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People bitching about having to buy a new mac to game.
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October 13, 2003, 08:57:44 pm »
I'm on a rant today, so I may as well jump on this one.
I hear so many people bitch that to play GhR, or RvS, they are going to have to buy a new Mac. I hear many people bitch about the games sucking, and that's their first complaint.
So let's take a look. The requirements for GhR are a 450MHz and at least an ATI Radeon. So, in other words, a computer that was available in August of 1999. That's four years ago.
The requirements for RvS are 733MHz and at least a 32MB GeForce2 video card. A computer that came out January of 2001. That's about a 3 year old computer by the time the game gets here.
So if you want to keep up with the latest games, you need a computer that's less then 3 years old.
But here's where the real bitching comes. The people that buy iMacs but expect them to be good gaming machines.
People, WAKE UP. You can't honestly expect to have new, cool, state of the art (or even close to it) games run on 3 and 4 year old kit. And before you talk about your iMac only being a year old, give it up. It's an iMac. They aren't high end machines.
I'm not heartless, I understand that not everyone has the money to buy a new computer, but don't bitch about the games coming out not running on them just because you can't.
But computers become outdated, and they do it fast. Every 18 months if you want to stay ahead of the game. So sell that outdated pos on e-bay and order your new G-5, and then you'll be good for 2 more years.
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Re:People bitching about having to buy a new mac to game.
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October 13, 2003, 10:00:40 pm »
Exactly bucc,
I think most of the problem comes from the fact that people use their mommy's imac to play games on. Of course any imac will suck for games. Put it this way.
I have an iMac 700 with 512megs of ram, and i have a G4 466mhz with 768megs of ram.
The iMac is a year younger than the G4 and is so much slower than the G4 (despite the 234mhz processor speed advantage).
Anyhow i'm not worried now, because i have a G5.
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October 13, 2003, 10:11:35 pm »
Some of us are not willing too waste 3g's on some better frame rates ya know.
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Re:People bitching about having to buy a new mac to game.
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October 13, 2003, 10:43:21 pm »
Just got married Ghost (like two days ago). And your problem isn't being married, but listening to your wife when she says no. Perhaps you don't know that her mouth is better used for something else =D
But seriously, this is directed at the people that BITCH about it, not the ones that don't.
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Quote from: MainMaN on October 13, 2003, 10:11:35 pm
Some of us are not willing too waste 3g's on some better frame rates ya know.
If your not willing to upgrade your computer, you shouldn't roll around in your own piss and vomit crying about how poorly games run on your computer.
the same applys to bucc about getting married. Only he gets to replace "how poorly games run on your computer" with "being chained to 1 hole for the rest of your life"
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I'm willing to waste the money on a new G5....but my wife wont let me!!!
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Just beacuse something theoretically meets the system requirements doesn't mean that it can run the game at an acceptable framerate.
Take Snipe for example; theoretically, he meets the requirements for America's Army, yet he's hard pressed to get more than 10 FPS.
Even the framerates on my laptop are what I'd call unacceptable ( 10 outside at Pipeline, 15 at Moutian Pass SE, 25 at Weapons Cache ), and that's a:
1GHZ G4, 1GB RAM, 64MB ATI Radeon 9000. Twice the required graphics card, 277mhz more than required, and 4 times the required RAM.
The only one of my macs that gets acceptable framerates is my Dual 1.25:
Dual 1.25GHZ G4, 1.5GB PC2700 DDR333 RAM, 128MB GeForce 4 4600 Ti. ( 40 on Weapons Cache, 20 on Moutian Pass SE, 10 outside at Pipeline ). Even those framerates are lacking.
I don't bitch about games not running on my computer - I bitch about games not running well because they're shitty ports.
My laptop's Intel equal running Windows XP Pro would get between 40 and 75 FPS in AA. It's all in the port.
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Well for someone like me, it's really just a losing game of catch-up. Since I can never afford to pay what Apple charges for its high end computers (in the 1500-3000 range just for the computer), I have to wait for them to get old. By the time they are cheap enough for me to afford they are typically about 2 years old. That leaves me a year of gaming on my computer until it is outdated. But I can't afford to buy a new computer each year, I really can only feasibly afford one every 4-5 years. This means that I am getting a year of gaming out of each one. I don't hold Apple responsible for my own financial situation, I know they have to charge that much.
It's really just more of wishful thinking for me, IE "I wish my computer could play newer games". It would be nice if more people would realize that shiny new graphics?a better game. That said, if I can ever afford to buy better computers more often, I will. So anyway, I don't bitch about it, I lament it. Way different.
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Tasty, if you buy the right computer, you can upgrade it and get more life out of it (not as good as new, but playable).
If you get a decent tower, you can add more ram, replace the video card, and get more life for less money.
Typhy, that ATI is the mobile model, which makes a difference. I've played AA on my iBook when I was beta testing it, and it was acceptable, not good, but acceptable. And face it, laptops are not gaming machines.
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Ok, another thing to look at, Bucc. AA on my 1.2GHZ G4 ( formerally an 867 g4, before the processor died ):
1.2GHZ G4, 768MB RAM, 64MB ATI Radeon 9000 Pro.
Same framerates as the laptop - that's with a slightly better graphics card, and 200Mhz more. Same framerates.
Fact is, it's a shitty port.
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Typhy, fact is, you keep forgetting to tell people these fps are with you doing 1600x1200 or so resolutions. You should really turn down the resolution if you are bitching about FPS, you really really should.
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To address everyone who has posted in this thread...
Typhy: Can you go 3 fucking posts without mentioning the specs on your Macs. You didn't do a damn thing to earn any of them, so going on about how spoiled you are is pretty fucking annoying. Besides, my rig pwns anything you have.
Bucc: iMacs aren't bad gaming machines for the first two years of their life, if not more. An 800 or 700 MHz G4 with a GeForce2 should still play any game out right now. Hell, I just retired my Cube from active gaming and I was able to play everything save AA. And that's on a 450 MHz G4 with a Rage 128. But regardless, I agree with your rant. If you really want to game well on your machine for a while, get a tower and then upgrade the video card a few years in. It's amazing how much your gaming experience can be improved with more RAM and a better video card.
Mainman: Some of us buy these machines for many other things. Getting a kickass gaming box is just a nice side effect.
GhostSniper: You don't have a wife. You don't have a $50,000/year job.
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ok i wanna get my 2 cents in
1)hey ace go easy on typhy, they pay him to live in alaska.
2)imacs are bad computers because anything that incorperates two things in one is gonna be faulty on one side, either the screen or the computer.
3) ghost sniper, i doubt u get paid dirty rich, beause if u did ud be pimping some hoes right about... now. and you dont have a wife, unelss your like xaiver, xaiver said he was a pharmacist and had a wife with 4 kids, the wife part was ok unless that was his sister, his pharmasict job was a bunch of shit, i banged his wife for 50? the other week, thats where he is getting his 5th mouth to feed.
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Smokie, iMacs are great computers, for what they are meant for, which isn't gaming. They have their niche and they fit great.
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here's some comparison's of the g4 dual 1.2 with 9800 pro vs the g5 dual 2 with 9800 pro.
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Yes, car salesmen make entirely too much money. Thank God for A plan.
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Nice post ace, your very right. When i was posting that, it sounded that you all got g5's just to get some more frame rates and it seems stupid. Not that im saying apples are dumb.
Bucc... imacs are more generation gaming, meaning they get the job done, but wont keep up all the way... obviously.
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I really thought somebody would have called me at work today....at least ACE, if nobody else. Oh well, I was kinda busy anyways....you can leave voicemail!!!
Being in class or working all day precludes it. Besides, if you really are a car salesman as you claim, I feel pity for you.
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