I did what i had to do to keep my guys online... MP5 knew we had to play 2 cbs today... after the cb was over today he (Typhy) goes afk an changes his name to *dinner*.... so we wait.. an wait... and wait some more... his members telling me they dont have to play the other cb today....

Excuse me BUT NO WE DONT AGREE TO THE EXTENTION.

TYPHY NEVER SHOWED TO PLAY... you guys want the cb to happend? Have him play when he's supposed to play!@

Some of you admins think its both of our clans fault for Typhy posting on Saturday... We asked him to go to an admin... i talked to the admins and he decided to post... he closes his room down an some of his guys go offline... hes posting and not talking to an admin and ITS OUR FAULT?

We waited all night saturday we waited ALL NIGHT LONG Sunday... and changed schedules becuase we didnt want to break any rules.... WERE STILL HERE.....


And i DONT AGREE WITH ADMINS BENDING THE RULES (AGAIN) TO FIT TYPHY!@!@##@

Tomorrow i have plans... I need to do everything i missed out on this past weekend, trying to get my clan to do all these cbs.... Tomorrow i will be with my sick gf... and the other guys will go on with their lives... until we have to cb c| in the finals bracket...

Rules cant be bent AGAIN...

Why have rules if you can just change it to suit one of the admins?

Really Lee?

Then as an Admin, you would follow the rules about three admins making a decision?  Oh, guess not.

BTW bucc i like you.. you are a good guy.. but.. im sry.. im not going to be bullied around by typhy jusy b/c he thinks he is a "vet".. you know.. if i still hhad my original account (that is on the 8600 powermac) I would be alot olderthen his... I'm just tired of the same oold BS over and over w/ the same fucking person.. typhy

Then why bend the rules to suit him?

The funny thing about that static is that elandrion came oonline to PROOVE that we were on time with the posting....

Ok All,  This is going nowhere.

I will try to put some light on the situation the best I can.


fact:  BTs had 4 or more able bodies to cb anytime on Saturday.  MP5 stopped the cb in the middle with something to      do with the rules.  I have no clue what the issue was.

fact:  Both clans MP5 and BTs knew that atleast 2 or 3 cb's would have to be played on Sunday.  It was posted in the forums.

fact:  MP5 didn't show up till the default cb time for the first cb knowing more than one cb was to be played

fact:  After the first cb was completed MP5 knew a second cb was need and acknowleged by 5150 "  Typhy will be back in 15 minutes"  we can continue then.

fact:  After waiting for about 1 hour for typhy to return, eight had to take his sick girl home.  He did check with an admin to ok this, splinter.  He was told it was ok as long as BTs had enough players online.  Bts still had 4 or more players ready to go.

fact:  BTs had 4 or more palyers online to continue the matches need to be finished by 12 am pst.  (I have plenty of ss to support this)


Ok after all this I would like MP5 to add there version and let the admins rethink the out come.

As it stands now BTs WILL NOT cb MP5 today or at any other time in the finals.  We feel we were wronged and will not continue in the semi-finals if extension is to be upheld.


Take your time and reply with fact reasons not rants.

Thanks all

static

I have posted this in the admin section, here are my thoughts:

After reviewing multiple chat logs, threads and screenshots, I have reconsidered my position regarding the extension.

Chain of events:

Saturday - BTs and MP5 begin their first CB.? After 1 match there is a question about the ruling.? Typhy posted the issue, and after discussion eight asked to continue the match 45 minutes later.? Typhy had said all of his members had gone offline and they could not continue.? From what I gather, BTs remained online ready to play for an additional 4 hours on Saturday.

Sunday - the CB starts at 7pm PST with from what BTs tells me, the intention of doing both CBs today.? The CB was completed at 7:33pm PST.? Both Harvery and eight tell me then that Typhy changed his name to put a .dinner tag on it, without speaking to BTs about scheduling the remaining matches.? Time passes, and from what I witnessed personally, various MP5 went offline, while there were plenty of BTs online waiting to continue.? At around 9:20pm PST Typhy messaged Lee Harvey asking for an extension.? At around 9:10pm I spoke with 5150, and he said that his impression was that MP5 had no intention of continuing with the CBs tonight.? From the time the first CB had ended there as 4 hours and 27 minutes to continue playing the cbs.? Again, i witnessed BTs up and ready to play up until the end of the regulation round.

From what I've seen BTs made every possible effort to play the CBs after the dispute was settled on saturday, and after the first cb was finished on sunday.? So far from what I see, MP5 made little effort to get the CBs done. The arguement was made about 'a deadline is a deadline'.? Well that stands for here too.? First round of finals ended at 12:00am PST, and BTs from what I see, was ready to go up to and past that deadline.

Im my opinion, 'my team signed off' is not a valid reason for not continuing the cbs.  They should have been told to stay online.  You have a rain delay in baseball, do the teams go home?  no, they wait and see if the games can be finished.  these are the finals, if you signed up for the league, then you made the commitment to get these games done.  if you can't fulfill that commitement on time, then you forfeit.


On a side note, I am disappointed in many of the admins when it comes to the forfeit rulings.  Over the 5 season I have been active in the BL there have been plenty of cases that teams have been in forfeit by the strict definition of the rules, but not once has any match been ruled a forfeit.  What is the point on having this rule in the books, if it's not going to be enforced?  The main reason I hear for ruling against forfeits is, 'no one wants to see a forfeit'.  I don't understand why we are so suprised that we're in these situations, when clans know there will be no concequences for their actions.

I know you guys would like to post your support, but there is still no progress with a another time frame fast approaching.  We were told that this decision was one dealt down from the Admin's, so let the reply be the same.

One coherent post from the admin's.  You see what I mean, if you guys can't reason amongst yourselves as to how to rule fairly, then why accept what has been ruled.  In a sense we are fed the madness, handed down by madness, so we must accept madness.  Well, then madness you will be dealt back.  

See how all of this revolves and revolves.  It takes the strength of a single voice to lead people and to be believed in, but we still feel everything so far is unjust.  Now this is even supported by the bickering by admin's.

All I asked was for one clear cut argument with support to be handed to us so that we may make one educated response to the ruling.  Now let's get it together and figure out how you want to rule the league. If not we all know that we can do what we want next season and hope that it will go our way instead of knowing that a decision will be handed down.  One that is straightforward, logical, and sticking to its own rules.  

Until then we just flop along, time will pass, and nothing will be resolved.

thanks,