Actually the GHR ladder was most active without DBL Map Pack 1 & 2....

Clans would do over 50 cbs each... now your lucky if a clan has more then 25 cbs... so no it didnt make the league better.... and adding the map packs a week before finals just made it worst....

Especially with the bugs....

It's always the same. When something new is coming out everyone complains about it some points are valid some aren't and with the time everyone plays it and learn to like it.

I just remember the Warzone debate, the first BL Map pack debate and now the same with the second version. In comparison to the first map pack release this one has much less bugs and don't argue with that few maps have glitches because there is hardly an original GhR without glitching possibilities. Of course this can be annoying but unfortunaly it's unavoidable.

As Splinter said it you can both agree to play not any of the *DBL maps but there are many guys who enjoy the new challenge and map layouts.

ughh... eight i noticed... Civic, some will agree with the new mappacks and some will disagree.. but w/e


Btw BTs GG's We Should do a new one and find more ..

Civic, I did'nt mean downhill as in less games being played. What i meant is the game is becoming less enjoyable, this may because of all the new clans and less veteran clans also partly. I'm not putting all the balme on the mappacks, but in my opinion they just are'nt as fun as they used to be.

Perhaps we should have an Embassy-Only ladder for all the whiney bitches who cannot accept change.  The new map packs are making things more interesting and sometimes more frustrating, but the downhill of GhR was happening way before map packs.  Seasons are shorter, people are getting burned out by GhR, RvS is now out, AA was finally improved for play on Mac, and this time of year keeps many people busy.  The next two seasons will most likely, based on past seasons, be the best and most active seasons we have seen since Season 4 & 5.

I love it when comments from unestablished players and unestablished clans make their way here in the manner in which they appear.  It just makes them all look like a bunch of noobs.  Try giving valid points with your argument, and maybe, just maybe, someone will listen.  Otherwise, you're just taking up space on this forum.  Think before you type folks.

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That's what im talkin about .....Workin to gether as a whole...
We can do anything... Now when w egonna do a MAC vs PC ladder...


woooot......

we workin on  it,,,just witin for the finals to free up...

Well, Acri.  I must respectfully object to that because it can easily be held off by the smoke owning team.  Unfortunately, these maps, as well as the DAMN BL mappack #1 hasnt been fully tested and unfortunately shouldnt have ever come out until they were "Finished for DAMN BL"  My big issue is that I dont think that a map should be submitted to BL until it is fully tested in every way possible that DAMN BL allows you to require.  There seems to be too many loopholes and whatnot thru the maps and that is why I do plan on working on them asap with Revolt and Eight (God willing now that this issue with BTs and Mp5 is over).  In any event it is my firm belief that these maps because of the new rules of BL should be re-evaluated and dealt with accordingly.  Which I plan on doing now.

As for the Chalet map, yes, that smoke spot has already been changed because of the underground camping issue that was rearing it's ugly head by just the simplest of testing.  Again, this map should have NOT been released as for many of the other maps.  My apologies for being a little upset at this, but let's face it.  With these DAMN BL maps and the new rules there are just too many issues that have become present as of now.  We will be addressing them and fixing them soon.  Most likely before the upcoming season.

:MoD:Saberian

P.S.  I plan on incorporating Bigtex from my clan as well to help with the modding because of his obvious skill in porting adn creating maps for Ghost Recon specifically.  More shortly.

lol remygpower, we know ... but else thx


Stripes

As for the maps they have been tested...they have been out far longer than just this season..If you test each map for bugs...They have just as many as any normal ghr map....MP06 Castle is the original demo map and also available in full version yet there are glitches...there still to this day..Does it mean the maps are horrible? No..I mean u could test all you want but point is these maps have been out for over a year in the PC world....and in the ghr world.. You can never fix ever map from bugs.. Like in battlefield you can glitch in bunkers.. But doesn't mean you should... Every map has pros and cons, I have hear peole love and hate almost every map... The  only thing we can really do to maps is mod spawn points...As far as fixing maps.. Why dont we start with mp06 castle... It has glitches and faults as well.. All maps have glitches, bugs, etc...There were additional maps that woulda been on map pack 2 but mauti didnt approve...We can all work together as to where teh spawns should be as we did in map 1.5...That would be great... As far as future maps, next year take the problem by the neck.... And pick out maps....
I mean if 1.5 and 2.0 are not "Finished for DAMN BL" maps...Then why would Mauti release em?.They never will be unless you plan on opening maps in 3d studio max and fixin glitches... You think the Frostbite maps havent been played and tested by top moders in the ghr community? all the maps and mods we have come from PC modders...which are tested tried and true.
All we can do is change spawns....

That would be impossible.... Im not knockin your comment Sab or anyone, just lettin yall know where the maps come from...in map pack 2.0 i aimed at more "ghr style maps"...map pack 1.0 seemed like Counterstrike style maps thus i selected the small, medium, and large maps in map pack 2..which were alot mro e "like " ghr maps... Some of the first maps that woulda been greta additions..Mauti didnt approve.. So I went from there... I never compiled the maps to defy the DAMN admins...I did it to add to the longevity of Ghost Recon!! And together we can all add to make em better... And like Mauti says..if you dont like em dont cb with em!! Its very simple..

New maps are not bad, they jsut need to be learned then they become classics... Peole often do not like what they are not familiar with...

I mean there are maps that i would pick in regular ghr that make most peoples toes curl (Ravine, Valley, Docks Night, Caves, Wilderness), but they are unpopular maps and people dislike bein in a situation they are not familiar with.....

A true soilder (ghost) can adapt to any terrain or circumstance..

I love you all and may Ghost Recon live forever...
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