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« Reply #20 on: July 13, 2003, 05:05:52 pm »

Please, all of you, go on.
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« Reply #21 on: July 13, 2003, 05:55:34 pm »

i have...lets see, something like six macs in my house, ranging from the original gray box mac(which still works perfectly) to a new iMac running OSX besides the p.o.s perfoma 6400(which i destroyed dling stuff) all the macs run fine. muati is right, the original word processing systems are better than anything out there today, more stream lined. i just recently spent a year in italy and used a PC the whole time. ugly, not easy to use, and i missed my mac. i use macs because they are easier to use, prettier, have a rabid following, and plus im just obstinante enough to not buy a PC cause they are the popular thing out there(like not reading harry potter) i will always stick with the mac
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« Reply #22 on: July 13, 2003, 06:08:47 pm »

[...] cause they are the popular thing out there...

Indeed they are.

While most of my friends own PC's, I do not.  This, acts as a disadvantage.
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« Reply #23 on: July 13, 2003, 08:30:59 pm »

I'm completely and totally in love with my Mac.  First, the OS is just too smexy to part with and with a few added tweaks it can be made even smexier.  Second, if I was to run out and get a PC, it would be only for gaming, which would only distract me more. A PC would simply be my "gaming machine," which could be a waste of money.

Sure PCs are cheaper, but as you've read so far, they brake down.  Windows would also be a big hassle.
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« Reply #24 on: July 13, 2003, 11:16:22 pm »

I'm completely and totally in love with my Mac.

So am I.  But you sleep and have sex with it; I don't.

Honestly, what is there to dislike about a PC?  I'm just asking.

As far as I can tell, any computer can, I quote, "brake down", if it isn't being used or taken care of properly.

I've still not made up my mind.  Your advice means everything to me.
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« Reply #25 on: July 13, 2003, 11:41:59 pm »

     PCs are lacking that certain ineffable something that makes a Mac so enjoyable to use. They're also missing a few quite effable somethings, such as Apple's top-to-bottom design based around the user. Macs are consciously and specifically designed to adapt to the user, to do what the user wants. PCs are unconsciously designed to force the user to adapt to the PC. As I've said before, I want to use my computer, not fight with it over dominance. I'm OK with only having a tenth of the games in exchange for getting ten times more work done.
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« Reply #26 on: July 13, 2003, 11:42:44 pm »

So that's the real definition of "wetware."
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« Reply #27 on: July 14, 2003, 05:45:47 am »

All I can say is you will be very sorry if you waste your money on a pc. I have them at work and I can't stand even looking at them, once I get on it...omg...talk about a piece of crap. I could never ever imagine buying a pc.

And look at this, if you want a pc for gaming, sure you get all the games first, but you play with thousands of ppl..you never really get to know anyone unless your a game junkie and can spend hours a day finding your clan and arranging battles. And then you have to deal with the countless hackers and cheaters, windows based machines and games are easily hacked and therefore are completely bullshit.

I'd rather play 4-5 games with maybe 2 cheaters than play 100 games with a couple thousand cheaters....just my opinon..take it for what it's worth.
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« Reply #28 on: July 14, 2003, 12:58:21 pm »

     You probably won't regret it. : D
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« Reply #29 on: July 14, 2003, 01:09:34 pm »

But isn't it a bit obvious you'd all prove me wrong?
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« Reply #30 on: July 14, 2003, 05:50:57 pm »

yea, goto a PC forum and see if you get swayed.
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« Reply #31 on: July 15, 2003, 12:40:33 am »

hey guys, I think you all know that I would never buy a PC. b/c I wouldnt be dumb enough to spend my hard earned money on a piece of junk.  Anyway, I am currently having a big debate right now on the same issue (mac vs. PC) and I am responding to this guy I know on a school LAN forum (not on net, so I cant reveal his identity, sorry) ) about this topic and he is PRO PC and doesnt like macs.  
I want to post his last comment here and I would like others (including loth and Mauti, etc) to reply with their honest and unbiased replies about this guys comments.  

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Go DELL

Mac's have VERY limited software support. Keep this in mind, as you'll be paying more money for software that is easily available on the PC platform. Hardware failure, look to spend $50 an hour to get rid of your problems.

Don't get me wrong, Mac's are "ok", I have one, but trying to get support/software..I've often been hung out to dry. I'm also a "pc person", with little interest in Mac..so don't ask me about Mac.

Dell.com offers the best value/pricing and has Intel processors under the hood.

I don't think a Mac fanatic can argue that the PC platform is the most widely supported. Consider this, how many friends do you have on your block that have mac's in a production setting versus PC? This counts when you want support/help..

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So what is yer rebuttle on this guys?? Is what he is saying have any truth?? or is he just plain wrong?

Nom's

ps. I would really appreciate comments from serious posts, thank you!
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« Reply #32 on: July 15, 2003, 01:08:15 am »

     I've never had any trouble getting support, on the three or four occasions I've needed it in over a decade of Mac ownership. Assuming you can't fix whatever problem it is yourself, it's not a difficult matter to find your Authorized Apple Retailer (tm) and have them do the work. 99% of the time, when something has gone wrong with my Mac, it's been a problem that is easily repairable by a confident user. I just haven't needed support from the pros.

     Regarding the software support, I'm not sure whether he's talking out his ass or not about the pricing. Sure, games are more expensive on the Mac (because our version is new, and the PC version is six months old), but in non-games, the prices are comparable, if not equal. Photoshop is the same price on both platforms, Quicken is actually a few dollars cheaper on the Mac, and if the Mac version of Microsoft Office is equal to the PC Office XP Standard Edition, then the Mac version is $111 more. If the Mac version is equal to the PC Pro version, then the Mac version is considerably cheaper (but I doubt that).

     Then he mentions personal support, the "friends and family" network of people you can bug about your problems. I've seen people ask for help on predominantly PC message boards. I've seen people ask for help on predominantly Mac message boards. In the latter case, the asker generally gets lots of help pretty quickly. In the former case, the asker is usually lucky if they get one or two responses. There's a Mac community, and personally, I like that.
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« Reply #33 on: July 15, 2003, 01:23:48 am »

Hey loth, thnx for the reply but i have a couple questions for you.

1.You mention at the end of yer post that mac has a community, and I agree, but are you saying that PC doesn't??

2. The post I put up of this guy I know makes a comment on something that I dont understand and I was hoping (or anyone else) can explain to me.  He says, "Consider this, how many friends do you have on your block that have mac's in a production setting versus PC? This counts when you want support/help.."
What does he mean by production setting??

thanks again for the replies
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« Reply #34 on: July 15, 2003, 01:28:27 am »

Well I can't say much to that: first if you had a Mac Rogue Spear/Ghost Recon issue I think it was answered or at least tried to answer. So the size of a community isn't the deciding point it is more how helpful the community is. Further there aren't that many different systems or system combinations so most questions can be answered by and for many people.

However I never needed technical support: the only issues I had with my iMac were 2 complete harddisk fallouts(once the bootsection got erased and once the hd heads were broken) but this were standard PC hardware components so...

Software is mostly prized the same.

To use a Mac or PC depends on the tasks you have to do and often your emotional attitude. Of course for gaming the PC is the non plus ultra, period, but only the fact that I don't have to worry about driver issues and that my hardware is very reliable let me use Macs.

About getting software cheap(warezing): you get as much warez as for the PC. (if this is a good thing is another question).

If you have the money to buy a highend PC or a G5: I would say it is an emotional decision: if you have always used PCs you will stick with them and same for Mac user. May the last years were a little bit different because of the performance lack but remember when the G4 came out the MHz difference was only 100 - 200 Mhz and now with the G5 we have closed the performance gap and so I think we are back at a point where your decision won't base on bare facts.

I'll get a G5 and will be happy with it for the next 4 - 5 years! I'm using my iMac now almost 4 years and I'm very satisfied with it.

Think different,

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« Reply #35 on: July 15, 2003, 01:33:28 am »

In response to Nomad's 2nd post:

He just want to ask how many friends of you have a Mac or a PC -> how many people could help in the case of a bad problem. Most of my friends use Macs. I helped several times Bander with his old G3 beige issues and even I often helped friends with PCs that had issues with their video output. In the case of my harddisk crashes Elandrion helped me out with his firewire disks.

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« Reply #36 on: July 15, 2003, 02:02:46 am »

Mauti, thnx for the reply.

You mentioned in your post that when the g4's were out there was only about 100-200 Mhz difference and that now that the g5's are out the performance gap has shortened.  Are you saying that P4's (or other PC) where faster than the g4's??  or do you mean that the g4's were 100-200 Mhz faster than the current fastest PC out there?
The reason I ask is b/c  I thought the g4 was faster than the P4 and now that the g5 is out there, there isn't any PC comp out there that even comes close to the g5??  Am I right in saying this, Mauti?

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« Reply #37 on: July 15, 2003, 02:16:46 am »

What I wanted to say is that back in the days when the G4 came out PCs and Macs were performancewise equally. So the decision to buy a Mac or PC wasn't influenced by speed!

In the last 1 - 2 years the PC had also a very well arguement that he just performed better than any Mac.

Now with the G5 this pro PC arguement isn't accurate anymore, at least for the moment. So your decision to go by Mac or PC doesn't base on speed/performance facts(if the G5 is really that fast or even faster will be proven once they are shipping). It is more again an subjective decision: if you play almost only games, which OS you prefer, which software do you prefer...

That was my point.

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« Reply #38 on: July 15, 2003, 04:27:15 am »

Keep it coming!!! I need some more posts replying to my original 1st post on what this guy said and what is yer rebuttle??

Feedback plz

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« Reply #39 on: July 15, 2003, 05:29:52 am »

Funny you say that this person says apple has bad support when actually they received an A or A+ from www.pcmag.com along with Dell.  What about Apple Stores? They are in nearly every main city about in about 30+ states and they can answer any questions.  GR is pretty good tech support too if u find the right person.  and uhhhhhh but the pcmag thing is cool A for Apple man moooooooooooooo
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