Ok Saberian, when you said "Let US not post anymore, i was under the impression you meant you and i, so i did not inform any other members of my clan.  That was just a misunderstanding between us.  I only responded earlier this afternoon, because since you put up a post i figured the agreement was off.

I think you and I should stop posting only, not our entire clans.  They have a right to speak their minds if they want.

Lone-Wolf

SNIPE- great post. exactly how i've seen most corner-tyoe glitches, as opposed to the crater-type which are easier to be aware of from the glitchers point-of-view.

One other concept to add here.... we almost never are seeing the exact same picture from player to player in ghost recon. The only thing that matters in evaluating whether or not lone wolf knew he was glitching is what was on his screen during that game. As an observer, you don't see EXACTLY what he sees, and ditto for a replay recorded elsewhere, especially when played at .25 speed.  

I'm no techinical genius, but ghr is sending very limited data from the players to the server about what a given player is doing, and likewise the data coming to his machine about the other players is limited. For example, when observing other players in a quick firefight, they will often seem to be shooting slightly off target, yet hitting their opponent anyway. I see this all the time. I believe it happens because the data coming to me from that player (via the server) is not EXACTLY what he is doing, but an approximation. The server is giving me his data (his position on the map, which way he is facing, his body position, his shooting, peeking, movements, etc) in a somewhat abstracted way...it isnt exactly what he's doing, but its pretty close, broken into packets of info sent out a 'few' times a second. My machine is trying to keep up with all these packets from all the players...and so things I see are slightly distorted from what he sees.

My point is...if you play a replay from another machine, at an abnormnal speed, you're getting a version of the truth which is somewhat distorted. It might be an interesting test one day to record the same frantic firefight on several machines at once, and see how the replays compare at .25 speed. I bet they won't quite match up. And the replays are likely to be closer to one another than the real-time play was, given lag, etc.

Anyway, my two cents.

And by the way, Nova's opinion is just as good as anyone else's. Whether he's 'with diesel' or not.

Wolf does not speak for BTs we will wait until mauti has decided what he is going to do.

Alright guys,

maybe I missed it but at which score did the glitch game happen!?

However you both agree that Lone Wolf had an advantage due a glitch(which can happen in a game). As a consequence, in mind that it is only a game,  just repeat the game in question. Same number of player, on the same server, on the same map and the same team. Players can be different ones if you don't get the same players to play.

Agree to a time for a regame which must be played until 27th may 12:00am CET. If you don't play it until 27th may I'll set a time. You can use the final challenge mode(see BL rules) if you have troubles to agree to a time.

Yep that's it. I hope you can live with this decision.

Bye,

Mauti

Nova? where did the eight games come from? we were only playing best of seven!?!

The final score was 4-2-1

The match in question ended up being a tie... The score at the time of this happening was 3-1...

Sounds good and fair.. eight we'll need to organise a time when both clans can finnish this ........