what religion are you?

[AK_Rap1d]

And the LAKERS won the 2002 NBA Championship!

[jn.loudnotes]

Mmm...nothing quite like clicking right to page 3 on the religion topic and learning about the basketball tourney results.  I never would have known  

Anyway, I can prove to you convincingly that black is actually white, and vice versa if you have several hours free.  It helps if it's after 1 in the morning though...

Put that one to mort if you dare, as well....

[Mr. Lothario]

    "For he [the Houyhnhnm] argued thus: that the use of speech was to make us understand one another, and to receive information of facts; now if any one 'said the thing which was not' [lied], these ends were defeated; because I cannot properly be said to understand him; and I am so far from receiving information, that he leaves me worse than in ignorance, for I am led to believe a thing 'black' when it is 'white'...And these were all the notions he had concerning that faculty of 'lying', so perfectly well understood, and so universally practised among human creatures." --Jonathan Swift, "Gulliver's Travels" [italics added by me]

? ? Loud, you bad person, you. Baaaaad. For shame. ; )

[jn.loudnotes]

No...actually when my Dad was in college at UNC his freshman year law class was required to make that argument as an exercise in thinking.

Black is white, you know.

[Brain]

do you use color addition and subtraction to make that argument? or is simply how you define each one.

[Mr. Lothario]

    Hehehe. A law class making an argument defined by Swift as lying? [sarcasm] What a shock. [/sarcasm] ; )

[Precious_Roy]

Loud compliments me often.  And usually in ways which are flattering, but not true.  However, he is right, I am excellent at argueing on the side of truth.  And the truth is, Black is white.

Now:

I HATE CULTS. CULTS ARE BAD! RELIGION IS THE BIGGEST CULT ON EARTH. There, it's out!

I know I'm nitpicking, but a cult is a group of people who follow a living being, usually modeled after christ or a second-coming.

A religion, however, is group who follows a god or gods: some sort of otherearthly being(s).  They also have tax-exempt status!

Christianity was a cult.  So was Islam.  No longer though.

[Brain]

i am curious how you are able to make this a logical argument, could you please elaborate on how this 'proof' is done?

[Ace]

Well here goes.

Black

There once was a little boy who grew up in Indiana. He was a black kid with black parents and black brothers.

He and four of his black brothers made a band. They became five famous black brothers who played motown, traditionally black music.

Then this black boy, who was growing up and becoming a black man broke off and went solo. He was still black.

Eventually this man's music got shittier and shittier. Interestingly, he also became gradually whiter. Eventually he was completely white and enjoyed little boys. Thus is how black is white.

White

[Bondo]

Doesn't follow how Michael Jackson becoming white means black is white?  Logical it was not IMO.

[Geek USA]

buncha religious poops

[jn.loudnotes]

I compliment Mort because he is the only other hopeless online fanatic who thinks the same way I do.

But the argument can be made in many ways, from Ace's example to my personal favorite argumentative tactic: obstinancy.

For it is just as hard to "prove" the black is NOT white as it is to prove that it is.  When the truth is assumed, that black indeed is white, the reverse would also hold true, and then it becomes very difficult to ascertain otherwise, or which is which.  Furthermore, the argument should explain to you that any perception you have is based entirely on your fundamentally flawed culture.  Which I could go into for hours until you relent, but I won't.

Essentially, if you look at the post button below this, you would describe it as black and white.  But which is which?  I believe what you incorrectly refer to as black is actually white.  How can you tell me differently? That is what I see.  Perhaps your vision is flawed?

If you can define black without the usage of white, you'll see what I mean.  It can't be done without entering a very gray area.  And you'll see that's what this is.  This isn't a matter that is so cut and dried that it is only black and white.  There are many shades of gray that have been used to interpret black and white.  But the final truth is that black is white.


Illogical?  Perhaps...
Maddening?  Hopefully....

[*DAMN Silent Killer]

loud your a douche tell me the 2 colors to get black

[Mr. Lothario]

    I say "feh" unto you, Loud. Arguing with curvy sentences in an attempt to get your victim to say, "Uh... yeah?" does not equal logic.

    Define black without the usage of white? Very well. Ahem.

    In terms of reflected light, such as when looking at an object, white is the collective presence of the majority of the spectrum of visible electromagnetic radiation. A white object reflects all of the energy of white light (defined above).

    In terms of reflected light, black is the absence of reflected light. A black object reflects very little or no light, absorbing it instead.

    In terms of additive color, such as that seen on the front of a CRT, black is an area of pixels which are turned off, since CRTs are dark.

    In terms of additive color, white is a group of red, green, and blue pixels all generating light at the same brightness, thereby combining the colors and producing white.

    Obviously, that law school's exercise in arguing that black is white was simply to get the larval lawyers to discard their unhealthy habit of viewing situations objectively. ; )

[*DAMN Silent Killer]

wow he got ownedlol

[jn.loudnotes]

Well I wouldn't go that far...but it is an exercise in thinking subjectively.

But another part of the idea is that given that textbook definition - if you replace the word black with white, and vice versa, it makes just as much sense.  The argument challenges you to think outside of what you are told.  If you are told that black is as you just defined it, then you believe it.  But you should consider the possibility that everyone else is wrong.  Or simply that the language is flawed  

For example ~

In terms of reflected light, white is the absence of reflected light. A white object reflects very little or no light, absorbing it instead.

[WeaSelFlinK]

Lay off the hormones.

[Geek USA]

hmmm, i dont know the exact term for my religion... however i would call myself a go to church twice a year incase there is a god follower

[*DAMN Silent Killer]

twice???

ooooops