*DAMN R6 Forum

Alright guys, time for another quiz!  The first person to post with all of the correct answers wins GameRanger Premium Membership for a year!  It doesn't matter if you already are Premium or not, you will either get a new Premium membership or I will set it up with Evill to extend your current membership by a year.

Here are the questions:

1.  In Ghost Recon, you can be a demolitions soldier and carry the M136....what do members of the U.S. Army actually call this weapon?

2.  What was the first military force in the world to adopt the Glock pistol as its primary handgun?

3.  Who is the most highly decorated person in U.S. Military history (hint, he is dead)?

4.  Who are the only two father-and-son Medal of Honor recipients (hint--this is two fathers-and-sons....so there are 4 people that should be listed here)?

5.  What mainstay of the Ford auto line will be discontinued for regular retail production after the 2004 model year (Hint--it WILL continue as a fleet vehicle)?

6.  What was the fastest man-made (and manned) object ever to fly in Earth's atmosphere?

7.  "Don't Run, You'll Just Die Tired" is the motto of what school?

8.  What is the chamber pressure of the M-16A2 when fired?

9.  What is special about the plastic hand-grips on the M-16A2 versus the ones that were on the M-16A1?

10.  Out of all the *DAMN Battle League Admins (this does not include admins from any other part of the forum), which one is the biggest punk (this is an opinion question, so any answer is technically correct--also, let it be known that some of them don't qualify as "punks" at all)?

*Bonus Question--You get nothing special for this bonus except a tremendous amount of respect, admiration, and affection from me for getting it right:

Who makes the plastic hand grips on the M-16?


P.S. Anybody who has previously won a quiz is not allowed to participate in this one.

And this explains a high amount of unusual PM's I've received this afternoon.

I'll be nice and give away a few of the answers that come to my mind since I won't be needing a Premium account...the rest of you can try to find the tough ones.

2) Austrian Military (I believe)

6) X-15, Mach 6.7

7) Sniper School, JFK Center for Special Warfare

8) 52000 PSI (you're going to have to look this one up yourselves, I believe this is the answer)

1.  M136 AT4 Anti-Tank Weapon.

2.  Austria

3.  Hackworth

4.  Arthur MacArthur, Douglas MacArthur.

5.  Excursion

6.  SR-71 Blackbird X-15

7.  JFK Center for Special Warfare

8.  52,000 psi (358,540 kPa)

9.  Improved ergonomics ???

10.  Flies ;D

*Bonus Question. Not a clue. ???

So how many I get right?

1)AT4
2) Austrian
3) David H Hackworth(living(eight Purple Hearts, nine Silver Stars and eight Bronze Stars.) )
4)Arthur MacArther & Douglas Macarther
5)the Taurus
6)X-15: Major Robert M. White(Mach 4,5,&6) (neil Armstrong unofficially went to Mach 6.7)
7) JFK Center for Special Warfare, Sniper School, Ca 1976
8)52000psi
9)the hand grip is made from injection molded plastic, making it easier to manufacture, more comfortable to hold, but also made it more durable and less prone to breakage.   
10)CIVIC OF COURSE!!!

as for your bonus...I wish i knew, but I don't. Please tell!

Just a clue for some of you.

Answer #6 can't be something that didn't make it into double digit Mach numbers.  I think it's around Mach 17 ish (16.5 at a minimum)

Says flown in Earth's Atmosphere, not in orbit around space Bucc.

lol, sorry to name a source to find an answer.....unfortunately they got the wrong answer....the Excursion isn't quite a "mainstay" of Ford.....there is another vehicle.....

Okay, I added some hints to the questions.....go take another look at them.

are you accepting controlled gliding decent as falling or flying GS, that makes a big difference for what the answer for 6

The correct answer has already been given for Question 6.....Psycho, Ross, and Bloody Brit all have that one right.  So no, the Space Shuttle is not it.

Seeing most questions have been answered, I will give it a shot  ;D.

1.? M136 AT4 Anti-Tank Weapon.
2.? Austria
3.? You said DEAD, Hackworth I believe is still alive.  Audie Murphy is dead and was considered most decorated
4.? Arthur MacArthur, Douglas MacArthur.two Theodore Roosevelt's
5.? Crown Victoria
6.? X-15 (I thought it could be space shuttle, but you say no. Space shuttle is just gliding, its not powered flight)
7.? JFK Center for Special Warfare
8.? 52,000 psi
9.? Stronger grips
10.? BFG


:MoD: Nomad

Hey, the space shuttle is a lifting body, same as the X15, and hits the atmosphere at around Mach 17 or so when it actually has to start "flying".

So it is "flown in earth's atmosphere", and it is manned.  And it is going a butt load faster.  You didn't say it was exclusively flown in earths atmosphere, and while flying in the atmosphere it has to perform breaking maneuvers to slow it down from Mach 17 to Mach 1.  

BTW, while it orbit, it's going more like Mach 25.

So, as asked, the Space Shuttle is the right answer GS, even if you weren't thinking of it when you asked the question :)

1.  In Ghost Recon, you can be a demolitions soldier and carry the M136....what do members of the U.S. Army actually call this weapon?
     M136 AT4

2.  What was the first military force in the world to adopt the Glock pistol as its primary handgun?
     The Austrian Army

3.  Who is the most highly decorated person in U.S. Military history (hint, he is dead)?
     Audie Murphy
     
4.  Who are the only two father-and-son Medal of Honor recipients (hint--this is two fathers-and-sons....so there are 4 people that should be listed here)?
     Douglas and Arthur MacArthur, Theodore Roosevelt Sr. and Jr.

5.  What mainstay of the Ford auto line will be discontinued for regular retail production after the 2004 model year (Hint--it WILL continue as a fleet vehicle)?
     Crown Victoria

6.  What was the fastest man-made (and manned) object ever to fly in Earth's atmosphere?
     X-15

7.  "Don't Run, You'll Just Die Tired" is the motto of what school?
     Sniper School, JFK Center for Special Warfare

8.  What is the chamber pressure of the M-16A2 when fired?
     52,000 PSI

9.  What is special about the plastic hand-grips on the M-16A2 versus the ones that were on the M-16A1?
     Redesigned for better grip and increased durability. Ribbed and round instead of smooth and triangular. Composed of two identical halves.

10.  Out of all the *DAMN Battle League Admins (this does not include admins from any other part of the forum), which one is the biggest punk (this is an opinion question, so any answer is technically correct--also, let it be known that some of them don't qualify as "punks" at all)?
      Definitely Bucc. What a punk.

1)AT4

2) Austrian's

3)   After intensive searching, I discovered that the 'most decorated' title is given to alot of people. In fact, it is entirely based upon opinion it seems, with no real clear winner listed anywhere. Due to this, I have listed those Who were listed in various places as the highest decorated.

 Now first and foremost, I would say Audie Murphy. However, I have been told he was only the highest decorated WWII serviceman although many people think he was the highest decorated of all time.

General Douglas MacArther was the most highly decorated officer ever. Unfortunatly there is no information on the number of decorations so I can't verify if he is indeed the most highly decorated soldier.

Col. George "Bud" Day is the second highest decorated officer ever with 70 citations, holding every significant combat award.

4)Theodore Roosevelt and his son,  General Theodore Roosevelt and General Douglas MacArthur and his father,  General Arthur MacArthur.

5)the Taurus

6)X-15: Major Robert M. White(Mach 4,5,&6) (neil Armstrong unofficially went to Mach 6.7)

7) JFK Center for Special Warfare, Sniper School, Ca 1976

8 ) 52000psi

9 )After ALOT of asking around on AA, it appears the plastic grip is not only more durable (as noted on almost every site on the net) but was also much more comfortable, made it easier to grip, and thus increased the accuracy of the users. The reason for this? it was ribbed. This was specifically designed with vietnam-like warfare in mind, where the m16 revealed it problems in all their glory. Apparantly, during combat, without the ribs they are difficult to grip and uncomfotable. Especially when wet or in a combat sit. where sweating iis part of the course.

"a redesigned handguard, using two identical halves, with a round contour which is sturdier and provides a better grip when holding the rifle;"

10)CIVIC OF COURSE!!!


oh!, and the bonus. think I'll have a pop. I think it was either Knights / Stoner Company or Armalite

oh, and the m16 & m16a1's hand guards were made of fibreglass as opposed to the injection moulded plastic now used in the m16 a2,a3 and a4. Fibreglass? I can't think of anything weaker....except mb balser wood.

1, No idea

2, No idea

3, No idea

4, No idea

5, No idea

6, No idea

7, No idea

8, No idea

9, No idea

10.... now thats easy....

BoC?.vooDoo.-a2-, ?Hazard, z][t-Civic?, Typhy, BTs_Lee.Harvey, |MP|Buccaneer, :MoD: BFG, [one] Gambit, | ! | Flies, TRIBE_Horda, c| Splinter, Aramarth

;) :D

do i win?

wiggy, stop being so damn bored at work

Okay, so far here are the questions that people have right, and the questions that nobody has gotten right yet:

1.  The AT4

2.  The Austrian Army

3.  Although nobody said him by himself, it is indeed General of the Army Douglas MacArthur, who has combat decorations from World War 1 (2 Distinguished Service Crosses, 7 Silver Stars, 3 Purple Hearts), World War II (The Medal of Honor, 3 Distinguished Service Medals), and the Korean War (Another Distinguished Service Medal and the Distinguished Flying Cross--funny story on that one!).  In addition to these, he has something like 80 other decorations.

4.  Arthur MacArthur and Douglas MacArthur, and Theodore Roosevelt and Theodore Roosevelt, Jr.

5.  Ford Taurus, which will only be available as a Fleet Vehicle after the 2004 model year.

6.  X-15....sorry Bucc, but the 4 forces of flight are: Thrust, Drag, Lift, and Gravity.  That is by the very definition of flight.  So as the Space Shuttle does not have Thrust, it can not be said to be flying while in the atmosphere, merely falling under controlled conditions.

7.  John F. Kennedy Center for Special Warfare, which, by the way, is where I recieved my HALO training when I was a Ranger.

8.  52,000 psi, which any person who has ever served in the Army can tell you (they drilled that shit into our brains all during basic training!).

9.  So far nobody has gotten this answer correct.  Although I will tell you that the two plastic pieces being identical does have something to do with it--hint, hint.

10.  Of course this one is just opinion, so any BL Admin you put here will be correct.

Bonus:  You guys will laugh your asses off when you find out who makes the plastic hand grips for the main battle weapon of the U.S. Military.

Your answer to number 9, the upper-lower sections are identical and interchangable. Prior to this they were 2 different pieces and not interchangable.

So, the complete list.
1.  M136 AT4 Anti-Tank Weapon.
2.  Austrian Army
3.  Douglas MacArthur
4.  Arthur MacArthur, Douglas MacArthur.Theodore Roosevelt Sr.,Theodore Roosevelt Jr
5.  Ford Taurus
6.  X-15 (I thought it could be space shuttle, but you say no. Space shuttle is just gliding, its not powered flight)
7.  JFK Center for Special Warfare
8.  52,000 psi
9.  upper/lower grip identical and interchangable
10.  BFG


:MoD: Nomad

 :(

nj Nomad. Beat me to it, although to be fair, we were all right to an extent. The official blurb is:

"On the Ml6A2, the handguards are round and ridged , making them stronger and easier to ?grip. ?The ?handguards ?are ?interchangeable; ?the handguard retaining ring is also specially contoured and easier ?to ?grip"

Nomad gets the win!  And extra credit for picking BFG!!!  (although for me it would be a toss-up between him and Typhy).  Nomad, pm me with your GameRanger ID so I can get you your Premium.

Also, since nobody could get the bonus, here it is:

Mattel Toy Company.  Isn't that funny?

LOL.. Firstly nomad you rock! secondly.. me? what did i do!?!

Punk? Me! Oh dear skillz has seen me on ichat and i don't think he would call me a punk.. but depends how we define 'punk'... either im deeply insulted or.. or.. um flattered? lol

Gj nomad... :)

Thanks Everyone! This was fun!! 8)

lol BFG  ;D. How about I define punk as "Cool Dude".  ;) This would be called sucking up to the boss  ;D, lol.

:MoD: Nomad

GS is  a nice guy ;-) ur rich GS??!?

lol....I am only rich by the Democrat's definition of the word (someone making over $100,000 a year).  In the eyes of my Republican friends, I am far from rich  ;)


P.S. Nomad, you are now Premium!

     ::shrug::

Yes, but the answer was that they are interchangable, which is what makes the M-16A1 grips different than the M-16A2 grips.  That was one of the main reasons the Army wanted them changed, cause out on the battlefield, it made things just that much more difficult if you needed to swap pieces if they are all the not the same.

Besides, your answer for #3 and #5 were wrong anyway.

omg GS... u'r cool =P =P "Man Of The Year" heh...

Lol, I'm lucky i don't need premium or a renewal yet. otherwise i'd be pissed i didn't give it a shot.

Actually, you couldn't have played because you are a previous winner....that was a footnote rule for this quiz.

Given your definition of flight, I'd accept re-entry as not being applicable, but not launch.  Since you agree it has the others, and is only missing thrust.  Now, any bets as to the velocity of the Space Shuttle while still in the atmosphere on it's way up being the fastest?

BTW, I also disagree with your definition, since I do think that you "fly" a glider.  

One last thing, unless things changed, which they may well could have, there were four vehicles being discontinued after 2004.  Taurus, LTD Crown Vic, Thunderbird would all be considered mainstays of the Ford community.  Thunderbird is eliminated because I know it's not a fleet vehicle.  Taurus and Crown Vic's both are.  So, I'm guessing that the Crown Vic ended up getting renewed for general sales 2005 now??

Nope, launch doesn't work either.....at launch the Space Shuttle is basically just a missile....it is not using lift to achieve flight, only thrust.  The wings are not being used to provide any lift at launch.  You can't win here....you are an automotive engineer.....and I was an aerospace science major before I began my quest for history (plus being a pilot myself helps).  lol


Yes, the Crown Vic as of right now has been slated for 2005 production.  But who knows if that will stick....lol

Wow! Is there anything this guy CAN'T do?

i know one thing he cant do...... for some reason he cant stop making these posts  ;) :D

LOL!  OMG....that was a GREAT 69th Post Wiggy!

Yes!  Actually, I've never been very good at math.  That is why after my first year at Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University, I dropped Aerospace Science and decided to go with History instead (had a far lower expectation of my math skills!).

Some other things GhostSniper can't do:

1.  Although I scored "hawk-eye" (40 out of 40 hits) with the M-16 three times in the Army, I never could do the same thing with the M-4 (a slightly shorter version of the M-16).  The best I ever fired with the M-4 was 39 out of 40, which still made me an expert marksman, but never failed to piss me off.

2.  I can't wiggle my ears.  I swear, as hard as I try, I just can't do it.

3.  I can't sell 200 cars in one month.  My current record is 197 in a month.  I just can't do it....I don't know why.  After the 197 month, my next best was 188.  I just don't understand.

4.  I can't kill Typhy.  As much as I may want to, something deep down inside tells me that this is just wrong and I shouldn't do it.  But I'm not sure yet if that would stop me from beating the living shit out of him on his 18th Birthday.  Only time will tell.

5.  I can't pull 7 G's without blacking out (without a G-suit).  I've tried, but I just can't do it.  7 is just my max.

6.  I can't play in Season VIII as a member of the BattleTek Squad.  As much as I would enjoy the carnage, I just can't do it.  It's a conspiracy I tell you!  And Lee Harvey Ozwald did NOT shoot President Kennedy!!!

7.  I can't vote for John F'ing Kerry for President.  I don't know why, but I just feel that if I did my f'ing heart would explode and kill me.

8.  I can't get a Cessna 337 to land in less than 500 feet.  Other people have done it, but I just can't.

9.  I can't run a mile in under 4 minutes.  Even when I was a Ranger in the Army my personal best was still a bit over 5 minutes.

10.  I can't get Alaric to stop annoying me in these forums.  I've tried being his friend.  I've tried getting Typhy to suck his dick.  Nothing seems to work.  Oh well, I just can't do it.

I'm sure there are other things I can't do, but that is all I can think of right now.

-GhostSniper Out.

How about something like shut the fuck up?

Well said, ace. Been thinking the same thing myself, although i prefer the term "Attention Whore."

Three reasons why you are wrong here GS.

1) You wrongly assumed I am, or ever was, an Automotive Engineer, and think that it has anything at all to do with my knowledge on the subject.

2) The X-15 is more of a missile than the Space Shuttle.  It didn't leave the ground under it's own power, it was launched from another plane.  It used rocket engines that only lasted for 90 seconds.  A minute and a half.  So it's lift wasn't used either. The rest of the flight was unpowered.  Even the Shuttle had more control than that.  The lift in the X-15's wings was only used in unpowered landings, same as the Shuttle.

BTW, the X-15 was also used outside the earths atmosphere in many experiments.  So it too, was technically a space craft.

3) There is nothing, in the context of your question, that would eliminate the Shuttle and not the X-15 as well.  Don't forget that the X-15 was one of the things used to help design the shuttle.  They share many attributes.  

Time to just admit that you didn't think of the Shuttle when asking the question GS.

Oh, and I forgot, yeah, the Crown Vic has more lives than my neighbors cat.  It's been cancelled at least 5 times that I know of, only to be brought back due to decent sales numbers and crys from the salesman that they need the only full sized car still.

I know it will still be in fleets longer than the Aerostar has been though.

1.  Nah, I was just joking around with you about the Automotive Engineer part.....

2.  You are thinking of lift as the thing that got the X-15 into the air.....that isn't what I'm talking about when I say lift.  Lift is the effect of air traveling faster over the top of an airfoil than it does under it.  This effect is what creates lift.  While the X-15 was under powered flight, it's wings were providing lift....the tremendous amount of thrust from it's rocket engines simply made large wings unneeded, which is why they look so small.  So, as far as a man-mad, man-carrying object that was actually FLYING in the earth's atmosphere (under all 4 conditions of flight), the X-15 was the fastest.  And you are correct, the X-15 was used just outside what is technically considered the earth's atmosphere (those pilots were in fact awarded astronaut wings), but it was still the fastest aircraft that flew INSIDE the earth's atmosphere.

3.  The biggest difference between why the X-15 gets the record and the Space Shuttle doesn't, is that the X-15 was actually POWERED when it made it's record speed.

But, just in case you don't believe me (the aviation knowledge master of the universe), here is some proof for you from the Guiness Book of World Records:

Fastest Winged Aircraft
On October 3, 1967, an X-15A-2 piloted by USAF Major William J. "Pete" Knight, was released from its B-52 mother plane at 10,668 m. (35,000 ft.) above the Mojave Desert where it achieved an absolute speed record of Mach 6.7.

And there you have it :)

Pwned by the GhostSniper.

My post from last night seems to have been lost in some sort of forum restore, so I'm going to give this a much quicker answer than last time.

But be it known GS, that it was a pretty pwn I did last night.  This one will just not be so pretty.

First, the little pwn.  I know all about lift.  But, you seemed to have missed a little.  The reason the wings on the X-15 are so stubby has nothing at all to do with how much thrust was involved.  Since the lift provided at that time actually hurt the flight profile of it.  No, the size of the airfoils was determined by the weight of the aircraft when out of fuel.  Since the only time lift was needed was in it's un-powered landings.  Don't believe me?  You should check out the X-15's web site.  The wing size on the X-15 is just what is needed to bring the empty (of fuel) plane to a safe landing.

There is a major flaw in your logic.  You don't seem to know enough about the X-15.  Since the X-15 was pretty much your experimental prototype for many of the designs of the Shuttle, let's go over the flight profiles of each.

Both need assistance to get off the ground.  A big ass bomber or a couple solid rocket boosters.

During launch (and they are both launced) both aircrafts experience lift from their wings that has to be compensated for to keep them on course.  In the case of the X-15, it's a constant pushing of the nose down to keep it from looping back.  In the case of the shuttle, it's just putting that in the course calculations.

The only real difference between the two aircraft on launch is one is like a 747 on autopilot, while the other is more manual.  But just because the 747 is on auto pilot, doesnt mean it's not flying, so we can't hold that against the Shuttles.

Both are meant to operate in atmosphere and out of it.  

Both have had missions outside the atmosphere.

If there is one closer to a missile, it would have to be the X-15, since it's actually shot from an airplane itself, and accelerates quicker than the shuttle (so if the shuttle doesn't use it's lift, there's no way the X-15 did) :)

In both cases, powered flight (thrust) is a very short percentage of the mission.  The thrust of an X-15 lasted only about a minute and a half.  8 times shorter or so than the Shuttle, which has that big drop tank of fuel.

Both are rocket powered.

Both make un-powered landings.

BTW, when the Shuttle is in Launch, it is also powered, and is moving faster, under that same power than the X-15 did, which blows away your point number 3.

Last, but not least, Guiness.  Pffft.  Guiness wouldn't change the record unless challenged to.  That could be as simple as nobody at NASA asking them to.  Not proof at all to me.

And this was my reply from last night that was lost:


lol....So Noted.

Bring it on. :D

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20040328/D81J3DA80.html (http://apnews.myway.com/article/20040328/D81J3DA80.html)

Thought this might be topical...


ps. Typhy could kick your ass any day of the week GS, even with his broken arm.

Could have made the record I was looking for had it been manned.


Please.  Don't even insult me like that.  I've Forgotten more about hand-to-hand combat than Typhy will ever know.

And besides that....

"Silent Souls Leave .308 Holes."

I can't believe this thread has lived this long! NJ guys

I'm thinking that it was closer to what you are thinking, since it's a jet, not a rocket.  The X-15 and Shuttle are both rockets.