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Title: Season X: when shall we start?
Post by: *DAMN Mauti on January 15, 2005, 04:35:46 pm
Hellow fellow citizens, fellow opponents  ;)

I would like to know how cb hungry you are? Would you prefer that we start season X very soon, like starting registration already by the end of the next week and get season X started, or would you like to wait and get some complete new, not yet announced additions in return? The problem is that I as well as Elandrion have finals at university and it's very difficult to get some big changes done.

For Season X if we start asap:

we would add the rule changes we discussed here, make an additional rule book for starters, revisit the FFA scoring, add an AS Capture the Enemy RvS fun ladder, and some other minor things, like warning points updates.

Additional for Season X if we wait or otherwise season XI:

*DBL map pack merger + some updates, and a surprise :-X.

I would like to start sooner than later, because we all want to cb, season 9 was more or less flawless beside 1 - 2clans that caused a fuss.

However, we the *DBL admin team, would like to hear your wishes concerning the starting date season X!

Bye,

Mauti
(This poll will expire in 3 days, and you can also change your vote during this time)


Title: Re: Season X: when shall we start?
Post by: BTs_GhostSniper on January 15, 2005, 07:08:58 pm
Start as soon as possible.  The major changes can wait for later.  As for now, I'm hungry for some FFA Action!  w00t![/size]


Title: Re: Season X: when shall we start?
Post by: cO.Kuza on January 15, 2005, 07:54:54 pm
asap


Title: Re: Season X: when shall we start?
Post by: BTs_Mysterio on January 15, 2005, 11:12:07 pm
Great to know that there are changes the admins would like to make before this season starts but won't be able to because of the "American way" pressure of so many.


Title: Re: Season X: when shall we start?
Post by: BTs_GhostSniper on January 16, 2005, 12:08:31 am
Great to know that there are changes the admins would like to make before this season starts but won't be able to because of the "American way" pressure of so many.

Even Mauti said he wants to start sooner rather then later.[/size]


Title: Re: Season X: when shall we start?
Post by: BTs_Mysterio on January 16, 2005, 12:19:41 am
Do I often come off as a supporter of mauti's opinions?


Title: Re: Season X: when shall we start?
Post by: spike on January 16, 2005, 05:37:16 am
Chill out myst. We're doing all that we can to perpare for the season and to make it fun.


Title: Re: Season X: when shall we start?
Post by: BTs_Mysterio on January 16, 2005, 05:52:27 am
It just seems like cause for concern when the BL is asking us if they should start at less than 100%.


Title: Re: Season X: when shall we start?
Post by: spike on January 16, 2005, 05:02:23 pm
Well hey, most everyone who replied to this thread seems to want it to start soon.


Title: Re: Season X: when shall we start?
Post by: Stripes on January 16, 2005, 05:12:42 pm
start it asap, we need the cb's going on soon!




Title: Re: Season X: when shall we start?
Post by: BTs_Mysterio on January 16, 2005, 06:05:51 pm
Well hey, most everyone who replied to this thread seems to want it to start soon.

That's not a real answer to the fact you guys are considering starting at under optimal readiness.


Title: Re: Season X: when shall we start?
Post by: BFG on January 16, 2005, 06:19:38 pm
Myst there will never be an "Optimal readiness" ... as long as we ask for feedback there are going to be suggestions of possible and debatlable changes to inprove the system we have.

As it stands there are several ideas etc that we are discussing introducing to see how they run. The inportant issues that people have brought up and are being discussed will of couse be doe before we start - becase they are issues brought up from last season and have been shown to casue problems. However in the long term we don't want to hold people back if all they want to do is have these changes and then get suck into shooting the shit out of each other playing some jolly good old Clan Battles against each other :)


Title: Re: Season X: when shall we start?
Post by: BTs_Mysterio on January 16, 2005, 06:35:07 pm
Just to clearify that post, are you saying YOU STILL HAVENT FIXED LAST SEASONS MAJOR ISSUES you are still working on fixing issues from season 9?  ::stupid::


Title: Re: Season X: when shall we start?
Post by: DarK. on January 16, 2005, 07:21:56 pm
Mauti Id love to see it start as soon as possible, btw what are the changes, is the 20-50-20 thing in effect, where can I find this info?


Title: Re: Season X: when shall we start?
Post by: BTs_Mysterio on January 16, 2005, 08:01:29 pm
Hopefully we'll get a Season X post within the month. State of the BL!


Title: Re: Season X: when shall we start?
Post by: Ein on January 17, 2005, 03:17:03 am
Im for the season starting as soon as possible (possibly cause I've been jonzing to cb) but when are we gonna open up registration? Can we do that now while were waiting for the season to start?

Ein


Title: Re: Season X: when shall we start?
Post by: *DAMN Elandrion on January 17, 2005, 03:49:19 am
the question here is: do you want 100% a soon as possible, or 150% a few weeks later?

Elan


Title: Re: Season X: when shall we start?
Post by: BTs_Mysterio on January 17, 2005, 03:58:05 am
I would prefer the most complete version... and judging by what I hear that won't be the 100% despite it's name.


Title: Re: Season X: when shall we start?
Post by: BTs_GhostSniper on January 17, 2005, 04:54:34 am
I would prefer the most complete version... and judging by what I hear that won't be the 100% despite it's name.

You will NEVER have a "complete" version.  The *DBL is an ever-changing thing.  They will make the changes when they make them.  So why stop CB'ing until a particular feature is finished?  Makes no sense.  Those features that they are talking about will be in the following season if they don't get them out before this season.  Why hold everything up for that?  Get as much in now and let's get this thing started.  Then when Season XI starts there will be new things....and in Season XII I'm sure there will be even newer things....and so on and so on and so on...[/size]


Title: Re: Season X: when shall we start?
Post by: BTs_Mysterio on January 17, 2005, 04:55:39 am
Why not allow improvements during the season again?


Title: Re: Season X: when shall we start?
Post by: BTs_GhostSniper on January 17, 2005, 05:01:26 am
Why not allow improvements during the season again?

Cause that just screws everybody up.  They decided a season or two ago not to make changes in the middle of the season because it always pissed everybody off.

P.S.  I have retired from Team Gaming for the time being, so these things really don't bother me, and I'm not trying to change things to suite my preferences....I simply wanted to help.  I will remain in the BattleTek Squad with a .ret tag on the end of my name, but I will probably remain active in the GhR FFA Ladder.[/size]


Title: Re: Season X: when shall we start?
Post by: BTs_Mysterio on January 17, 2005, 05:04:21 am
Back in old days we liked updates.

P.S. You got a PC?


Title: Re: Season X: when shall we start?
Post by: BFG on January 17, 2005, 10:06:49 am
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Why not allow improvements during the season again?

Back in the old days People wore loin cloths and battered animals for breakfast. your point being?

People like updates, they don't like them coming mid season however when they are trying to concentrate on whooping their oppolents. Changes mid season became extreamly unpopular so we promised we woud refrain from making them mid season - hence why we have this periiod between changes for feedback and to make changes.


Title: Re: Season X: when shall we start?
Post by: Brutha on January 17, 2005, 10:36:10 am
Back in old days we liked updates.


You sound so old that it might be time to retire and let us "young folks" take care of things. The old days are over myst, replaced by the "new". Changes mid season screw thing. You want to know why? Last time we saw the introduccion of a map pack, some clans had played them before they got entered. Not good. The season after, nearing the end of the season :MoD: was leading the ladder and suddenly the season got longer...we werent too happy about that. Had that happened with MP5 on top I bet I would see Typhy make "Damn admins" threads again. Hang on...I did that back then ;)


Title: Re: Season X: when shall we start?
Post by: Ein on January 17, 2005, 05:39:54 pm
Back in old days we liked updates.


No one is saying that we dont like updates. New rules are always good as well as new maps, however if you start a season with one sety of rules and/or maps, it simnply is not fair for all concerned to finish the season with a different set of rules/maps. For instance, say it was basketball, or better yet for euros, football(soccer). Its half way through the game and one team has a large lead. The rules change and goals are worth 2 points now and instead of playing on grass, the ground is switched to cement or astroturf. Now is that fair?

depends which team your on right?

Maybe that wasnt the best example to get my point across but still, it just messes things up to add updates mid season

Ein


Title: Re: Season X: when shall we start?
Post by: :MoD:Shade on January 17, 2005, 08:19:59 pm
On the day before voting closes I say that we wait because I think we could get some more improvements in the league as in a new mappack possibly with large maps and not small CQB maps like there has been in the other *DMP's.


Title: Re: Season X: when shall we start?
Post by: BTs_Mysterio on January 17, 2005, 09:13:00 pm
We should have democracy in the DBL. Of course right now "elected officials" doesn't line up with DAMN MS style of product release.



Title: Re: Season X: when shall we start?
Post by: DarK. on January 18, 2005, 05:08:00 am
On the day before voting closes I say that we wait because I think we could get some more improvements in the league as in a new mappack possibly with large maps and not small CQB maps like there has been in the other *DMP's.

Downtown is cqb because it is streets, shade is talking about more open maps like red square and tank


Title: Re: Season X: when shall we start?
Post by: spike on January 18, 2005, 07:47:22 pm
We should have democracy in the DBL. Of course right now "elected officials" doesn't line up with DAMN MS style of product release.

Myst, please do not delete my posts. I will remind you again that if you have a problem, make a thread about it. Otherwise, please stay on topic.


Title: Re: Season X: when shall we start?
Post by: BTs_Mysterio on January 18, 2005, 09:44:46 pm
Spike, please do not edit my posts when what you have to say is more useful in another reply. I made topics on this many times in the past and DAMN every time simply says no with no real reasons, I don't suppose there was any reason you decided to pick me after all those other threads which just became one, with everyone going off topic, but sure.

BTW, the vote looks pretty even recently.


Title: Re: Season X: when shall we start?
Post by: spike on January 18, 2005, 09:52:14 pm
I picked you because I didn't like the persistently negative tone towards *DAMN that has pervaded many of your posts, not only in this thread, but in others. Also, you were going off topic.


Title: Re: Season X: when shall we start?
Post by: BTs_Mysterio on January 18, 2005, 09:55:52 pm
Read the admin BS hand book or something? There's nothing negative about wanting the season to be fully complete with all planned changes. Or supporting the sheep system. Hell, there's not a damn thing negative about wanting the people to be able to vote for their admins. Change isn't negative, change is inevitable.


Title: Re: Season X: when shall we start?
Post by: BFG on January 18, 2005, 09:58:21 pm
Mystero your posts will be edited as are all posts i they go off topic like you did on this kind of thread - they are edited to keep posts down to stop the threads from being distracted from the topic. You post was edited by a Mod for a reason and should not be deleted simply because you do not like having your posts moderated.

In future please post your complaints, criticisms and questions about the status of *DAMN and democracy  here (http://www.damnr6.com/yabbse/index.php?board=10.0)

This thread and the other concurrent threads regarding the coming season are here to give people the opportunity to have their voices heard and have important discussions about these issues, they are not here for you to post your complaints about how damn and the Admins operate.

Anything else off topic in this thread will be removed.


Title: Re: Season X: when shall we start?
Post by: BTs_Mysterio on January 18, 2005, 10:05:59 pm
I would like to request this poll be re-opened. There was obviously still many voters voting, and regardless of the outcome they should get their chance too.


Title: Re: Season X: when shall we start?
Post by: *DAMN Mauti on January 18, 2005, 10:21:08 pm
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I would prefer the most complete version... and judging by what I hear that won't be the 100% despite it's name

The poll was opened only for 3 days because we also need time to adapt to the outcome of the poll and base our shedule on it.

However about your worries - the season will be complete and all necessary changes will be implemented, only some bonus additions won't make it into season X, but will be added in season XI. To sum up all flaws  and problems we experienced in the last seasons should be fixed. Some surprises and the map pack merger won't make it into it.

Tomorrow I gonna start the next row of season X topics. Just had a few tests already this week so I wasn't much online.

Bye

Mauti