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« on: February 21, 2003, 02:37:44 am »

Is the USA the main treath in the world for WW111?  
War against terror is pure oil interest using the victems of 9sept, this seams pretty dirty.  
The USA is number 1  the most dangerous  (with mass destruction weapons) and aggresive nation , in the world.
What is your opinion?
(i'm not against the people of the USA, I consider you as friends)
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« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2003, 04:59:38 am »

Sure the U.S. is the most dangerous , you mess with the states you get the horns . As for biggest threat against peace , thats bullsh@t . We just don't like takin it in the @ss like other countries .  But alot of the U.S.'s actions vary depending on if a Dem or Rep is in office . I know the Dems want to see the U.S. turn into a wussy @ss european like nation bowing to the U.N. .
Politics make me sick .......  Angry
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« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2003, 08:46:10 pm »

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(i'm not against the people of the USA, I consider you as friends)

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Where are you from?
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« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2003, 12:07:35 am »

Hey Masiro, I won't argue about motives with ya, none of us really know all the details about the Iraq situation, but I don't believe it's all about oil. The US only imports 3.2 percent of it's oil from Iraq, we actually get waaay more oil from Venezuela. Now the state of Venezuela these days, not too many people would complain if it was taken over!

Remember this, during the Bosnian conflict when Clinton sent in US forces to help out, there was no Congresional approval, no UN committe's unanimous decision, no declaration of war, we just went in. Bottom line, no big dramatic media campaign beforehand. But Clinton was a foreign policy master, a lot like a good lawyer. Depending on your perspective, that can be a good or bad thing.

Now Bush is no genius, (it's obvious his cabinet runs the show and he's got some brilliant speechwriters) and his mistake is that he's stacked the deck against himself through a short sighted foreign policy.  One hand washes the other, and you never know when you'll need somebody to go your way. If you piss off the wrong ally, they can toss a wrench into your plans at the worst time. That's what's happening now. I think we should go into Iraq simply because he has broken his agreements from Desert Storm. Unfortunately, when you do so much PR and go one way, then another, talk tough, then agree to another resolution, it's just appears as a lack of resolve.

Now there are many layers to the story, and sure, the entire current administration is composed of ex-CEO's and corporate bigwigs, some of whom have had past business dealings with Iraq (Cheney was CEO of Halliburton, an oil firm, and Ashcroft also shook Saddam's hand a few times.), but the most important thing is that removing him will be one less problem to worry about. Sure, somebody always profits, somebody always suffers, but think about it in the context of 10 years from now.

Masiro, your name is Japanese so I assume you are also? Remember, if the US is the most agressive nation then that's to your benefit, since North Korea has nukes aimed at Japan and we are really the main reason they don't use them. The same applies for many nations...
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« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2003, 09:46:28 pm »

my neighbor was involed alot with that Bosnia conflict when they went over tehre, was few yrs back i remember, and to that fact of that, my OthEr neighor's were from Bosnia themselves.  Bosia is actally very beautiful in alot of places, and for the fact they dont even have laws or what not, kids buy alcohol, throw cigarets on ground, and like naturual grape vines growing on your garage. And the ladies are hella pretty as well  Cool
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