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I recently joined the Paul Revere Society, which was created by Michael Savage.  I was so impressed with the mission statement that I donated $1,000 to the organization.  You can join too, just go to www.michaelsavage.com.  Here is their mission statement:[/size]

The Paul Revere Society

Borders * Language * Culture

The Paul Revere Society brings together Americans who actively seek to take back our borders, our language, and our traditional culture from the liberal left corroding our great nation.?

We as Americans inherited a country built on a lust for liberty and compassionate conservative values.? At the Paul Revere Society, we understand that our freedom is not only our right, but also our responsibility.? We refuse to sit back and watch liberalism trump ethics and morality through blatant ignorance and judicial arrogance.? We will not let the earth around us quake as the Founding Fathers roll over in their graves every time the left attacks our schools, our faith, our national security, and, most importantly, our families.

The liberal left is ashamed of our past, uncertain of our future, and lacks respect for the principles of personal responsibility.? The America WE belong to cherishes our nation's rich history and is confident in our potential.? We share a love for the values that still resonate throughout the United States: free market capitalism, religious faith, individual liberty, and the idea that all are created equal and endowed by our Creator. ?

We believe in the Sovereignty of our Nation; that English is the national "glue" that holds us together, and that the Bible, the U.S. Constitution, the Bill of Rights and what they stand for are our common cultural heritage.?

The Paul Revere Society fosters a unique opportunity for Americans to assert the values inherent in these pillars of freedom.? Through grassroots organization and active chapters nationwide, we will be successful in bucking back liberalism by protecting our borders, language and culture.? Liberty is infectious, it is our job to spread it and defend it.[/size]

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P.S.  "w00t" was added by GhostSniper and is not an official trademark of the Paul Revere Society.[/size]

Wow, you do know Paul Revere was born in Massachusetts, don't you?

PS: The Klan is recruiting as well, their mission statement is similar.

Hey dummy....where the fuck do you think George W. Bush was born???[/size]

Do you also donate to the Nazi party?

What the hell is the Naxi party???[/size]

Hey dummy...President Bush was born on July 6, 1946, in New Haven, Connecticut.

My point being that he was born up in New England in the same screwed-up liberal area as Kerry....not in Texas as is widely believed.[/size]

Yes, I was aware of that, he also purchased his ranch in Crawford a few months before taking office. I brought up  Massachusetts, because it's the liberal threshold of hell, according to the GOP.

Nah, everyone knows that EUROPE is the liberal threshold of hell.[/size]  ;)

I still can't believe that money went to that guy. Hell I could make up some BS site like that. Oh well.

Just an attempt to keep this from getting ugly, lets keep this one above the belt guys.

<lame attempt at humor>Im tempted to censor both of you for the use of the term: "Dummy".  I think the Dumm People for Equal Rights would find it offensive.</lame attempt at humor>

*Dings the bell* Let the fight continue!

Crypt, he is the most popular non-party Talk Radio personality in the United States.  He is a conservative, but he is an independent, not a Republican.  Also, the guy has a Ph.D. from the University of California at Berkeley in Epidemiology and Nutrition Science.  He says things a lot of people want to hear....anything but BS.

P.S.  He is also the person that, in 1994, came up with the term "Compassionate Conservative."[/size]

Um... gee... thanks.

SNiPE   <?Local Forum "Connecticutian"



P.S. I'm actually heading to New Haven tomorrow morning.

He is also a nutter.

I mean, he is for individual liberty, but somehow I'm guessing not gay rights.

He is for the Bill of Rights, but somehow I'm guessing not the right to burn the flag.

He probably doesn't care about freedom of religion enough to oppose having "under God" in the pledge.

At least the Libertarian party is consistent, these non-party "libertarian" Republicans are hypocrites. I have heard Savages radio show and it usually is the same sort of utter nonsense that Rush Limbaugh spouts. These people think they represent the founding fathers? That is just absurd. The founding fathers were the ultimate liberals for their time.

I was wondering when the day would come that burning the flag would be mentioned on this forum.  Just for everyone's information here.....

You burn the American Flag anywhere near me (such as within quick driving distance of me if I see you doing it on TV), and you will get to find out first hand how well I was trained in the U.S. Army Rangers.  No joke...I take that shit serious.

Sure, you may have the "legal" right to do it...but I will flex my "illegal" right to fuck you up.

Peace.

-GhostSniper Out.[/size]

WAIT WAIT WAIT,


wtf, does berkeley know a conservative graduated from it's ranks.  They will be pissed off when they learn about this.  This is truly insane, next thing I know, pennies are dollars and shit smells like roses....

brb, lemme check my shorts....

Yeah, I found quite a bit of humor in that too.[/size]

So basically what you are saying is that you are morally depraved and have no regard for the sacrifices that have been made to defend our liberties. It is those liberties, not the flag, that is more important to our nation.

For the record, I wouldn't burn a flag, I think it is a poor means of expression and anyone who does burn the flag probably won't and shouldn't be taken seriously. However, I do think it is a means of expression and thus shouldn't be taken away.

GS, you REALLY need to calm down. This level of hostility and hatred that you keep pent up in you, ready to explode at the slightest provocation is not a positive attribute. If you were to hurt/kill someone over burning the flag, you WOULD be the greater evildoer. You talk about your faith, doesn't your faith say something about Thou shall not kill...and turning the other cheek?

Finally, I just feel I should ask. Do you hate me GS? Would I be in danger if I was in the same room as you because of what I say? Does my use of freedom of speech upset you? I want to reassure you, I do not hate you. I pity you because I do not think having your level of animosity for many things as you've voiced here would be healthy or make for a happy life...even with the bundles of money you are making now thanks to Bush.

Michael Savage sounds like a wrestler name.. . is this the case?

*** Burns an American Flag COUGH COUGH I mean... CD.

heh sorry

Today is the worst day in history. I'm doing nothing right today everyone is yelling at me i'm just so pissed off i think i could kill myself

Whoa...
"Spread liberty by getting those stupid liberals to shut the fuck up and quit bothering us with their BS."
A bit contradictory, don't you think, GS. But hey, you never seemed very bothered by contradiction.
Also, the values of people who lived over 300 years ago (no matter how vitrtous they were) seems problematic. If that's what being a conservative means, then why don't you become an ultraconservative and endorse values like "death by stoning" and the like.....

Okay, I vote we kill Abe.....by stoning him to death.

Now are you happy?  ;)

You are so crazy. :-)

Oh, Now I am going to have to drive all the way down to Missisippi just to punch you in the face at your car dealership.

It sounds like Micheal Savage is just describing the difference between urbanites and non-urbanites. This is a dillema that has existed throughout the world and history. Nothing new here.

Everyone does not have christian values here, one needs to get over that fact. Non-christians have existed in the United States and they always will exist in the United States. Religious tolerance is vital to the unification of this mixed up country.


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Democrats beleive in the free market, they do beleive it should not be totally unrestricted. They also beleive in a free market. GS beleive me when I say this, these democrats are nowhere near to the Communists of the old Soviet Union. They also beleive in individual liberty. Thats kind of why they are seen as eroding our "values." They have a do as you wish mentality when it comes to your lifestyle. Faith is something some liberals have. It might not be the faith you talk about. It might not be christian, but they have faith. You know there are conservative atheists as well. Dont get me wrong, I am liberal and I hate atheists, most pessimistic people you can imagine.

True, english is the national glue and that is something that is eroding. However, that is as much fault to the Republicans as it is the Democrats. Making all the illegal imigrants leagal? Thats just asanine. As for the US Constitution, both sides see what they want to see. It angers me that the left wants to dismember the Second Amendment, it also angers me that many conservatives want to make the United States into this Christian utopia.


 Again, liberalism is not opening up our borders, it is a bi-partisan effort to fuck up the country. Whose language and culture are you protecting? Last I checked, liberals celebrate the Fourth of July and Thanksgiving. They might not all celebrate christmas, but not all conservatives do either. The US has changed since colonial times. We have had Italians come, Russians come, Chinese, etc since the Bill of Rights was made. We cannot "revert" back to the old times of New England puritanicalism. They will never come back again. It is about as asinine as hoping for the reformation of the Soviet Union in my country. Its in the past, leave it there.

Bah I was just making a joke. I didn't think you would take it farther than that post.

The post was mostly in response to the Paul Revere mission statement.

As for the flag, burn it if you want, I am gonna laugh when GS rips you two new assholes.

The problem I see with the Second Amendment is that it isn't clear, and is a contradiction in application.

If it is an individual right to bear arms, rather than discussing militia, I think there is a good argument in saying the government cannot tell us what arms we need. The local libertarian newspaper (it is the major paper for my city) used this argument against the assault rifle ban. But using this same standard, it is unconstitutional to prevent US citizens from owning nuclear weapons and other WMD. To me this thought is just madness. But I do not think you can make a constitutional distinction of "arms" between rifles and handguns and WMD. I think a constitutional amendment is needed to clarify the second amendment since it is one of the least clear Amendments.

On the other side, certain restrictions like waiting period, no gun-show loophole, gun registration, safety requirements, etc. do not violate the second amendment. They do not limit rights to own guns, they just put certain limits on how one goes about getting it.

This is similar to if the Supreme Court said door to door solicitation was not protected under freedom of speech because it violates the right to privacy of the individual being solicited (unfortunately the Supreme Court has held up the solicitors rights in that instance, though seemingly not for telemarketers...but that specific point hasn't been addressed yet so it is hard to say what would be the ruling.)

Oh, I completley agree with background checks and three day waiting periods. If you are not mentally fit to own a fire arm, you shouldnt own one. However, for the rest of us who wont go on killing sprees, firearms should be allowed.

Now this is going to be way(http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/offtopic.gif)

Have fun sitting in jail GS, over the burning of a flag because I don't doubt that you would know when to stop.  You would then be arrested and put in jail for a few months...great role model.

lol....who said I would get caught?  Hell, Hydrochloric acid does wonders when a corpse is immersed for a few hours.  Hard to convict someone of a crime if you can't produce a body.  ;)

You are the fucking creepiest person on this board.

Thank you.  ;D

Ghostsniper,

You just said you would commit 1st degree murder over the burning of a flag..ur insane.  Plus it would be very costly for a large amount of HCl, not to mention the guilty conscience you would have for the rest of your life, have fun in hell.

 I dont believe he said he would kill..but he probably would punch you out, and quite frankly, I cant blame him. I wouldnt, but GS and I are different.  And, he has strong feelings for his country, which I can respect. We all respond to insults dont we...thats what flagburning is...an insult.

     The map is not the terrain. The photo is not the person. The flag is not the country.

Brutha,

He said that HCl does wonders to a corpse when it is emersed for a long time, implying that he killed someone, and doesnt want to get caught, and therefore wants the body to decompose so there is no evidence of a body.  That is murder, and loth is completly right on this one.

Well Lothario, you are quite right. A map is not the terrain, but still is a symbol for the terrain. A photo is not a person, but a symbol of that person. A flag, loth, is not the country but is a symbol. And incase you havent noticed, symbols create feelings too. And flags are for some the most holy symbol of a country. There are laws on how to handle a flag...Why do you think that is?

And George...just because I know how to kill a person dosnt mean I am going to. I might describe how to rape a person, guess what...dosnt mean I'm going to.

Exactly.[/size]

Now GS, why would you waste so much money on the acid like they state.  You should of come to me first.  Didn't you know you can immerse a body in regular store bought Coca Cola and get the same results in a day or 2.  Shit, after a day even most of the bone is rotted away, just depends if you cut up the body first.

hrm....no questions please

I knew that Fah....but sometimes you just don't have a day or two...[/size]

Pffft, if your near a farm, let the pigs handle it......what? I saw it in Snatch!

Hmmmm, Paul Rever Society ----> Flag burning and GS killing people -----> Cool ways to dispose of a body.

I love how the forums work.  </Worthless post>

     Mission Statement of the Paul Revere Society, taken from Michael Savage's website and translated from political-speak:

1. We hate fags.
2. We hate Mexicans.
3. We REALLY hate Mexicans.
4. Did we mention we hate those fuckin' beaners?
5. We're afraid of the SARS.
6. We're rich.
7. We hate niggers too.
8. We own companies and want the legal right to cut as many corners as we want.

1.  We don't HATE homosexuals.  I don't think they should be allowed marriage rights, however.
2.  We don't hate Mexicans.  We simply don't think they should be able to freely enter this country illegally.
3.  We don't REALLY hate Mexicans.  We believe that when they do come to this country, they should be required to learn English.
4.  Do not be a racist and use language like that in front of me.  I find it very offensive.
5.  SARS?
6.  What's wrong with being rich?
7.  Again, don't use racist language around me.  That is very offensive to me.
8.  We do not want to cut corners.  But at the same time, over-regulation by the government is a bad thing that hinders economic growth.[/size]

Regardless of whether thats really what it says, it was still funny as hell.

And now a similar translation from GS-speak, addressed to the object parties:


1.  I don't hate you - I just don't think you deserve the same rights I have and I resent your existence.
2.  I don't hate you - I just think that because you weren't born under the same circumstances as I was, you shouldn't have access to my country if I and my government don't say so.
3.  I don't really hate you - I just don't think you deserve the same opportunities as people of my ethnicity and background.  Oh and your culture isn't as valuable as mine if you live in the United States <LoudNotes' sarcasm>because English is the official language of the US, right?</sarcasm>
4.  I'm too weak to acknowledge my own prejudices, so I try to hide them in politically correct language.
5.  I'm not afraid of SARS the disease, I just hate Chinese people.
6.  If you're poor, it's your own damn fault.
7.  Again, I hate black people but I can't acknowledge it to myself.
8.  I hate government.

Now my take:

English is not required in the United States - it is helpful and immigrants would probably find it in their best interests to learn, but there is no legal or otherwise obligation to learn it.  People born in the United States are such because of luck, and we don't have any innate superiority.  Limiting immigration will inevitably prevent some people from getting to move here.  If they are still so determined that they come illegally, they are going to be more appreciative of this country than most of its citizens, and deserve to stay.

Why do you find racial slurs any more offensive than your own prejudices, couched in friendlier terms?

SARS is the Asian disease Sudden Acute Respiratory Syndrome.  The Paul Revere Society appears to be strongly xenophobic, and the Chinese in particular exemplify a dual enemy - they're different and they're Communist.  ::shudder::  Do you realize the positions of this group are vestiges of political ideology that's been discredited for 50-150 years?  Anti-immigration was big in the 19th century, and red-baiting hasn't exactly been in vogue of late.

Nothing wrong with being rich, but flaunting it and showing no regard for those less fortunate is wrong.

Government regulation of business is entirely intentional.  The most efficient means of production is always the unregulated - producers would naturally use the most efficient means without being prompted by the government.  Thus all regulations are designed with the knowledge that they will inhibit growth.  Generally that's a good thing that ensures that all cars come with seatbelts, for example.