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Title: Michael Moore May Face Charges in Canada
Post by: BTs_Mysterio on July 16, 2004, 01:48:56 am
http://www.canada.com/national/nationalpost/news/story.html?id=7069d2f4-7750-4463-b2c9-19a364ab4bf0

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Moore broke election law, student says

chargemoore.com: Filmmaker urged Canadians not to vote for Harper

Martin Patriquin

National Post      Saturday, July 10, 2004

An Ontario-based conservative group is petitioning Parliament to charge Michael Moore with attempting to influence last month's federal election, after the left-wing U.S. filmmaker urged Canadians not to vote for Stephen Harper.

At a Toronto screening of his film Fahrenheit 9/11, an indictment of the administration of U.S. President George W. Bush, Mr. Moore said Mr. Harper "has a big pair of scissors in his hands and wants to snip away at the social safety net that distinguishes [Canada] from [the United States]."

He suggested a Conservative victory in the June 28 election would "be such a blow to those of us trying to get rid of Bush."

As far as Kasra Nejatian, a 21-year-old Queen's University student, is concerned, Mr. Moore broke the law. Specifically, the Canada Elections Act, which states "[no] person who does not reside in Canada shall, during an election period, in any way induce electors to vote or refrain from voting or vote or refrain from voting for a particular candidate" unless the person is a Canadian citizen or a permanent resident.

Mr. Nejatian has set up a Web site, chargemoore.com and is asking Canadians to sign his petition -- which he wants to present to Elections Canada, along with a formal complaint. Should Elections Canada pursue the complaint against Mr. Moore, it would be the first time a non-Canadian would be charged under the Elections Act.

"I was tired of this guy going around and telling Canadians about a topic which he knows nothing about," Mr. Nejatian said yesterday. "This guy's propaganda is bad enough in the U.S., but at least there he's not breaking the law. He broke the law here."

Individuals cannot pursue alleged infractions of the Act; only Elections Canada can. However, Mr. Nejatian said he will challenge Elections Canada in court should it not take up his complaint. Mr. Nejatian further noted he was interested only in Canadian signatures -- if only to avoid having Mr. Moore start a "Republican conspiracy" in Canada.

Mr. Nejatian's lawyer, Calgary-based Jonathan Denis, would not comment on the case's merits, but said the law's "clear intent is to prevent foreign interference in federal elections in Canada." This particular section became law in 2000, when Parliament last modified the Elections Act.

The law says anyone who "wilfully contravenes" the Act regulating foreign influence is guilty of an offence -- an important distinction, Mr. Denis said.

"The person's intent is key here. To me, Mr. Moore's comments directly intend to influence voters."

Should Mr. Moore be found guilty of violating the Act, he could face a $2,000 fine and/or six months in jail, although Mr. Denis doubts Mr. Moore would do any jail time.

Reached for comment yesterday, Chief Elections Officer Jean-Pierre Kingsley would not comment on the specific merits of the such a complaint.

"Anyone who wants to bring forth a complaint does so in writing to the commissioner of Canada Elections," Mr. Kingley said through a spokesperson.

Mr. Nejatian, president of Ontario's Campus Conservatives, has been politically active for several years. He ran against and lost to former Liberal Cabinet minister David Collenette in the 2000 election.

"This is the first time I've tried to sue a foreign national, but I think he deserves it," Mr. Nejatian said.

Mr. Moore could not be reached for comment.

This is shameful. What's so odd there. The guy who's pointing this out, I see him on TV right now, just sounds like some nerdy little reject. HA! He just got cut off because his connection was terminated for some reason. This is ridiculous though. The law is completely foolish. Why shouldn't he be able to say his opinion because he isn't a resident. The Conservative party (which he told us not to vote for) is evil like Bush. They are Republicans in Canada. He is correct and this little shit is just trying to be a dipshit about his loss. He ran for this party in a previous election so he isn't one to point out things in the interest of Canada.


Title: Re:Michael Moore May Face Charges in Canada
Post by: "Sixhits" on July 16, 2004, 02:45:36 am
Lol.


That's free speach for for yah. And that those wacky conservatives trying to curb freedom when it doesn't suit them.


Title: Re:Michael Moore May Face Charges in Canada
Post by: BTs_Mysterio on July 16, 2004, 03:08:56 am
Exactly Six. But this law that states "no one from outside of the country can say to vote or not to vote for a certain person during election time" is old and stupid BS.


Title: Re:Michael Moore May Face Charges in Canada
Post by: Mr.Mellow on July 16, 2004, 03:47:00 am
Damn it. Why can't they find something better to get him on? :( Stupid nerds and their nerdy ways. I'm sure he's done something more illegal than that.  ;D


Title: Re:Michael Moore May Face Charges in Canada
Post by: BTs_Mysterio on July 16, 2004, 04:12:10 am
Again good job Mellow.


Title: Re:Michael Moore May Face Charges in Canada
Post by: seth on July 17, 2004, 12:15:48 am
btw, in is documentary, Moore is making fun of US's allies in Irak, wich leads to the following information.
Did you know that after Spain, Nicaragua, Honduras, Dominican Republic, Thailand and Philippines have or are in the process of removing all their troops from Irak !



Title: Re:Michael Moore May Face Charges in Canada
Post by: cO.gabe on July 17, 2004, 12:50:45 am
*Iraq


Title: Re:Michael Moore May Face Charges in Canada
Post by: BTs_Mysterio on July 17, 2004, 01:18:34 am
Good job Gabe.


Title: Re:Michael Moore May Face Charges in Canada
Post by: Maniac on July 17, 2004, 01:52:30 am
I think that he should go down. He is a evil person and his movie was one sided bullshit, to try and get some glory if Kerry wins the election he can think to himslef that he had something to do with it. A lot of people liked it, but i don't think it's an accurate point of view.


Title: Re:Michael Moore May Face Charges in Canada
Post by: BTs_Mysterio on July 17, 2004, 01:54:29 am
I don't like Moore but this attempt is a bit of a low blow.


Title: Re:Michael Moore May Face Charges in Canada
Post by: Maniac on July 17, 2004, 02:13:34 am
A low blow? Everyone knows that he doesn't like the Bush Administration. So it's clear that he would try to burn him.


Title: Re:Michael Moore May Face Charges in Canada
Post by: BTs_Mysterio on July 17, 2004, 02:33:15 am
This has nothing to do with Bush.

(if this is a double post damn the lag delay on Post 1)


Title: Re:Michael Moore May Face Charges in Canada
Post by: westamastaflash on July 17, 2004, 10:50:28 pm
lol. Thats what canada gets for their years of political correctness. This law was passed during the dominance of the Liberal party, and they deserve everything they get for their destruction of free speech.


Title: Re:Michael Moore May Face Charges in Canada
Post by: BTs_Mysterio on July 18, 2004, 03:03:33 am
West... Let's just say this, this doesn't hurt any Canadian free speech just nosey people who walk in from other countries.


Title: Re:Michael Moore May Face Charges in Canada
Post by: westamastaflash on July 18, 2004, 03:43:45 am
lol. It'd be nice if we had something like that here in the US. Then we can stop caring what the "world community" wants.


Title: Re:Michael Moore May Face Charges in Canada
Post by: BTs_Mysterio on July 18, 2004, 03:49:11 am
Were you implying something there west?


Title: Re:Michael Moore May Face Charges in Canada
Post by: KoS PY.nq.ict on July 18, 2004, 08:11:23 am
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Title: Re:Michael Moore May Face Charges in Canada
Post by: BTs_Mysterio on July 18, 2004, 05:49:17 pm
I think he's calling Bronto....


Title: Re:Michael Moore May Face Charges in Canada
Post by: PY on July 19, 2004, 07:28:44 am
I think he's calling Bronto....


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Title: Re:Michael Moore May Face Charges in Canada
Post by: BTs_Mysterio on July 19, 2004, 07:39:26 am
Something feels deceivingly off here.


Title: Re:Michael Moore May Face Charges in Canada
Post by: seth on July 20, 2004, 08:08:17 pm
http://www.cnn.com/2004/SHOWBIZ/Music/07/19/ronstadt.reut/index.html

A good news ! Only a quarter of the people left the room. Say bye bye to Bush...


Title: Re:Michael Moore May Face Charges in Canada
Post by: BTs_Mysterio on July 20, 2004, 08:43:01 pm
I claim BS. Who owns the casino? Bush?


Title: Re:Michael Moore May Face Charges in Canada
Post by: westamastaflash on July 21, 2004, 02:43:04 pm
The point more is that she was hired to entertain, not espouse her views. I'd be pissed even if say, Charlie Daniels was doing a concert and spent all the time talking about bush. I want to hear music - i read the news and the internet for political stuff.


Title: Re:Michael Moore May Face Charges in Canada
Post by: BFG on July 21, 2004, 04:26:07 pm
.... Whats that dude with the hair called... u know, um singer (well if you can call it that) short, fat, plays piano - did the "Candle in the wind" when Diana Died... Shit i can't remember his name - anyway apparently he had somthing similiar when he raised issue with artists being penalised for publicising their friends etc...

.. why the F can't i remember the guys name?!


Title: Re:Michael Moore May Face Charges in Canada
Post by: Mr. Lothario on July 21, 2004, 04:47:05 pm
     Elton John. Or is it Sir these days?


Title: Re:Michael Moore May Face Charges in Canada
Post by: BTs_Mysterio on July 21, 2004, 05:00:21 pm
Oh well, if all they did was dedicate one song without saying anything more it shouldn't have mattered.


Title: Re:Michael Moore May Face Charges in Canada
Post by: BFG on July 21, 2004, 08:01:17 pm
Elton John! thanks loth, and yeah sir... not that he deserves it!

Thing is they  wouldn't have minded if she'd dedicated it to the retarded ape fund george bush fund thingy... its just wrong, glad to hear there was uproar and good attempts at starting a riot ;)


Title: Re:Michael Moore May Face Charges in Canada
Post by: BTs_Mysterio on July 21, 2004, 09:40:43 pm
Pure insanity.