Which is the Best Special Op's Unit in the U.S.?

[Mr.Mellow]

What he meant was, he has trained and/OR served with all of them. And yes, it is a well-known fact that U.S., Canadian, U.K., and Australian special forces cross-train with one another. Probably a lot of other countries too, like Germany. Well, I guess I can't say the information is well-known, but if you watch a lot of History channel, or you're just well informed, you'd know.

[BTs_GhostSniper]

Well, by best I mean Best Trained.....also, after a day of voting I will tell you which one creates the Bravest soldiers.....the answer might suprise you.

Okay, the answer is......

The U.S. Air Force Pararescuemen.

These are the guys who jump into hell holes that every other special forces unit wants to get out of.  They are among the best trained military forces in the entire world, as they have to complete or go through parts of Airborne School, Ranger School, SEAL Training, Combat Medic School, Special Forces School, and several others.  To be a Pararescueman you have to be Jump Qualified, Scuba Qualified, Air Assault Qualified, HALO Qualified, Expert Medic Qualified, and you have to train in aerial gunnery.

One example of the bravery of these fine men is the Medal of Honor Citation for SRA William Pitsenbarger:

The President of the United States in the name of The Congress takes pleasure in presenting the Medal of Honor to

Pitsenbarger, William H.

Rank and organization: Airman First Class, U.S. Air Force
Detachment 6, 38th Aerospace Rescue and Recovery Squadron, Bien Hoa Air Base, Republic of Vietnam.  
Place and Date: Near Cam My, 11 April 1966.  
Entered service at: Piqua, Ohio.  
Born: 8 July 1944, Piqua, Ohio

Citation:
Airman First Class Pitsenbarger distinguished himself by extreme valor on 11 April 1966 near Cam My, Republic of Vietnam, while assigned as a Pararescue Crew Member, Detachment 6, 38th Aerospace Rescue and Recovery Squadron.  On that date, Airman Pitsenbarger was aboard a rescue helicopter responding to a call for evacuation of casualties incurred in an on-going firefight between elements of the United States Army's 1st Infantry Division and a sizable enemy force approximately 35 miles east of Saigon.  With complete disregard for personal safety, Airman Pitsenbarger volunteered to ride a hoist more than one hundred feet through the jungle, to the ground.  On the ground, he organized and coordinated rescue efforts, cared for the wounded, prepared casualties for evacuation, and insured that the recovery operation continued in a smooth and orderly fashion.  Through his personal efforts, the evacuation of the wounded was greatly expedited.  As each of the nine casualties evacuated that day were recovered, Pitsenbarger refused evacuation in order to get one more wounded soldier to safety.   After several pick-ups, one of the two rescue helicopters involved in the evacuation was struck by heavy enemy ground fire and was forced to leave the scene for an emergency landing.  Airman Pitsenbarger stayed behind, on the ground, to perform medical duties.  Shortly thereafter, the area came under sniper and mortar fire.   During a subsequent attempt to evacuate the site, American forces came under heavy assault by a large Viet Cong force.  When the enemy launched the assault, the evacuation was called off and Airman Pitsenbarger took up arms with the besieged infantrymen.  He courageously resisted the enemy, braving intense gunfire to gather and distribute vital ammunition to American defenders.  As the battle raged on, he repeatedly exposed himself to enemy fire to care for the wounded, pull them out of the line of fire, and return fire whenever he could, during which time, he was wounded three times.  Despite his wounds, he valiantly fought on, simultaneously treating as many wounded as possible.  In the vicious fighting which followed, the American forces suffered 80 percent casualties as their perimeter was breached, and airman Pitsenbarger was finally fatally wounded.  Airman Pitsenbarger exposed himself to almost certain death by staying on the ground, and perished while saving the lives of wounded infantrymen.  His bravery and determination exemplify the highest professional standards and traditions of military service and reflect great credit upon himself, his unit, and the United States Air Force.


The Motto of the Pararescuemen is:

"These things we do that others may live."

[alaric]

PJs pwn. Nuff said.

It is actually very possible that GhostSniper has trained with all the above units. Rangers do attend many types of advanced infantry schools which these other units also attend. This does not mean anything special really. It's similar to saying: "I went to high school with <insert celebrity name here>." It's also important for these units to practice working with each other so that there are as few problems as possible if they ever have to work together in the field someday.

While interesting and occasionally impressive, it's nothing really amazing. If he had served with (or even been downrange with) most/all of these units, I would be very impressed.

[BFG]

OK ok, i take it back Ghost. Appologies i miss interpreted what you were saying when u said you had served and traiined with with them - i read it as you sayind that you had "trained" them and had Served as a full member over a period of time...

I should really stop posting when im in a bad mood... its not good. Appologies

[|MP|Buccaneer]

If you guys are a fan of the EcoChallenge, the US Armed Forces had a contest last year to see who would represent them.  Everyone from SEAL's to Marine Forced Recon were there.  PJ's kicked all their asses.

FYI, the Coasties didn't fare to bad either.  And should have been mentioned.

[Toxic::Joka]

Maybe its so obvious that i shouldnt be asking....PJ's  

[The Golden Shark]

by coasties, do you mean coastguard, cuz they are the fucking kings of the land... interms of training and requirments. I know, only cuz ive done some lifeguarding, and the county and the coast work closley...

[j47]

Green Berets are also widely used from a rescue mission in the Congo, to Vietnam, to Afghanistan, to Iraq, to Panama, to many small brushfire conflicts in Latin America. Green Berets have been there and have modernized allied infantry all over the world (some of these allied infantry units arent very humane such as the death squads in Nicaragua, but are well trained none the less).

Coss, it was the C.I.A who trained these soldiers, from the late 70's all the way through afgan.

[BTs_GhostSniper]

Maybe its so obvious that i shouldnt be asking....PJ's  

PJ's=P'Jocks=Pararescue Jumpers=Pararescuemen

[alaric]

Coss, it was the C.I.A who trained these soldiers, from the late 70's all the way through afgan.

Are you talking about Special Forces soldiers being trained by the CIA or the Indigenous Forces of those 3rd world countries being trained by the CIA?

Oh well, it dosn't really matter because you're wrong in either case. The CIA might also have operations in those countries but the main purpose of Special Forces is to train the Indigenous Foces of other countries.

[JeBuS]

only one of u is right DElta force pwns all, if ur at a book store pick up.....Inside Delta Force by Eric,L.Hanye these guys trained for at least like 8 years, the people in it are from all diffrent units around the world so its like the guys from the best units all rolled into one. If u read the part about the selection period.....126 people tryed out 12 people made it. Alot of them were special forces, seals para rescue men ect.

[bronto]

by coasties, do you mean coastguard, cuz they are the fucking kings of the land

kings of the...sea?

[BTs_GhostSniper]

by coasties, do you mean coastguard, cuz they are the fucking kings of the land

kings of the...sea?

lol....good point bronto.

[*NADS Foxy]

Isn't this post "Which is the best unit?" not "which is the bravest?"

My vote: Navy S.E.A.L.s

[BTs_GhostSniper]

Isn't this post "Which is the best unit?" not "which is the bravest?"

My vote: Navy S.E.A.L.s

Yes, this post is which is the best unit....best trained, most lethal, etc.

A side question was which unit trains the bravest soldiers.