Title: I'M AN NEW GHR GAMER IN NEED OF SOME COUNSEL Post by: Silos06 on December 13, 2005, 06:31:37 pm I DOWNLOADED GAMER RANGER TO FIND SOME GAMES ONLINE FOR GHR. THE ACTIVATION LINK THAT THEY SENT FAILS TO LOAD. DOES ANYONE KNOW A LINK. WHAT TO DO??????
Title: Re: I'M AN NEW GHR GAMER IN NEED OF SOME COUNSEL Post by: BFG on December 13, 2005, 09:05:41 pm Firstly, there is an amazing thing called the "CAPS LOCK" ... please for gods sake turn it off!
Secondly, you need to explain exactly what the problem is... and what activation link your referring to!! Thirdly since i can track both you and your IP id be very interested to know why you have posted as a new member as "Silos06" when you have already registered twice from your location both as =US= Punisher and Musk_Melon Much Appreciated BFG Title: Re: I'M AN NEW GHR GAMER IN NEED OF SOME COUNSEL Post by: DarK. on December 13, 2005, 09:40:24 pm hold on BFG same location as in Same i.p.? Like =US= PUNiSHER and GhRa>Musk Melon share the same ip? with this fellow?
Title: Re: I'M AN NEW GHR GAMER IN NEED OF SOME COUNSEL Post by: BTs_GhostSniper on December 13, 2005, 09:44:51 pm hold on BFG same location as in Same i.p.? Like =US= PUNiSHER and GhRa>Musk Melon share the same ip? with this fellow? Very interesting. Since Dark seconded that, I'd like to make it unanimous and find out the truth behind this. Title: Re: I'M AN NEW GHR GAMER IN NEED OF SOME COUNSEL Post by: Po~ReverendMoss on December 13, 2005, 10:12:42 pm LMFAO~ that's just too damn sweet :)
They always forget that admin's get the IP just under their names Title: Re: I'M AN NEW GHR GAMER IN NEED OF SOME COUNSEL Post by: BFG on December 13, 2005, 10:32:21 pm I don't want to say anything other than Yes both of the following accounts are tracked from the same IP that Silos06 has just posted from:
• =US= Punisher • GhRa>Musk Melon As an Admin i can't help but keep an eye on 'guest' posters and 'unusual' posts... its interesting which names sometimes pop up! If you would like to explain to me the reason for this occurrence I'm perfectly happy for it to be done by PM on this forum or at my usual bfg@damnr6.com email address. However considering the implications regarding the *DBL and the respective clans involved regarding the two accounts above i suggest you provide me with an explanation, and fast. Many Thanks BFG Title: Re: I'M AN NEW GHR GAMER IN NEED OF SOME COUNSEL Post by: DarK. on December 14, 2005, 06:19:29 am Another thing we could check was if they ever CB'd Against each other...
Actually I just spent time checking, Musk Melon seems to have never cb'd for GhRa, and if he has, it has not been against =US=[/size] Title: Re: I'M AN NEW GHR GAMER IN NEED OF SOME COUNSEL Post by: <82ndAB>Tigah on December 14, 2005, 06:52:31 am Interesting.......the plot thickens :o
Title: Re: I'M AN NEW GHR GAMER IN NEED OF SOME COUNSEL Post by: DarK. on December 14, 2005, 08:29:54 am Ok, so I look on GR, Im not sure what musk's acount number is although I think it is this (192464) The location is a good 300 miles away from where =US= PUNiSHER's location is.
Although as tigah says below me, you can change your location in GR.[/size] Title: Re: I'M AN NEW GHR GAMER IN NEED OF SOME COUNSEL Post by: <82ndAB>Tigah on December 14, 2005, 08:32:56 am you can change your location...
Title: Re: I'M AN NEW GHR GAMER IN NEED OF SOME COUNSEL Post by: th.Sentinel on December 14, 2005, 09:54:32 am How about dynamic IP's, if they are both using the same ISP.
It can all just be a coincidence... PARANOIA ::hmm: Title: Re: I'M AN NEW GHR GAMER IN NEED OF SOME COUNSEL Post by: spike on December 14, 2005, 04:49:34 pm Or there are just three idiot brothers living in one house maybe?
Title: Re: I'M AN NEW GHR GAMER IN NEED OF SOME COUNSEL Post by: Civrock on December 14, 2005, 05:34:00 pm Or there are just three idiot brothers living in one house maybe? ...or they are one and the same person. ::) There are no such coincidences with ISPs, security reasons. Title: Re: I'M AN NEW GHR GAMER IN NEED OF SOME COUNSEL Post by: Brutha on December 14, 2005, 07:46:46 pm But they could still be three brothers...of course, I'm not sure why the last one had to download GR if both the other brothers had it in the first place.
Title: Re: I'M AN NEW GHR GAMER IN NEED OF SOME COUNSEL Post by: -ViP-PUNiSHER on December 14, 2005, 09:34:42 pm I am sick of the bullshit that goes around on these forums. You people always jump to conclusions without gathering your information first.
I'm on a 56k modem with AOL service and I believe Musk Melon is also on 56k modem, our IP address changes everytime we sign on so its possible to get the same IP address at times. And I have no idea why the Silo guy would have the same IP because I was playing in the same room as that guy last night unless he is also on 56k. I'm switching over to 6MB Comcast Cable on Christmas, so I only have to put up with 56k for 11 more days. I'm pleased to announce this will be my last season playing for this DBL league so I don't have to deal with the daily bullshit that you people live off of. Title: Re: I'M AN NEW GHR GAMER IN NEED OF SOME COUNSEL Post by: BTs_GhostSniper on December 14, 2005, 09:48:54 pm I'm on a 56k modem with AOL service and I believe Musk Melon is also on 56k modem, our IP address changes everytime we sign on so its possible to get the same IP address at times. And I have no idea why the Silo guy would have the same IP because I was playing in the same room as that guy last night unless he is also on 56k. Wow, that's some coincidence. I'm pleased to announce this will be my last season playing for this DBL league so I don't have to deal with the daily bullshit that you people live off of. Don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out. ;) Title: Re: I'M AN NEW GHR GAMER IN NEED OF SOME COUNSEL Post by: Po~ReverendMoss on December 14, 2005, 11:34:19 pm Ha!
::applause:: Best Thread Evar ReverendMoss does not live off of daily bullshit... that's just a coincidence. Title: Re: I'M AN NEW GHR GAMER IN NEED OF SOME COUNSEL Post by: RoeM on December 15, 2005, 02:59:28 am OMG! YOu guys get bored and need some witch hunts to keep u busy from time to time? No wonder this league is shrinking in activity. I have known and played with punisher for a long time now and this stuff and the conclusions jumped to is just beyond rediculous and probably not worth responding if it wasnt for all my 'buddies' jumping on the bandwagon to twist those knives stuck in Puns back just a bit. Punisher is not Musk melon. That guy used to play on my server alot, even during the time that Punisher was allready using Hook's deserted/donated premium account. LOL I truly doubt you guys would make very good detectives in the real world as you would get suid for libel or slander quite often probably.
Cummon guys lighten up, Musk Melon was a much better player! ;) Anyway, believe what you want, I have no reason to believe he is Musk. WHATEVER! Title: Re: I'M AN NEW GHR GAMER IN NEED OF SOME COUNSEL Post by: WeedWacker on December 15, 2005, 04:10:20 am I think people know Punisher and I are not on good terms, but to accuse him of this based on IP addresses, which are normally dynamic, is BS. I know my IP changes everytime I reboot...how can tracking IPs be a valid way to "track people" Clueso? Get a life...it's people like you that make Clans and DamnR6 unfun.
Title: Re: I'M AN NEW GHR GAMER IN NEED OF SOME COUNSEL Post by: Civrock on December 15, 2005, 04:51:00 am IPs ARE what identify people online, dynamic or not. Two people, even if it's the same ISP respectively especially if it's the same ISP, can't have the same IP for quite a long amount of time. They're connected to a so-called hostname which always stays the same for a household, even if the IP changes. Also, dynamic IPs are assigned with certain ranges for certain areas, and the distance of how far Punisher and Musk_Melon live away from each other according to their GR profiles... is nonsense. As posted before, security reasons. There is NO doubt whatsoever that these three accounts have posted from the same internet connection. It's more likely that a pig comes flying through your window than three (or even two) different people on the same forum have the same IP but don't use the same connection.
Waaah, waaah, waaah... witchhunt! ::lol:: Title: Re: I'M AN NEW GHR GAMER IN NEED OF SOME COUNSEL Post by: -ViP-PUNiSHER on December 15, 2005, 07:22:53 am Actually No
AOL uses a proxy server that makes it appear as if all users are coming from a single IP address. AOL's proxy servers are located in Reston, Virginia which means your tracing an IP address to that location. Maybe you should go here and read about people who have had the same issue tracking the same IP address for different users. http://www.theadminzone.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-5062-same-ip-addresses---p-1.html http://www.computing.net/webdevel/wwwboard/forum/1174.html http://webmaster.info.aol.com/proxyinfo.html Title: Re: I'M AN NEW GHR GAMER IN NEED OF SOME COUNSEL Post by: cO.libre on December 15, 2005, 07:29:25 am pwnt.
Title: Re: I'M AN NEW GHR GAMER IN NEED OF SOME COUNSEL Post by: DarK. on December 15, 2005, 08:15:17 am Well, that seems to settle things, sorry that I doubted you PUN[/size]
Title: Re: I'M AN NEW GHR GAMER IN NEED OF SOME COUNSEL Post by: :MoD:Shade on December 15, 2005, 07:51:59 pm She's a witch!
---How do you know she is a witch? She turned me into a newt! Title: Re: I'M AN NEW GHR GAMER IN NEED OF SOME COUNSEL Post by: *DAMN Mauti on December 15, 2005, 08:29:14 pm Well I didn't notice this thread earlier, but technically wise Pun is completely right!
If you or your ISP uses a Proxy everyone of us could use the same IP address by using the same Proxy: you send a http request to the proxy server - the proxy server then asks with his IP for the http request and fetches it and then sends it back to the requester. There are a lot of free Proxy servers and it seems AOL also uses an proxy server for its own network. Proxy servers are usually used to hide your identity or to circumvent IP bans on forums ;-) Punisher don't take such accusations too serious especially if you know it can only be a mistake. For all others you can find more information here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proxy_server Title: Re: I'M AN NEW GHR GAMER IN NEED OF SOME COUNSEL Post by: BFG on December 15, 2005, 09:06:51 pm All i asked was a simple question which just needed a simple reply. I keep an eye on IPs etc becasue we do get people posting as 'guests' and we have in the past had problems with multiple accounts etc from the same house in different clans etc.
Folk don't need to grab the pitchforks and torches, sorry i wasn't about before to clarify but i was away on work!! Thanks for the clarification Punisher, much appreciated and apologies if i was a bit hot of the blocks, after the last lot of hassle we had i probably jumped the gun a bit!! ;) Title: Re: I'M AN NEW GHR GAMER IN NEED OF SOME COUNSEL Post by: *DAMN Mauti on December 15, 2005, 09:27:54 pm @ BFG: and it's a good thing that you do such things, because yes especially Rapid made us laugh often about his "guest" postings ;-), but well we didn't need an IP therefor to be honest.
So Pun everything is alright, just stay calm, we are just doing our jobs. So maybe we could go back and answer Silos06 question. Bye, Mauti Title: Re: I'M AN NEW GHR GAMER IN NEED OF SOME COUNSEL Post by: BFG on December 15, 2005, 09:34:26 pm Rgr that Mauti just doin me jobb ;) Hehe funny Rapid, and not the only one either, for instance i've found another certain individual on here after being banned, not to mention that incident we had before with a group of brothers ;)
Yeeeap, so like i said before though, Silos can you please clarify the problem your having so we can try and assist? Title: Re: I'M AN NEW GHR GAMER IN NEED OF SOME COUNSEL Post by: RoeM on December 16, 2005, 02:47:49 am You guys are going to give me a heart attack one of these days! I'm fragile
Title: Re: I'M AN NEW GHR GAMER IN NEED OF SOME COUNSEL Post by: WeedWacker on December 16, 2005, 02:54:23 am IPs ARE what identify people online, dynamic or not. Two people, even if it's the same ISP respectively especially if it's the same ISP, can't have the same IP for quite a long amount of time. They're connected to a so-called hostname which always stays the same for a household, even if the IP changes. Also, dynamic IPs are assigned with certain ranges for certain areas, and the distance of how far Punisher and Musk_Melon live away from each other according to their GR profiles... is nonsense. Can you cite a reference that backs up what you are saying as it seems incorrect. Title: Re: I'M AN NEW GHR GAMER IN NEED OF SOME COUNSEL Post by: Civrock on December 16, 2005, 05:09:26 am It's not incorrect, it's common technology of ALL broadband ISPs, and most dial-up providers. I didn't know that AOL does such bullshit with their customers and routes them via same connections and proxies, no wonder they're not reliable and have bad performance. There are several security aspects that disallow such "services", i.e. to prevent occurrences as in this case, but apparently AOL has an exception. Funny how they always advertise with it... security, yadda yadda yadda. So anyway, technically, what I said is correct. It's the same connection, but not household.
Title: Re: I'M AN NEW GHR GAMER IN NEED OF SOME COUNSEL Post by: Civrock on December 16, 2005, 05:22:40 pm I DOWNLOADED GAMER RANGER TO FIND SOME GAMES ONLINE FOR GHR. THE ACTIVATION LINK THAT THEY SENT FAILS TO LOAD. DOES ANYONE KNOW A LINK. WHAT TO DO?????? I guess this is a typical AOL problem (since we found out that you're most probably an AOL user), that's why many websites which send activation links additionally add special ones for AOL users. Try to copy the link (select it and press Apple+C) and paste it into the URL field of your browser (press Apple+V for that). That should work. It might be that the activation link expired by now, not sure... but if that's the case, just re-register via the GameRanger application, activate your account, log in and have fun. Title: Re: I'M AN NEW GHR GAMER IN NEED OF SOME COUNSEL Post by: RoeM on December 17, 2005, 02:37:55 am What a great thread for a newbie gamer to get a taste of what its like to play in this league nowadays
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