for the second half of your post, I think that Mauti summed it up pretty well, just refer to his explaination of it.

I think that Mauti answered your question Kilzo in saying that it concerned the battle league because it was about clans who were in the battle league. Cow, I find your post a little hard to understand, I think that you're trying to say that Anarchy broke the warning by putting the site up again, and there is no excuse for that, if thats what you meant, then I'd agree with you.

Buccaneer, all that is done at the |?K| site is state the facts, and an opinion, you may find it offensive, oh well, I find some of the articals on MLB.com pretty offensive as a Mariners fan, but all that it is is facts and opinions of their chances, also, the IAM site used person insults as well as calling my cable the equal of two tin cans, which was a pretty lame insult considering that Crosshairs computer was about the equal in processor speed of my Mac Classic that I have in the closet. Looks like Ben has a long post comming up, I will go get a drink then respond to it.

Okay, back, let's check out your post Ben; Actually Ben, you've lost 2 times in 3v3s, once it was Cow, Myself, and Rapid, the other it was myself, Rapid, and 33Degrees. Also, a 2v2, the players in that were Seth and Saberian. I would call it more like 3 wins since your teamate ( Bronto ) was stupid enough to take us on in a 1v1, which we were nice in and used 9mms for sevral games. Those quotes that you list off about Crow were in response for Crow making a link on his site with a really ugly looking guy ( Crow had no problem getting this picture, he just snapped his own picture with a digital camera ) and a bunch of weird music, as well as a fake Question and Answer thing about Rapid, filled with lies considering at the time Rapid had Crow on ignore. That 5th comment is because he is going on about this crap, while refusing to cb us, the battle that is referd to is a 5v5 that we won 6-1. The 6th quote is in response to somthing, we stayed away from them as much as we could since they were so stupid and failed to use logic in any arguments, so that quote was in response to something, what I don't know.

You mention that *DAMN will not be offended by the *DARN site, the reason for that is because in contains no insults, fake battles etc. Just jokes calling *NADS the best and crap like that. Once again, we just state our opinions, along with the facts, in no way is our site "spoof" or crap like that, there is a diffrence between opinion and spoof. Also, you comment that someone else did this, well, Anarchy is the one who had the site, so either he had to give him the script, which would mean that he had the knowledge that it would be going on the inetnet again, or he had to put it up himself. - No matter how you figure it, *NADS Capt. Anarchy was invloved.

-Typhy

[Jeb]

I agree with ben,
Mauti
i don't think AK had any form of reputation before capt made the site.
If you wanna see disrespect, insults, and childish humour go on over to the AK site. Ben didn't mention the numerous screenshots of bs on their site.
Disrespecting other clan leaders
"<( LMAO! Here's a Pic of Evill and KoS Ultimo, provided by PUNISHER <(UglyAssUltimoOnRight)>"
"<( *R?p!d?* teaches +-KoS-+Destructo a lesson and TK's him first <( TK'ed Dest )>"
"{IAM} has now started crying in public."
"Nice Try Drunk {IAM} Canadians"
"but it just shows how dumb those Drunk Canadians in that Clan really are."
"You're Marked thanks to ur IDIOTIC leader Tiger, so beware that there's a cap coming for ur ass!"
" aSsAsSin kept getting offended by our simple presence. This caused him to lead a parade of clowns to start bashing on us"

mauti, i know that rapid is acting really inocent about all this, but his original clan website is just as bad as capts joke.