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« on: September 12, 2002, 05:14:08 am »
Well, I came online just before I went to sleep, and so there I am, trying to get rid of that last bit of energy, when Ewok starts typing in binary, so I start telling everyone what he's saying, and I actually trick ignome into thinking I can "read" binary. see for yourself...



?(uNt? Ewok: 01011001 01101111 01110101 00100000 01110000 01100101 01100101 01110000 01110011 00100000 01100001 01110010 01100101 00100000 01110011 01110100 00110000 00110000 01110000 01101001 01100100
<< randumus has left the room >>
??g??SNiPE ?PMS?: omg ewok just spelled out "I am a pirate" in binary
??g??SNiPE ?PMS?: BAN
??g??SNiPE ?PMS?: BAN
[GETF]1gn0m3.aHa!.: lol
[GETF]1gn0m3.aHa!.: rofl
[GETF]1gn0m3.aHa!.: how?
??g??SNiPE ?PMS?: why am I so hyper right now?
??g??SNiPE ?PMS?: wtf is wrong with me
??g??SNiPE ?PMS?: I'm talking a lot
??g??.:??D?:.?TR?: bah, no one is joining\
[GETF]1gn0m3.aHa!.: omg how can you read binary?
??g??SNiPE ?PMS?: practice
[GETF]1gn0m3.aHa!.: heh
??g??SNiPE ?PMS?: lots of practice
?(uNt? Ewok: 01011001 01101111 01110101 00100111 01110010 01100101 00100000 01100111 01100001 01111001
[GETF]1gn0m3.aHa!.: hmm
<< ??g??.:??D?:.?TR? closed a Rogue Spear: Urban Ops room >>
[GETF]1gn0m3.aHa!.: oh i see
??g??SNiPE ?PMS?: ewok: "I am not a pirate you ass"
?(uNt? Ewok: 01001001 01110100 00100111 01110011 00100000 01110100 01101000 01100001 01110100 00100000 01110011 01101001 01101101 01110000 01101100 01100101
<< yayaya left GameRanger >>
[GETF]1gn0m3.aHa!.: each " 01001001" is like a letter
??g??SNiPE ?PMS?: ewok: "I only know a few hacks"
[GETF]1gn0m3.aHa!.: Cheesy
[GETF]1gn0m3.aHa!.: yoda dont knoe jack
??g??SNiPE ?PMS?: nice ewok
??g??SNiPE ?PMS?: real nice
[GETF]1gn0m3.aHa!.: or is that pink?
?(uNt? Ewok: 01010011 01101110 01101001 01110000 01100101 00101100 00100000 01110011 01110100 01100110 01110101
??g??SNiPE ?PMS?: LMFAO EWOK!!!!! AHAHHAHAHAHA!!!!
??g??SNiPE ?PMS?: That's so mean
??g??SNiPE ?PMS?: !!!
?(uNt? Ewok: 01001001 00100000 01100001 01101101 00100000 01110000 01101001 01101110 01101011 00101100 00100000 01111001 01101111 01110101 00100000 01101110 00110000 00110000 01100010
[GETF]1gn0m3.aHa!.: heh
??g??SNiPE ?PMS?: I think you misspelled something
[GETF]1gn0m3.aHa!.: i think hes copy pasting
??g??SNiPE ?PMS?: it should be 00100101 instead of 01101011
[GETF]1gn0m3.aHa!.: heh
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[GETF]1gn0m3.aHa!.: ??g??SNiPE ?PMS? = too much time on his hands
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|?K|*Mjolnir Recon 5?: fuck the fucking bianary speaka de engles===
?(uNt? Ewok: 01000011 01101111 01110000 01111001 00101111 01110000 01100001 01110011 01110100 01100101 00111111 00100000 01001110 01101111
??g??SNiPE ?PMS?: binary's fun cause no one knows what we're saying
[GETF]1gn0m3.aHa!.: heh
?(uNt? Ewok: 01001001 01110100 00100111 01110011 00100000 01100001 00100000 01110011 01100011 01110010 01101001 01110000 01110100 00100000 01001001 00100000 01101101 01100001 01100100 01100101
??g??SNiPE ?PMS?: yah but ewok, they don't know that
[GETF]1gn0m3.aHa!.: whats he saying?
??g??SNiPE ?PMS?: lol
??g??SNiPE ?PMS?: he's saying
[GETF]1gn0m3.aHa!.: is there a site?
?(uNt? Ewok: 01001001 00100111 01101101 00100000 01010000 01101001 01101110 01101011 00101100 00100000 01100010 01110100 01110111
??g??SNiPE ?PMS?: They are really dumbasses, it doesn't take long to learn
?(uNt? Ewok: iGnome
?(uNt? Ewok: It's a script I made
[GETF]1gn0m3.aHa!.: heh
?(uNt? Ewok: I told you that in my 2nd to last binary message
?(uNt? Ewok: Idiot
[GETF]1gn0m3.aHa!.: lol
<< ?(uNt? Ewok is now known as ?(uNt? Pink >>
<< ?(uNt? Pink is now known as ?(uNt? gen pink >>
??g??SNiPE ?PMS?: wow, I can't believe Ignome actually thought I can read binarry
??g??SNiPE ?PMS?: that's funny shit
[GETF]1gn0m3.aHa!.: he
[GETF]1gn0m3.aHa!.: h
??g??SNiPE ?PMS?: *cough* gullible *cough*
[GETF]1gn0m3.aHa!.: su

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« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2002, 05:17:54 am »
you should stop spaming useless cr@p you tool
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« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2002, 05:19:36 am »
I know peeps prolly don't want to know this, but binary are an 8 numbers in a group. tsarting at one, each number doubles itself... So binary (being 8 digits) are

128 64 32 16 8 4 2 1

Now a 1 at 128 means theres 128 + whatever else theres a 1 at... A 0 means its not this number...

For example

10000000 = 128

11000000= 128+64=192

10100000= 128+32=160

Hope I explained that well enough... That's all binary is... A bunch of numbers converted by computers... There's your useless fact of information for today...

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« Reply #3 on: September 12, 2002, 07:14:03 am »
Binary isn't necessarily 8 numbers in a group; binary refers to any number in base 2. With any n digit binary number you can represent 2^n numbers. 8 bit binary numbers as stored in computers are just bytes, nothing special. Computers don't always use binary. The circuits in the chips use binary, but the OS uses hex because it is much easier to store. (i.e. 11010011 vs D3) If we had windows users on here, I would say just wait until you get your next BSOD and you will see all the hex that pops up.
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« Reply #4 on: September 12, 2002, 07:17:31 am »
I get binary... I just wish someone could explain hex though. My Cisco teacher spent a whole *day* explaining it... The day I was absent... Yah... And he never explained it after saying "You won't need it." You know how to explain hex Ace?

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« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2002, 01:43:32 pm »
hex is rather easy basicaly 0-9 then A=10 B=11 C=12 D=13 E=14 F=15

the hard part(for me anyway) was understanding the concept of how i could have more than 9 in any one position.  if you want to know how to convert it, i've done it by hand before, so i would recommend gatting a calculator to do it. manually is a pain in that ass(and you need a calculator anyway)

that probably didnt help, but ifd you wanted to post a more specific question i could answer that in greater detail
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« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2002, 05:44:40 pm »
Converting from hex to binary or vice versa by hand is very easy because 16 is a power of two. I would go into trying to explain it, but I tried explaining it to Ben yesterday and I found it very difficult if I couldn't write it out on paper or be talking to someone.
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« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2002, 06:37:03 pm »
     All numerical bases follow the same rules. They simply have different values. Base ten, aka decimal, is the normal, everyday number system. In base 10, each column of numbers is a power of ten, starting at 10^0 in the rightmost column, then 10^1, 10^2, and so on to infinity. So, 123 is three 1s + two 10s + one 100. (Anything to the zeroth power is 1, and all number bases start with x^0, so all number bases have a ones digit in the right-hand column.)

     Binary and hex follow the exact same rules as decimal, it's just that we're not as used to working with them, so it's not intuitive. Binary 10101 is (right to left) one 1, zero 2s, 1 four, 0 eights, 1 sixteen. 21. Note the powers: right to left again, binary is 2^0, 2^1, 2^2, 2^3, etc.
     Hexadecimal is the same thing, except base-16. Since we don't have 16 digits, we use letters to substitute for 10-15. Hex is 0-9, A-F (always capital letters). Each column is a power of 16. I suck at hex, since I've never quite gotten a grasp on multiplying by 16, but that's all it takes. The rules are identical. Hex FA28 is eight 1s, two 16s, ten 256s, fifteen 4096s. 64040.

     Converting between hex and binary is the easiest conversion because of one fact: a single hex digit can represent the same range of values as four binary digits (one nibble, half a byte) can. For convenience, I'm going to introduce a convention derived from programming languages (C in particular, I think): the prefix 0x means hexadecimal. 0x123, 0xA893, etc. Anyhow, 0x0 = 0. 0xF = 15. Binary 0000 = 0. Binary 1111 = 15. This means that two hex digits can be used to represent a byte, which is far easier to read. What makes it easy is that you can simply substitute the hex for the binary, or vice versa. If you've got binary 0100 (= 4), that is 0x4. You can read each nibble and just drop in the equivalent hex digit. Going from hex to binary, you read each hex digit and write the equivalent nibble. It's all very nice and easy.
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« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2002, 07:43:55 pm »
Uhm, speaking of which, Loth, could you translate that text into English?
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« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2002, 08:04:52 pm »
Nice explanation Loth

Although none of you mentioned that it is possible to spell in binary.  Every time you press a key on your keyboard, it sends a string of 0s and 1s to your computer. . .if I remember correctly, there is an 8-digit pattern for every character.  I don't happen to know them off the top of my head, but it would certainly be possible, while ungainly and pointless, to spell using binary digits.
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« Reply #10 on: September 14, 2002, 08:57:32 pm »
     There's a pattern for every character by definition. It's not a mathematical thing or anything. You've probably all heard of ASCII. The ASCII alphabet, ASCII binary, ASCII something-or-other. ASCII is a longstanding standard for representing alphanumeric characters using binary numbers. Before ASCII, each computer manufacturer had their own way of handling that representation. This was less than optimal, so the ASCII (American Standards Committee for Information Interchange, if I remember correctly) created a universal standard (universal  in America, anyway), which became known (unsurprisingly) as ASCII.

     In ASCII, each character is assigned a one-byte equivalent. One byte can represent 256 different values, so ASCII covers the lowercase alphabet, the uppercase alphabet, the digits 0-9, and various unprintable "control" characters like tabs and carriage returns. The best thing about ASCII is that it was designed with character manipulation in mind. For instance, each lowercase letter is 32 higher than its uppercase equivalent. So if I have a letter and I want to capitalize it, I simply add 32 and poof, it's uppercase.
     ::whips out a C textbook for the ASCII chart::
     ! is 33 or 0010 0001, * is 42 or 0010 1010, A is 65 or 0100 0001, etc.

     So ASCII has been used (for representing English, anyway) for 20-some years now, I think. It's now being superseded by a different, global standard called Unicode. Unicode's main advantage is that it's a two-byte system, which allows for a truly huge number of character representations. Two bytes is greater than a million or so, anyway, and I think it's more.
     The Unicode Consortium is basically trying to assign every character used in every language worldwide to some 16-bit number. It's a good idea. It'll make programming for international release far simpler. Or far easier. Or some combination of the two.
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« Reply #11 on: September 14, 2002, 10:55:18 pm »
Jezus Loth, take a breath...  
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« Reply #12 on: September 15, 2002, 03:36:07 am »
Did you guys know gullable isn't in the dictionary?
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« Reply #13 on: September 15, 2002, 03:54:44 am »
Yeah, gullable isn't because that's not how you spell it?
Gullible is however, and we aren't gullible enough to go look it up. Smiley Some other people might though? Nice try though?
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« Reply #14 on: September 15, 2002, 05:11:53 am »
***Snipe goes to look up gullible.

***Snipe can't find it

wtf it's not in my dictionary. can someone look in their dictionary to see if it's there? I mean, I thought it was a joke, but it's not in my colleigate dictionary.  
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« Reply #15 on: September 15, 2002, 05:45:23 am »
It was a joke and it should be there, lmao.
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« Reply #16 on: September 15, 2002, 05:52:38 am »
i've seen some old coders that can actually make sense of hex on the fly.  that is scarry.  when i get that bad, shoot me.
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« Reply #17 on: September 15, 2002, 05:55:09 am »
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« Reply #18 on: September 15, 2002, 07:04:20 am »
Quote from: Deadeye on September 15, 2002, 05:52:38 am
i've seen some old coders that can actually make sense of hex on the fly.  that is scarry.  when i get that bad, shoot me.



Anyone who can make sense of anything lower than assembly language (hell, even assembly language) should be shot. Well, that or forced to go outside finally.
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« Reply #19 on: September 15, 2002, 07:49:44 am »
lol no not the dreded outside!!

there i cant say things to peoples faces like i do over my computer

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