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i noticed that in the past few days there were allot of people saying that they were gong to pray to their respective god, and that got me thinking again(it's a danerous passtime)
so, as you could tell from the title, if you would please post your religion,i would appreciate it
i'm roman catholic, what are you?
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I am protestant.(evangelisch A.B.)
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Re: what religion are you?
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athiest, or how ever you spell it
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July 22, 2002, 12:37:46 pm »
I consider myself an agnostic Lutheran...to explain, I feel that every religion is praying to the same god and that god just takes the different forms to best reach each person. The Lutheran part is because tha is the specific belief system that I choose to be reached through. This belief is why I feel that fighting over religion is the single dumbest part of history (and present).
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um my parents never really told me but i would guess im a mix , Buddest and Muslim
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I am also Roman Catholic Brain, but I think that Bondo has a very good belief that I've never heard of before.
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I am Eastern Orthodox agnostic .I am like Bondo except I choose to reach god through the Orthodox faith.
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I'm not sure there's a name for my religious beliefs, or lack thereof. If I have my facts straight, I think it is somewhat similar to deeism, common among the US founding fathers.
My mother and father are jewish and episcopalian, respectively, so I have always had a cross-section of beliefs. In general I believe there is a god, but I don't feel that it requires religious belief. I am not sold on the idea of worship, and for me religion and its ceremonies are more of a cultural pastime than anything.
Religion to me is more a set of values. I don't believe in an afterlife or such either.
However, I have nothing against anyone who does. But I find it greatly offensive when people believe it is their mission to convert everyone else to their beliefs. That is the source of conflict which Bondo had mentioned. Although I suppose a neutral view is the only way to achieve true tolerance.
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religion is iffy and people get all hard about it, personally i find it hard to believe in god mainly because there is so much business around it. Like those billboards they put it up that had phrases from the bible. I think thats wrong. I think people that are really flamboyant (spelling) about their religion are stupid cause no one gives a fuck what u are. I think all religions are cults because most religions want you to give up a little something something. I also find it hard to believe people will devote so much of their life to something that has not even been proved.
People who fight each other because of religion are even more stupid. How can any religion have priority over another? Like the mayans and those old school peeps believed in multiple gods does that mean they are worse then christianity (spelling) or worse then a cult? That makes no sense, then the christians (hardcore) believe that if you are gay you burn in hell and if you are not a christian you burn in hell. That sounds like an uptight country club to me. There is so much we don't know i think we end up looking to god for an answer. God is an excuse for what we don't know. We don't know why grifter had to die but we assume god did took him for good reasons. We can't explain how earth was formed so we assumed God made it. As science moves on and more is answered i think peoples beliefs get more deranged. These religions were formed 200-300 years ago so earth being created in 8 days was not a bad answer. Phew. once again i would like to stress GOD IS AN EXCUSE FOR WHAT WE DON'T KNOW.
P.S. When you are sitting in/on your bed praying to god remember you are just talking to your self. We are all crazy =)
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I'm Jewish, but not of the religious type. What do Jews believe? This is a far more difficult question than you might expect. Judaism has no dogma, no formal set of beliefs that one must hold to be a Jew. In Judaism, actions are far more important than beliefs, although there is certainly a place for belief within Judaism.
Rambam's (Rabbi Moshe ben Maimon, one of the greatest medieval Jewish scholars. Also known as Maimonides) thirteen principles of faith, which he thought were the minimum requirements of Jewish belief, are :
1. God exists.
2. God is one and unique.
3. God is incorporeal.
4. God is eternal.
5. Prayer is to be directed to God alone and to no other.
6. The words of the prophets are true.
7. Moses's prophecies are true, and Moses was the greatest of prophets.
8. The Written Torah (first 5 books of the Bible) and Oral Torah (teachings now contained in the Talmud and other writings) were given to Moses.
9. There will be no other Torah.
10 .God knows the thoughts and deeds of men.
11. God will reward the good and punish the wicked.
12. The Messiah will come.
13. The dead will be resurrected.
As you can see, these are very basic and general principles. Yet as basic as these principles are, the necessity of believing each one of these has been disputed at one time or another, and the liberal movements of Judaism dispute many of these principles.
Unlike many other religions, Judaism does not focus much on abstract cosmological concepts. Although Jews have certainly considered the nature of God, man, the universe, life and the afterlife at great length, there is no mandated, official, definitive belief on these subjects, outside of the very general concepts discussed above. There is substantial room for personal opinion on all of these matters, because as I said before, Judaism is more concerned about actions than beliefs.
Judaism focuses on relationships: the relationship between God and mankind, between God and the Jewish nation, between the Jewish nation and the land of Israel, and between human beings. Our scriptures tell the story of the development of these relationships, from the time of creation, through the creation of the relationship between God and Abraham, to the creation of the relationship between God and the Jewish people, and forward. The scriptures also specify the mutual obligations created by these relationships, although various movements of Judaism disagree about the nature of these obligations. Some say they are absolute, unchanging laws from God (Orthodox); some say they are laws from God that change and evolve over time (Conservative); some say that they are guidelines that you can choose whether or not to follow (Reform, Reconstructionist).
So, what are these actions that Judaism is so concerned about? According to Orthodox Judaism, these actions include 613 commandments given by God in the Torah as well as laws instituted by the rabbis and long-standing customs...
There. I better stop before y'all fall asleep. That's basically it (it's really not, but it's pretty much all I know about it...).
Hope this wasn't too much of a novel.. or a spam...
Catch ya later,
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i know that i said i'm roman catholic, i feel i should clarify a little(this is mainly in reponse to the prior 2 posts)
while i beleve and worship god in the standard roman catholic way, i dont believe that the bible is a textbook or encylopaedia, describing everything as it happened.
take god creating the universe in just 6 days(genesis 2:3 "so god blessed the seventh day and made it holy, because on it he rested from all the work he had done in creation"), i mean look at chaper 1 and 2 of genesis, ther are 2 different creation stories.
also, who said that a day for god had to be the same as a day for us. our day is based on the rotation of the planet, mb gods day is based on the rotaton of the universe? something to think about.
also, if he's almighty, why cant he create the universe through the big bang(let there be light! and, although i wasnt actually present at the time of the big bang, i'm willing to bet that there was lots of light)
all i'm saying is that i believe in what i call scientific roman catholosisim. who says that god couldn't do what he wants to do, in whatever way he wants
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Ok, this is what the Orthodox Church has taught me. The Bible is written in metaphorical language. I have noticed that there are 7 geologic eras. I noticed this a while ago I might actually be wrong. You know Pre Cambrian Cambrian Mesozoic etc. I cant remember their names. Tell me if I am wrong. But the point that I really want to shove across is that I want to say that the bible is written in metophorical. I talked to a Theologian Professor and he said the same thing about the Catholic faith.
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hmmm, that is an interesting thought cossak, i'll have to look into that some more
ant yes, i do believe that the bible is metaphorical, revelations would be an excelent example
also, jesus tought in parables, which are esentially metaphores
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I'm with you Brain, I believe that God created the scientific properties that allowed the Earth to form as it has, and that allowed the evolution of species to happen as it has. I really don't pay much notice to the Bible, I think it is a document written by the various leaders throughout the history of Judeo-Christian belief. They didn't have any more "word of god" than I do and so they just wrote in the book what they wanted to happen with little regard to God. I think King David was a bad person not the great hero that the Bible makes him out to be. I also think that anyone, regardless of how they believe will go to heaven if they are good at heart and like Martin Luther said "by faith alone".
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Unactive/Roman Catholic/Ex-Alterboy
Christians is the right word.
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yes i agree with cossak
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Catholic all the way, as if that should be some surprise seeing as how I'm Irish and Italian.
PS - I will not post anymore if/when this becomes a heated religious debate.
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Not to mention pasty white Ace. (I make that joke in memory of Grifter bless his soul he is now among the big flocks of sheep in the sky)
I think SK's post is the only one that might have dipped into that realm.
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I can't bring myself to join a cult, so I stay out of religion totally.
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i wasn't planning/hoping that this would turn into a heated debate, so if we could keep it on the yea i agree, or i dont agree and heres why, level i would appreciate it
so in short; please, no bible thumping.
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