*DAMN R6 Forum

If there was any interest, I would love to set up a Diplomacy game for anyone who wants to play. Moves would probably be every two days, plus I'll handle finalizing them and creating a map that we can post on the web somewhere.

I want to play too, so if we devise some method of secure move submission, I would only read everyone's moves after my own had been submitted. if that makes sense.

What is a Diplomacy Game?

Yeah, you gotta explain this a bit further.

Gah, I assumed people would know how to play.

Diplomacy is a game similar to Risk, but not based at all on chance. It's a board game set in 1900 with 50 or so provinces. Unlike Risk, only one army (or fleet) can occupy a province. Turns are three per year: 1 spring and 1 fall, which consist of movement and combat only, and then a winter turn, which consists of both movement and the transfer of control of occupied provinces, and you can also build or lose armies in winter based upon the number of supply centers you control.

Supply centers are the lifeblood of the game: there are 34 total. Each country (except Russia, who has 4 initially) starts with 3. The number of supply centers you control determines the number of units you have on the board. 1 supply center=1 unit (army or fleet)

The rules are a bit more complex than this, so if it sounds interesting, check out http://www.diplomacy-archive.com/diplomacy_rules.htm

There are also some maps at that link. I should've mentioned the game is set in Europe. 7 nations are represented in the game.

... sounds great, but how exactly are you going to make this happen?

I've played the board game a lot, and it's good fun. However, do not play with emotional people and never ever a girlfriend! The point is to establish alliances with people and using them to get you an advantage. Though it is important to note that no alliances final, meaning that you can break them as you wish. It does sound interesting to me.

that site is slower than molasses. i'll try to check it later, but in general i'm down to try this.

Well, it's pretty easy to setup a board on the net. You can edit the maps to reflect the borders and positions of armies as they change (for an example, check out www.aresaxis.us/diplomacy.php ). And in addition to the map, the moves would be posted here in the forum as soon as they are final (as soon as everyone submits them and I play them out on the map).

And as Brutha said, the diplomacy is the best part of the game.

So, as soon as we get 7 people who want to play (one to represent each of the major powers in Europe), then I'll setup the map on a Geocities site somewhere.

 I'll give this a whirl as long as Brutha forms an alliance with me right now.

Alright, well, POST HERE if you're interested, folks... we need more players than myself, Brutha, and Dark. 4 more players. :) So we can pick nations once we have all 7 players.

Sounds like fun, count me in!
I gonna get my fav enemy to play this too- Vermin!  ::bussi::

-Tin

I'll play as well. Sounds like good fun  :)

Dark, I'll create an alliance with you......if there is something for me to gain from it.

 To avoid my extreme wrath brutha? :P

So we have 6 players so far. Need just one more!

In the meantime, start reviewing the rules of diplomacy on this site:
http://www.diplomacy-archive.com/diplomacy_rules.htm

Once we have that 7th player, we can choose nations :) (oh, and play)

Alright. I will get Vermin! :o

sounds interesting... im in. =)

Ein

Alright! Let's get to work! Roster:

Blade
Dark
Brutha
Tin
Vermin
Phara
Ein

That's all 7 players. Now we need to select nations. Everyone, just post your order of preference (most preferable to least preferable nations) in a forum post.

France
Russia
Britain
Italy
Austria
Germany
Ottoman Empire

That's my order of preference, and those are the 7 nations represented in the game. So, all players, post your own preferences!

Russia
Britain
Germany
France
Austria
Ottomon Empire
Italy

Ein out

 
Britain
Ottoman Empire
Germany
Russia
Italy
Austria
France

Britain
France
Italy
Germany
Austria
Ottoman Empire
Russia

France
Britain
Russia
Ottoman Empire
Italy
Austria
Germany

1...2...3... yep... thats it 6 players. Ein, Blade, Brutha, Dark, Tin, and Phara... were missing one and it aint vermin cause he has never even posted in this thread to show any interest in playing. Who is #7? Mr. T?

Ein

Tin has neither posted his nation selection nor gotten Vermin into the game... like he should have... :)

Booooooo me!

Britain
Russia
Germany
Ottoman Empire
Italy
Austria
France

Vermin, Vermin doesnt even know about this game, I just forget to tell him  … mmmmh
booo me once again!

please tell him ASAP...

 ::sniper::

k.

I'm not in this. :P

Moooo!  ::nade::

Apparently we need someone else …

Yes, there is a slot open now. Anyone? Mr. T, want to play?

Damnit. I keep forgetting to check this part of the forum. send me a mail when we are ready to go, please.

Sorry... count me out... too busy to even check the forums let alone play.

GL.

GRMBL …   ::sniper::

I will ask around … we'll see … I so wanna get this game going  >:(

yeah me too  ::uzi::

Suggetion for all of you wanting to play this - subscribe to the thread so you recieve an email when it is updated!

ok, so BFG signed up now, does that make seven?  ::bussi::

(no he didn't, but I do wish he would try ;))

Hey, this is not a joke or anything. We can't play until we get a #7

sorry guys... but i'll post that you need a 7th man on the main page!

Well, I suggest we keep looking. But there is one problem. In 4 weeks I start my exams, and I have 4 essays to write before that. Keep your eyes open for a 7th person, and plan and prepare the game so that we can start early next year. I won't be done with university before the 15th of desember. If thats too long to wait for you, then you got to look for a 6th player as well.

World domination can wait until the 15th :)

Edit: many thanks BFG!

all right all done. :)  Someone better sign up i want to see how this turns out!! ;)

If there is another spot open, I'm definately down to play.

Good... Jerk makes 7 and a full game. All have posted their preferences for countries except for Jerk so it on him now and then we can get this started. Right?

Ein

Yay we can play at last  ::applause::

Sorry, but in case you didn't notice, I can't start up until mid desember. So if you want to start now, you need a new 7th player.

Austria
Ottoman Empire
Germany
Britain
France
Italy
Russia

AAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRR ……………………… ::shot::

Thanks for signing up, jerkasaur.

Alright, it shouldn't be too hard for someone else to sign up :)

I'll go ahead and set up the site to host the map image this weekend. the link will appear in this forum, which we will use for move submission and etc. Everyone else, if you haven't already, familiarize yourself with the rules.

Oh, and I suggest move submission happens every two days, except weekends. So, you would be submitting moves every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday. I think that works out well 'cause there are 3 turns in a year, so every week would be a year in-game.

There is no need for you to wait for me if you wish to start now. The game is fully playable, and just as enjoyable with 6 players(only). I've played the game with 5 players and had a great time. I'll join you for the next round should there be one.

THE GAME IS STARTING.

Brutha has a point. While it would be nice to have all 7 nations, it is fine to play with 6 nations. So, what happens with only 6 nations is the Ottoman Empire is wiped from the map. No one can enter the Ottoman Empire now. It's "neutral" like Ireland and Switzerland and Iceland and Siberia.

I also finished up nation selections. I'll take a minute to explain it, in case there are any protests as to my method.

First, I went through all your lists and deleted the Ottoman Empire (not present in the game). Then, I checked if there were any contested nations in the first-choice-slots. This way, Blade, Ein, and Jerkasaur already had their nations. But Dark, Phara, and Tin had contested Britain. So I flipped a coin a few times. First I flipped between Dark and Phara. Dark won. I gave him a point. Then I flipped between Phara and Tin. Phara won-I gave him a point. Then I flipped between Dark and Phara again. Dark won. Dark got Britain. Then, going down to the most preferable nation that wasn't already taken (or the Ottoman Empire), Phara got Italy and Tin Germany.

So, to list:

Blade-France
Ein-Russia
Dark-Britain
Phara-Italy
Tin-Germany
Jerkasaur-Austria

As a rules note: For our game, if you move a unit out of a province, you can move another unit to that province in the same turn. BUT units cannot switch provinces. However, this only works for units controlled by you. For instance, if your ALLY moved out of a province, and you wanted to move into the province in the same turn, you couldn't. Such a move order would be considered an attack. So don't do that.

You ask me, how is move submission going to work? You will email your moves to me. Yes, you heard me correctly. my email is pcottrell@mad.scientist.com
If you PM me here at *DAMN, I won't ever find your moves. So here is what I ask. Title every email you send to that address with your confidential moves "DIPLOMACY MOVES" so I know not to open it. I can't prove to you that I'm not cheating, but I will swear not to read your moves until a.) mine are finalized and I submitted them to myself and b.) I have received everyone's. If you submit illegal moves, I won't move the units in question.

Everyone review http://www.diplomacy-archive.com/diplomacy_rules.htm and learn how to notate your moves (and the rules of the game). Remember that if a fleet is on a coastal province, you usually need to specify which coast. There WILL BE A BOARD involved in this game. I will upload a map to www.geocities.com/ublade81/ and update it every time moves are finalized. I will also post ALL finalized moves in chronological order on that site. That means this thread will be mostly just chat.

So, if I've forgotten anything, tell me. If you have any questions, either email me at pcottrell@mad.scientist.com or send me an IM screenname=eeediotpaul
Also contact me if you seek an alliance with the French Empire. To all of you, I think it would be wise to post some external contact information here, so people can reach you and hold diplomatic talks. :)

The first moves (Fall 1901) will be due by next Monday. Spring 1901 is simply the starting map. Good luck to you all!

EDIT: one more thing. With the elimination of the Ottoman Empire, we also cannot enter Bulgaria. It too is neutral. And we can move fleets directly from the Black Sea to the Aegean Sea.

Just in case someone needs to reach me for diplomatic reasons, you can either contact me by email (ein411@hotmail.com) or you can always pm me on GR at "ghra Ein." I'm on GR almost every day for at least an hour, maybe more if I am off work and being a slug (which will happen more with the season starting up this weekend as well)

Oh and just to remind you all, Russia makes a good ally. we get more units. Viva la Russia.

Ein

Im open to negotiations, my email is moddark@gmail.com[/size]

Open to negotiations  :)

my email is ghra.phara@hotmail.com

I as well, kenyonf@gmail.com

Oh, and I assume we are using the most recent set of rules. Is that correct?

Hmm … max_gertoberens@web.de …

Jerkasaur, essentially all the rules are the same, just published in more or less detail. We are not, however, playing to control only 18 provinces. We're playing to the death - or until everyone stops playing and wants a new round.

I guess what I mean to say is look at the oldest rule packets on that page. If you have a rules question, consult the next least recent manual, and so on. Or just ask me. I haven't bothered looking over ALL the manuals, but I can't see how the rules of this simple a game can change too much...

Ok, there are 3 emails in my inbox that contain move submissions. And that's good, because moves were due today, but...

Germany and Italy still need to submit theirs. Hurry up.

Well, no, I won't be that strict so early in the game. Plus we don't have a regular time for move submissions...

How does every Monday and Friday sound? every monday is very slow... If no one has any objections, that will be the regular move submission rate. And I won't accept any more late moves.

And if it's OK with you all, can we add an Ottoman Empire really quick? There's a guy I know in real life who wants to play, and I haven't made the first map yet.

M-W-F please (monday wednesday friday) that will make the game go by a bit quicker, and if you cant spare 10 minutes to look over the board and decide your move, well , too bad.  I think if they dont submit by wednesday though oBlade update the board...
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It was clearly stated that moves were due on Monday, everyone saw it, everyone knew about it. If they forgot, that's their loss. War doesn't wait for each person to be ready.

As for the Ottoman Empire, I'm not against it (though I should be because I'm Austria), but I wish you would have let us know sooner.

Maybe we could get a rule clarification - Are we now not allowed to enter a neutral provice (Spain, Sweden, Serbia, etc)? I could find no information in any of the rule books which said that we couldn't, and not being able to move into those provinces to secure those supply depots doesn't make any sense.

I agree with jerk on both of these. All posted their email information after you posted when the move due dates were so all knew when they had to have their moves in by. If they dont make a move subm,ition, in the rules it that the particular country who did not move is in civil disorder. All countries hold and none support each other since no support was declared. I think everyone should be aware of this rule and if you are not, then you are after reading this. It is important that everyone makes their moves in a timely fashion.

As for the Ottoman Empire joining, I have no problem with this either but would have prefered to know before I submitted my first moves or made any alliances.

A suggestion to clear up both issues would be to start either Wed or Friday (preferably Friday so I can get alliances in order) whch would allow any other players to introduce themselves and join the game and would allow all players a chance to submit their moves again (in a timely manner) not that everyone is aware of the civil disorder rule.

I know Jerk asked a question which I was also interested in but I have another to raise. If we continue with the Mon/Wed/Fri move submittal, in the event that an army is ousted, when would they have to have their retreat order in so that everyone could see that before planning their next move?

Ein

Ein, this makes perfect sense, but there's one problem. Germany is the only one who hasn't submitted, and I don't want anyone getting mad because they got crushed because we couldn't wait just once for them.

Jerkasaur, you can enter all neutral provinces except the ones that you can't. :)

That means you can enter anything except Switzerland. As for the Monday Wednesday Friday thing, I personally hate it. I enjoyed communicating with other nations to plan this first move. You won't have any time to do that if we are submitting moves every other day. Plus, it technically takes 4 move submissions to complete a year (my mistake guys). There are 2 submissions for winter. The first one, to move units, the second, to place and remove units because of supply centers changing hands.

Ein, to answer your question about the retreats... that's one more reason Mon Wed Fri is too short! I would be updating the map too much too.

So, I'm sorry to those that want it, but the Monday Wednesday Friday thing is out. Unless anyone else has a suggestion (with the days more spread out), it'll be Monday Friday Monday Friday. That way we cover a year in 2 weeks...

One more thing. I'll get (force) the Ottoman guy to post some contact info here. I can get his moves in person, so.

Just waiting on Germany. NEXT MOVES DUE FRIDAY. And if anyone is late, ever again, the civil disorder rule will apply. But not on the first turn guys.

EDIT: I left much unanswered in that post. About the retreat orders. Send them to me the day after them map is updated. That way I can immediately go and update the map again. And I guess I will have to notify you people if you need to submit retreat orders.

And as for move submission. I am unhappy with the Monday Friday Monday Friday thing. Let's try...
Monday Friday Wednesday Friday
That way you have plenty of time for the normal moves, but placing and removing armies (as it should) takes much less than the rest. The second phase winter moves would be due on the second Fridays. Any questions?

hi, i'm gonna be fighting in the little corner known as turkey, wahoo ::stupid::

Too late for you, Tin. I can't wait any longer for Germany's moves. So. Map is now updated at www.geocities.com/ublade81

Next moves (first phase Winter 1901) are due next Monday. Second phase will be due the Friday after that, and then we will proceed with the Monday Friday Wednesday Friday scenario. If someone doesn't understand, has a petition, or has questions about that move submission schedule, speak now. I won't be announcing when moves are due once we're on that schedule.

Hi again guys, sorry i didnt join earlier, i am oBlade's friend from school, and he only told me last friday, and i forgot over the weekend :-X  so it is mostly my fault nobody knew i was going to play.

Well, i will be checking my mail levinejoey@yahoo.com pretty much every day if anyone wants to make alliances and stuff.  Personally, i will wait for the first moves to be posted to see who i want to ally with.

Ottoman

Sooo... you gonna update the map or not?

Pay attention :)

I did, I checked for hours after you said that it was updated and it still wasn't....

Well, the map looks pretty much exactly the same, since no provinces changed hands, but I did type in a little marker that tells you where units are. That's not very obvious, but I did post the finalized moves under the map, if you scroll down.

IMPORTANT:

Austria pointed something out a really stupid mistake of mine in an email he sent to me. Disregard everything I have said so far about move submission (the Spring, Fall, First phase winter, Second phase winter bullshit).

There are only 3 turns in a year. Spring, Fall, and Winter. Winter is a build turn. Earlier, I had you guys submitting Fall move orders, and Winter move AND build orders. This happened because I notated the spawn points as Spring 1901 moves. Well that's wrong

The moves that will be due Monday are Fall 1901 moves. They will not be build moves. The moves due the following Friday will be Winter 1901 (build moves). The ones you've already submitted were Spring 1901 moves, and I will edit the map page to reflect that.

So, we need to devise a new move submission schedule. The Monday Wednesday Friday think isn't looking so bad now. So, starting from the monday after this monday, moves will be due as follows:

Spring moves - Monday
Fall moves - Wednesday
Winter moves - Friday

I ask that you submit moves as early as possible, so I can update the map and immediately contact people about retreats. Retreat moves will be due on Tuesdays and Thursdays, and I will email you on Monday or Wednesday if you need to submit them.

Sorry about this. Keep playing though. I promise no more stupid mistakes. ::wall::

Are you going to me updating the province colors, so we know which countries occuply which provinces?

Yes, but provinces don't officially change hands until after Fall. So the map will look the same through the year.

Just to clarify, next moves are due by monday, correct? And that is for fall 1901?

Ein

Yup

Seeing as this looks like a long term thread, duly 'stickied'

I don't know what happened today, but the only people to submit moves today are Dark and me (of course). So everyone else needs to get their moves in ASAP.

EDIT: I forgot the Ottoman Empire. he gave me moves this afternoon, too. And I just got an email from Russia. So that leaves Italy, Germany, and Austria

w00t, I managed sending you my moves - amazing.

Regarding to the rules,  when do we have to send the retreating/disbanding orders and my rule guide tells nothin' about a winter phase so i suppose that you just divided the fall phase in  fall and winter ?


-Tin

oBlade, we do need to become more strict on submissions, a deadline is a deadline.[/size]

Just to inform, some of us do work daytime jobs. I got home from work to see that post about people not moving. It was only 6pm my time. I had all of Monday and I did in fact get my moves in. Hoping that others did the same...

Ein

Sorry i've had so much work lately with exams and all that i might not to be able to play until friday again  :(
maybe i have to miss this turn but i will try to get moves in for wednesday

I won't let Austria invade you too hard, phara.

Dark, I agree about the move submission, but it's just pointless to play if half the people aren't included in the game.

Tin, the winter move is just the build orders immediately after the Fall turn (yes, I split the Fall phase). Since unit disbanding happens with unit building, those moves ("Winter" build moves) are due on Fridays. Retreat moves are due the day after I email you that you have retreat orders to submit. That means they are due on Tuesdays and Thursdays, 'cause I will email you right after I update the map.

I understand about the job thing, but you could just submit your moves a day early. Especially for the Monday submissions. Just email me earlier (I won't cheat).

Rules note: If you manage to miss a retreat order submission (by a long shot), I will annihilate the dislodged unit.

I am updating the map now. One more thing. If any of you guys need to take extended leaves, email me and I'll see if we can make something happen.

Woa woa woa, we've got some problems here.

If my Army in Serbia attacks Bulgaria (which it did), that means that while the Turkish Army currently in Bulgaria is allowed to move into Greece, but Turkey's army from Constantinople cannot move into Bulgaria, just as if a standoff were forced (which one was).

So Turkey's Army in Bulgaria must be moved back to Constantinople

"Units of equal strength trying to occupy the same province cause all of those units to remain in their original provinces. If two or more units are ordered into the same province, none of them can move"

And just to clarify, my Army in Serbia DID attack Turkey's army in Bulgaria. Why you have it writen down as a hold order is a complete mystery to me.

i have the same problem as jerkasaur... I moved my army from Prussia to Silensia at the same time Germany moved their army from Berlin to Silencia... the moves should cancel each other out and no army should be able to move. It worked with the fleet moving from Rumania to Sevastpol which canceled Ottomans move into Sevastpol and my move into sevastpol so why did the moves not cancel out for the two armies moving into Silencia?

Ein

Actually, you guys have different problems. Jerk, the problem with your move submission is you did NOT write down "A Serbia -> Bulgaria," you submitted "A Bulgaria -> Serbia." Since there was no army in Bulgaria, I just disregarded the order. I understand now what you meant to write down, but it's after the fact, so sorry. If you hadn't made that little mistake, then yes, the two Ottoman armies would not have moved.

Ein, this is a perfect example of the use of the support order. Germany believed you would try to move into Silensia, so he used his Munich army to support the Berlin army's move into Silensia. This works because, even though Munich is not adjacent to Berlin, it is adjacent to Silensia, which is the province under attack. So if you calculate the involved armies, Germany outnumbered your Prussia army 2 to 1, because he had 2 armies. So, if Germany had not been smart enough to support his attack, then it would have been a standoff, yes.

Hope that clears things up.

Thats really fucking lame, I wrote those orders when I got back to my house at 4 AM after traveling all day. Incredibly tired and jet lagged, it was quite obvious which move my armies wanted to make. Yes there was a typo involved, but that type of shit would never have happened in a real game.

I appologise for my misunderstanding, well played germany... But you willl still soon be mine... Mwahahaha.

Ein

Blog link spamming will not be tolorated. first and last warning

Nevah, Evah! You will never invade Germany. America, my big buddy, would help me, fo sho.

@Topic: As far as I can follow the rules we have to send our retreatment and rebuild orders today?

Just build moves. No one has any retreats

Would you people GET YOUR MOVES IN ON TIME? I have Austria, the Ottoman Empire, and my build orders. Italy is out of the game for the moment, and Germany has no new things, so Britain and Russia...

Our map sucks ass, maybe we should try one of these mapping softwares …

http://www.diplom.org/Online/mapsoftware.html

@Blade: As dark already mentioned in a previous post, we have to become more strict on submissions.

Once again I sent my build orders as soon as I got off work on the day they were due. Unfortunately that was at 10pm. I would have sent them on an earlier day but I was trying to meet up with other rulers to discuss strategy first.

Ein

I believe some bright spark did a clever mod of the google maps so that you could use that for playing this game - it would help if i could remember where i saw the info on it but it might be worth looking into! :)

I agree with you guys about the map and stuff. I'll do something about it as soon as I can.

Anyway, the map isn't technically updated, but I posted the winter 1901 moves on the site. So you guys should check those out. Spring 1902 moves are due tomorrow. For Britain, Dark told me to build an army in Holland, but there was already an army in Holland, so I just threw the army into his unoccupied capital. If anyone thinks this goes against the rules, tell me

:::grumble:::

I dont know.... He had 3 unoccupied capitals... how did you know which one to chose to put the army in? if it was only one unoccupied capital, I would understand, but 3? Its up to you guys and I dont think it will make a difference this early in the game but in the future, if you dont declare an unoccupied capital I think that no army should be built.

Ein

sorry guys, finals are here and im doing all I can.  Ive been up to my ears in papers and cant even put time in this correctly.  Hopefully things change soon.[/size]

Hey OBlade, i sent in my moves on monday because i couldnt get to school, just checking to see if you got them from me.

moves were due on monday anyways.... has he updated? was hoping to get my next moves in by tonight (ones due on wednesday) but it still hasnt updated from Winter

Ein

Yes, I'm sorry about that delay. Moves are final - Spring 1902 moves are posted. Thanks to my delay, Fall 1902 will be due Thursday, and plan on Winter 1902 moves as well as Fall retreat moves (if there are any) being due on Friday.

Italy has a retreat order to submit (Venice army), that I will need by tomorrow to post on the site. Russia pointed out a problem with the map - I should've colored in Prussia as a Russian province. I will fix this soon.

Again, sorry about being late. If there are any problems, tell me...

Now, a diplomatic announcement from France: There is now a state of open war with Germany.

I have a diplomatic announcement too, straight from the heart of the wild Jungle that is Turkey....... ::)
You know what i mean  ::lol::
Anyway, here it is:
                                     I AM A FREAKING IDIOT!! GAH ::wall::
okay, since i have done it already, i will share it with the world, i accidentally sent an email to russia that was supposed to go to austria about me *attacking* russia.....but since i did that and now it wont work, i decided to ya know, be nice to russia and all, for trying to work secretly against him with him...yeah...so i uh, just wanted to say i am getting off Rumania for the moment, and concentrating my forces elsewhere, hopefully with the help of Russia, although i totally wouldnt blame Ein for not helping me  ;)




PS-- (whispering) Hey Austria and Russia wink wink the one this is directed to knows who he is
XD

Turkey

lol.... damn spies intercepting messages. Theyre everywhere.

Ein

Proof of the Ottoman treachery -

"okay...here's how it is, you can be mean (Noo!) and go ahead and take Greece from me (Turkey), -OR- you can be nice (Yes!!) and attack Rumania with your Army in Serbia. If you do this and be nice, i will gladly move my army out of Greece free for your taking.  And of course, be nice to you and everything, ya know, concentrate on Russia an stuff."

The answer is no.

I can't update the map yet, 'cause several people haven't turned in moves

Please post when map is updated. I'm going out of town for a few days this weekend and early next week. I want to try to submit my build orders and maybe even my next moves before I leave. Also if you would continue to post when map is updated in the future, I would appreciate it greatly. It would save me a lot of time from reloading the maps webpage  if we would just be able to find out here once it has been updated (since I have this thread set to notify me by email when a new post is made)

Thanks
Ein

MAP IS UPDATED.

A few interesting things happened this turn that might deserve some commentary. Firstly, Germany is in a tight spot. Tin tried to order an attack on Demark using his Berlin army and support it with his Kiel fleet. This would've worked great, but Berlin is not adjacent to Denmark.

Then in Italy (this is sort of funny that no one caught it), the website said that Italy had two armies in Tuscany. Apparently he retreated his Venice army to Tuscany, and I didn't notice Tuscany was occupied, so I thought the order was legal. So I had to disband that illegally-retreated army.

Something cool happened in Norway too. It was a standoff between Britain and Russia, but an interesting one. Britain convoyed a fleet to Norway unsuccessfully, but, even though it was a convoy order, it prevented Russia's Barents Sea fleet from moving to Norway.

So, Germany has a retreat order due, his Munich army... actually I could probably just retreat it to the only open space, Silensia. Anyway, I updated the map itself this time too. I may have to upload it again 'cause there is no visible change... And one thing. As far as I know if you attack a province, say, with one army, and the province you attack is *defensively* supported more than your army is, you don't have to retreat, because you were never attacked. This is how I learned the rules, but if someone finds it is against the rules, let me know

And about reading the website. RED DOTS DO NOT REPRESENT THE PLACEMENT OF UNITS. They represent supply centers. So, only retreat order is Germany's Munich army. Austria needs to build one unit, France needs to build 3, England needs to build one, Germany needs to remove one. Russia didn't lose or gain anything. Neither did the OE. Italy has nothing to build.

If there are any questions, let me know.

Maybe I can get some clarification here on some of my moves into Greece, and find out exactly what happened?

My army in Albania supported my army in serbia to attack Greece.
The Ottoman army in Greece attacked Serbia w/ Bulgaria supporting

AKA a Standoff? Correct?

But wait, The Russian Army in Rumania attacked Bulgaria, forcing them cut support.

So why did my army from Serbia not make it into Greece, it was a 2v1 situation?

Some clarification would be really helpful here.

On top of this, the Ottoman Black Sea fleet attacked Rumania, forcing them to cease their attack on Bulgaria and respond to the attack from the sea.

What about the fleet in Sevastople supporting Rumania? Does this have any effect?

Don't worry, I'm not sore about any of these moves, I jsut want to make sure that I understand everything that's going on.

Umm Blade i didnt have an army in Tuscany so hmmm?

Yes, but Sevastopol's support was cut off by the Ottoman attack on Armenia. But that doesn't matter as much. Even though Sevastopol had more support.

Phara, I think on the first turn you moved your Rome army to Tuscany. It didn't go anywhere on the second turn because you didn't submit any moves, and on the third turn it didn't go anywhere either 'cause you had it moving to Venice, which Austria invaded.

Mmmh, Blade, you confused something, other wise i cannot explain this. My FLEET is in BERLIN and my ARMY is in in KIEL.  ???

That's impossible... the first thing you did was move your Kiel fleet to Berlin when you moved your Berlin army to Silensia. Then in Spring 1902 you sent it back to Kiel.

And people, I forgot to mention this, get your build moves in ASAP. Like, by today. Germany you also have a retreat move. But I'd like to get back on Monday Wednesday Friday for next week, so I need all build moves in this weekend (today if possible).

i know that i said i would get off of Rumania and everything, but i kinda had to in order to save my butt   ;)   

MAP IS UPDATED.

Tin didn't get any moves in so I just disbanded his dislodged army. So, Spring 1903 is due tomorrow, Fall is due Wednesday, and Winter is due Friday. This week, I wait for NO ONE. So get your moves in on time :)

Moves are final (check the updated site). The only moves I got were mine, the Ottoman Empire's, Britain's, and Russia's. So Germany, Italy, and Austria are all in civil disorder. I told you I wouldn't wait for anyone.

Fall 1903 moves are due Wednesday. Be sure to get THEM in. After that, Winter 1903 moves will be due THURSDAY NOT FRIDAY. I'm going out of town this weekend, and so just to plan in advance, Spring 1904 WILL be due next Monday. Anyways, guys, remember to submit your moves on time. I don't wait any more.

An announcement from France: War is now formalized not only with Germany, but also Austria and Italy. Thanks for not submitting any moves, made my attack easier...

My armies movement from warsaw to prussia seems to have been overlooked in the current standings of spring 1903. No one else moved there to block me.... Am I missing something?

Ein

Got a link for the map id like to see how the battles going :)

Here ya go bfg, and to sum up, 2 nations almost gone, italy and germany. Two strong alliances have seemed to emerge-france/britain from west and austria/russia from east.

http://www.geocities.com/ublade81/?20051?200513

Gl to all countries
Ein

Lovely cheers Ein... can't help but say though....


HAHA OH THE IRONY!! ;)

Damn sorry Ein. Fixed now.

Blade, didnt I move into the norwegian sea as well?

Yeah yeah fixed that too.

MAP IS UPDATED. Winter build moves (and 1 retreat, Austria's Tyrolia army) are due tomorrow (Thursday). Technically Germany has 2 retreat orders also, but he no longer has any supply centers. So RIP Germany - good game Tin. Austria and Italy are looking pretty bad too... with French troops in Vienna, and only 3 supply centers each. It looks like Russia and the Ottoman Empire may need to band together to survive the Franco-British alliance.

So, for build orders, France has 1 unit to build, Britain has 2, Russia has 1, the Ottoman empire has 1, Italy has 1, and Austria (on top of retreating that one in Tyrolia) needs to remove 2. After winter moves, Spring 1904 (years are going by pretty damn fast) will be due next Monday.

Sorry guys I've been really busy recently. I just havn't had time to do any of my moves or consult anyone, and I don't think I will any time in the near future. GG while it lasted. Good luck Russia and Britain.

hehehe, note the absence of Turkey and France    ::lol::

Otto Man

This game is hereby cancelled. I'm a terrible GM - several people (me) have been violating rules, move submission has been rather crappy, and in general, I don't like the result this game produced.

I will leave the site up until we organize a new game. I also say that we need a neutral game master - one who is not playing the game. Until we get that neutral guy (whose job will be to collect moves and update the map and finalize moves and etc.), I'll organize the next game. Re-sign up if you want to play again. In the meantime, start advertising. It's possible we could play a variant that involves more than 7 people. For instance, there is a 34 player FFA where everyone has 1 supply center.

But anyway, start signing up for the new game. Sorry about cancelling the last game, but I really was a terrible gamemaster. The game we played wasn't wholly legal.

I'm down to play again. Dark and ein especially, it would be really cool if you guys played this round. Let's shoot for 8 people in this match (7 nations and a GM).

I'm in again and im gonna try get more time into this.

Phara

Sorry to hear that...especially when I had you all right where I wanted you. I guess we'll just chalk it up as a win for Russia... Hehe

Gg
Ein

Ha, I think you mean France. I was going to get all of Italy and part of Austria, and fyi, I was about to betray Britain and take Holland/Kiel.

what happened to winning as a team.  Gosh people these days.  I dont know if I wanna play.  I need allies I can trust.  The game is frustrating anyway.  Maybe if we could just play during the day and have a one day game.  I dont think Im in it for the long haul anymore.  At least not as a player.

aww, and i just made an alliance with Russia, hehe

well, if you dont mind i would like to play again as well, but if we have too many people i will gladly step out

Otto Man

Dark, it is a lot to fit in a single day and as far as alliances you can trust and winning as a team... Alliances are made to be broken and to quote Highlander, "In the end, there can be only one."

I don't know about playing in the next game but I would be more than happy to GM it as long as it started after the holidays. I'm far too busy to commit to GMing until then . I believe I have a well enough understanding of the rules. I would just need access to blades web page to make changes to the map as the game went on or at least a picture of a blank map that I could make a page for so I wouldn't have to draw out the territories and what everyone starts with myself. Updating an already made map is lots easier than starting from scratch myself.

Ein

Thanks Ein. We will probably start after the holidays, 'cause it's just not possible to recruit enough people to play during the holidays. As for the one day thing... what we are playing is a form of postal diplomacy. It would be very boring to sit at a computer and play a board game like diplomacy. It goes a lot smoother in real life, and you have to deal with actual people in real life :) People that you have to keep a straight face to when you say you will help them out if they are attacked, etc...

I cant believe I just read this thread.   ::wall::

To those of you who wish to continue playing this game, try buying the board game, it's great for some evenings with mates. Warning though, do not play with people who are easilly angered and never ever play it with your girlfriend...NEVER!

Also, I'd like to suggest the rule that Junta has(optional rune). Repeat "it's only a game" 10 times before you play. Junta is also another hillarious game, with some more features than diplomacy, but 10 times the backstabbing(the whole idea is to ru(i)n a banana republic and get your hands on most the foreign aid dollars from america and stash it away into your swiss bank account).

If you don't feel like buying Diplomacy, but want to play by mail, theres dozens of sites where people need more to play with.

Just for some clarification, I wasn't cheating intentionally... I just messed up with some of the rules. that and if you didn't notice, dark and ein had to keep reminding me to move their pieces :\

It's about time for a new game. Ein, it would be great if you could be GM and play, but if you just want to do one of those, let me know. I will get you the site access info if you want to be GM.

Everyone else - it's time to start getting a new list of players! I'm ready for another game, and I think my friend Joey (Otto Man) would play too. Dark, I really hope you'll play again. A few notes about the game for everyone Don't assume the same of people this game just because what happened last game; e.g., just because someone attacked you or betrayed someone last game, doesn't mean they will do it this game. Try to think of players as nations and not people you know and trust...

And, if you guys want to, play the game a little more conservatively. It isn't necessary (though it can cause really cool things to happen) to blitzkrieg everyone at the beginning of the game. Especially if there are nonplayer countries you can expand into first.

Anyway, start looking for players. If you're interested in playing the new game, just sign up here. One more thing: No one will be the same country this game as they were last game.

i'm up for it, all the way rock on!  ::applause::

hehe, cant be the same country huh? Ottoman turks are dead, now its time for the Ottoman Russians, or Ottoman Italians....wow thats kinda weird

Otto Man

No replies? Does no one want to play another game, or has no one seen my recent post about a new game? come on, people, we need to get playing again.

sorry... have been out of it for the last week. Im interested in another game. I can play or be GM or both... really up to what is needed. So there is 3 players... any more?

Ein

Alright ein

This sounds oddly familiar to an idea that GPO had :P