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Title: Raven Shield Browser Server Managment!
Post by: bronto on January 29, 2004, 03:51:26 am
Heyo,

Ive been working on this for several days, smurf would know. And i finally got the .dll to work with .php forum with MAC's Raven Shield Build 294.

Its in beta, so i wont release it yet since if theirs a problem i know im gona get swamped with complaints but so far everything is working.

You can view live stats off the players, hes weapons, kits being used, rotation, maps, pictures, and justa bout everything

You can also admin your server, restart, kick and ban people without being at the server!

I provided some SS so you can drool

(http://www.matrixcg.net/moh/Picture%201.jpg)

(http://www.matrixcg.net/moh/Picture%202.jpg)

This would be handy for big servers! =)


Title: Re:Raven Shield Browser Server Managment!
Post by: |MP|Buccaneer on January 29, 2004, 06:15:27 am
Actually, if anyone at all wants to have a web page showing the status of any RvS game, all they have to do is Click here to download.[/i] (http://mp.macclans.com/files/ServerQuery.sitx)

It's a PHP script that all they have to do is open up, point to the correct IP and put it on a web server (capable of running PHP anyway).  

No .dll's, no conversions, no nothing.  It's a script by a guy named Chicago from a PC clan.  It even has the modules if you use nuke for your web site.  At most you may want to clean it up and make it match your site.  By default, it looks like this:

http://mp.macclans.com/staticpages/rvs-server.php

We'll be cleaning that up and pulling the information to the MP server pages on our site soon, but I wanted you to see what it looked like out of the box (and giving credit to those that actually wrote it).  


Title: Re:Raven Shield Browser Server Managment!
Post by: Jeb on January 29, 2004, 08:00:23 am
i'll bet money that is what mainman is "making", and it does surprise me that he can spell php.
someone check the source!

Btw, bucc we need to use that in the 2.0 of the mp site



Title: Re:Raven Shield Browser Server Managment!
Post by: crypt on January 29, 2004, 01:57:08 pm
Actually, MP, main already included the main coders in his version, so why not use his? And you can remote admin his, which it doesn't look like you can do the same.  

This is his server currently, it clearly shows that mainman did the porting and that the original coders get the credit they deserve.

http://216.161.101.31/rvsstats/ (http://216.161.101.31/rvsstats/)


Title: Re:Raven Shield Browser Server Managment!
Post by: mainman2lazy on January 29, 2004, 05:37:22 pm
Jeb stfu

Heres the real download link

http://www.atwar.net/download.php?view.914



Title: Re:Raven Shield Browser Server Managment!
Post by: MainMaN on January 29, 2004, 05:51:18 pm
Besides the shitty interface. The one i provided uses RvS UDPBeacon, allowing tons of more information and control.


Title: Re:Raven Shield Browser Server Managment!
Post by: Jeb on January 30, 2004, 02:29:11 am
my point is that you didn't make it.
Mainman can't even make a proper forum link, and yet he can take credit for a highly advanced php query tool, exactly.
You don't see mauti putting his name all over the mods he ports over.


Title: Re:Raven Shield Browser Server Managment!
Post by: crypt on January 30, 2004, 02:35:42 am
Jeb, there is already due credit, so why must you make false posts?


Title: Re:Raven Shield Browser Server Managment!
Post by: MainMaN on January 30, 2004, 02:45:08 am
Jeb, i understand your consern but i do give all credit to the orginal coders. All i simply do is provide a mac install for this awsome mananger and well as read me for customization. If im spending this time pulling it together, i think i deserve a little credit for providing this as i did to the other 20 RvS maps that i converted for monoman. Also im adding functions....

p.s. i dont give a rats ass if the link isnt "acceptable" or not


Title: Re:Raven Shield Browser Server Managment!
Post by: Jeb on January 30, 2004, 04:48:59 am
crypt, suck my ass.

mainman, what functions might you be adding? Snipe is more knowledgeable than you are with html.


Title: Re:Raven Shield Browser Server Managment!
Post by: |MP|Buccaneer on January 30, 2004, 04:49:52 am
Actually, MP, main already included the main coders in his version,

Funny, I see Mainman's name at the bottom of the screenshot mainman provided, not the guy that actually wrote it.  And I also know the idiot's history with such things.

so why not use his? And you can remote admin his, which it doesn't look like you can do the same.  

Since there are no real dedicated servers for RvS on the Mac, and since Aspyr has already said that there wont be (can show you the e-mail if you wish) there is no need for a remote management app.  Since I can remote admin my computer from any other already, why do I need yet another application for this?

Add to that, why in the world would I trust anything that mainman has his hands in?  You are talking about a guy who has threatened to "upload a virus" to more than one MP's computers (as if).

This is his server currently, it clearly shows that mainman did the porting and that the original coders get the credit they deserve.

http://216.161.101.31/rvsstats/ (http://216.161.101.31/rvsstats/)

Doesn't seem to work.  Got nothing.  Sorry.

Besides the shitty interface. The one i provided uses RvS UDPBeacon, allowing tons of more information and control.

Shitty interface?  Nice way to read.  What kind of dumbass doesn't know how to change how a simple web page presents it's information?  Or are you just badmouthing it because it's not yours?

Yours doesn't seem to be providing any different information, btw, and since you can customize what is shown and what isn't in the php script, I don't think it's an issue.  Since the scripts all go to UDP port 8777 and get the info right from the game, I don't think you know what you are really talking about.


Title: Re:Raven Shield Browser Server Managment!
Post by: |MP|Buccaneer on January 30, 2004, 04:53:11 am
Jeb, i understand your consern but i do give all credit to the orginal coders.

You didn't do it in your screen shots, and I doubt you would have if I hadn't brought it up (just like with Loth's mod).  

Crypt, it wasn't false, all you have to do is look right at the screen shot Mainman provided.  You see his name, where's the others?  Just because he changed it after we bring it up doesn't mean we are all of a sudden wrong.

The difference is, just point to the scripts.  There are a few of them.  You can do the same thing with AA and other games based off UT.  You don't need to change the format for people just so you can slap your name on it.


Title: Re:Raven Shield Browser Server Managment!
Post by: crypt on January 30, 2004, 05:03:09 am
crypt, suck my ass.

If only you'd let me Jeb, if only you'd let me.

Bucc, it is working now, check it out.

Click the link, weap, be annoyed, cry, it's all there.

http://216.161.101.31/rvsstats/


Title: Re:Raven Shield Browser Server Managment!
Post by: MainMaN on January 30, 2004, 05:12:53 am
Bucc your oblivious to just about everything.

The ip works only when my computer is on. And it was on all last night, all this mourning, and all this evening. So trying taking a peek before u shit. And if that doesnt float ur bubble i have multiple witnesses that im more than happy to say i posted correct sources.

I take the time to distribute it. I take the time to tweek it and add more functions. And i would like to have a weee, tiny sentance that says MAC conversion by mainman. So 2 f@#@$# bad.

This app can be handy FOR others, not just your selfish self! Example, i ran my server today and could monitor it at a friends house. I dont think i wana drive 2 miles just so i can kick somebody. I think the rest you can figure out.

"has threatened to "upload a virus" rofl, where did u make this up? Does everything come out of your ass?

Bucc.. public says the N4ADMIN (ur shitty interface) sucks.


Title: Re:Raven Shield Browser Server Managment!
Post by: |MP|Buccaneer on January 30, 2004, 05:32:21 am
The ip works only when my computer is on.

Your computer was on and hosting an RVS room when I clicked on it jackass.  Or so the GR room said.

I take the time to distribute it. I take the time to tweek it and add more functions. And i would like to have a weee, tiny sentance that says MAC conversion by mainman.

Add functions my ass.

Example, i ran my server today and could monitor it at a friends house. I dont think i wana drive 2 miles just so i can kick somebody. I think the rest you can figure out.

Funny Dumbass, I kicked someone off my server from over 1100 miles away.  What's your fucking point?  Oh, that's right, you didn't read that I can admin the server remotely without your copying of someone else's work.

"has threatened to "upload a virus" rofl, where did u make this up? Does everything come out of your ass?

Actually, you said it to Willie Tell.  I doubt Willie would make up such a thing, I really do.  Whereas, I'm well aware of your lies (and how a classmate got into your account and tried to post stuff on the MP site. - sure).  

Bucc.. public says the N4ADMIN (ur shitty interface) sucks.

LMAO, so glad that you once again show how even the simple skill of reading is beyond you Mainman.  I don't have an interface at all, so I don't know what that is.  I know I pointed people to a script by Chicago, that is completely customizable and has modules for Nuke even.  Don't know what you are talking about, but then again, neither do you.


Title: Re:Raven Shield Browser Server Managment!
Post by: MainMaN on January 30, 2004, 06:02:24 am
Ok Bucc you win, are you happy. I mean, its not worth it aruging with ur ass. I could pick apart everything single pieace but why? Just so you can create more BS? I make these for the community and if they dont fit ur standerds than Screw you. Amit it you never want to loose, your one of the reason i hate online gaming cause i have to deal with selfish tards like you. Get a life, get friends, and find christ.  So to sum it up i will do what i wish.

Your not worth a second of my time nor a minute.

Fuck You.


Title: Re:Raven Shield Browser Server Managment!
Post by: Mr. Lothario on January 30, 2004, 06:16:50 am
...and find christ.

     VII: Thou Shalt Not Steal.


Title: Re:Raven Shield Browser Server Managment!
Post by: MainMaN on January 30, 2004, 06:30:17 am
Shut up loth, you as well i know you make a big idea outa everything. Hell, if i found a candy wraper you held and put it in my pocket you would spaz.

The mod NEVER used ur mod, god i was trying to learn how to make them and the whole time u were being a cock. So whats the point of doing anything? You always complain of everything your whole f@%@$@ clan does. For gosh sakes, it wasnt even that big! And you are the last person to contradict.


Title: Re:Raven Shield Browser Server Managment!
Post by: |MP|Cringe on January 30, 2004, 06:39:33 am
Yes, it did. We found whole files in your "mod" (Read: compilation of other peoples' hard work that had their names replaced with your own) that were identical to the ones that loth originally created.


Title: Re:Raven Shield Browser Server Managment!
Post by: MainMaN on January 30, 2004, 06:41:25 am
I never said it didnt! You guys make a WAY to big deal out of this. This was only suppose to be small. You guys dont give geeklog credit for your own damn site! I mean, if i want to make a mod thats not public (which it didnt) then 2 bad!


Title: Re:Raven Shield Browser Server Managment!
Post by: .vooDoo. on January 30, 2004, 06:43:03 am
Ok guys, time to live on and not dweel in the past. Mainman is a Minor and obviously likes working on these types of things. I certainly look at it as a way of learing. Take a deep breath and let it go.

**I have been asked to unlock this thread do to Mainman just taking scripts and slapping his own name on it. Please do not flame and just post the facts. Mainman, you obviously have a chance to speak up for yourself here so make it good**


Title: Re:Raven Shield Browser Server Managment!
Post by: |MP|Buccaneer on January 31, 2004, 12:02:02 am
Since Mainman was talking about all the hard work he was putting into the adding functions and customizing the script to make it work with the Mac, I decided to download the original and see how long it took to make work, and how different he had customized the interface.  Here are the sad results.

First, we'll take a look at the screenshot that Mainman provided, just so you don't have to page back.
(http://68.165.55.206/mp/images/mainman.jpg)
Notice that lovely caption on the bottom.  Take a good look at the page layout and information shown.

Now, I surfed out there and found quite a few of these "trackers" out there, and I'm sure there are more (maybe we'll put up a tracker like the one for AA if I find those scripts - but giving credit to the actual authors).  But I digress.  Here is one I found.  Look strangely familiar?

(http://68.165.55.206/mp/images/stats.jpg)

Except for having Team Scores and the original credits down there at the bottom.  It looks exactly like the one Mainman is saying he "customized" and "added features" to.  

So, I followed all the directions in the readme.  Had to put two files in the Raven Shield folder, had to upload the php (editing it with the proper IP) and had to edit an ini file in Raven Shield.  Total time was under 5 minutes.  I did not change the interface at all (though it's php, so again, I could have).  Everything worked.  No problems at all.  

I've left the stats up on the MP site now, and removed the code for the remote admin (I don't want it to be that accessible, ever, it's just asking for trouble if everyone has access to that page) and I like it.  I'll probably go in and change a few of the styles to make it fit in better yet, just like I would with any php script.  But that isn't something Mainman has done, his is the same as the default.

So, I say, he took someone else's work and just slapped his name on it again.  


Title: Re:Raven Shield Browser Server Managment!
Post by: MainMaN on January 31, 2004, 12:08:07 am
I never released the version i was working on.

I gave proper credit to all that made it, just because the SS i provided didnt have it, doesnt give you any right to start the blame game.

I was using the .ASP version.  

Reconnize the fact i gave credit.

*The whole point of this thread was letting RvS hosts a easy way to management.


Title: Re:Raven Shield Browser Server Managment!
Post by: MainMaN on January 31, 2004, 12:19:41 am
also..

The plan was, i was going to make a installer as well as well as other templates for the script. I was working on command lines for remote admin. I guess not, you act like your competing. But nothing is good enough for you. You honeslty need to start read other peoples post before posting, alot of this information was already stated. Speaking up for my self isnt worth it. Bronto was right about *DAMN Fourms

Why do you post everything thing on ur clan site? I mean, every single flame or dissussion you have gets posted. Most of it is shit, and most people know it.


Title: Re:Raven Shield Browser Server Managment!
Post by: |MP|Buccaneer on January 31, 2004, 01:10:52 am
I gave proper credit to all that made it, just because the SS i provided didnt have it, doesnt give you any right to start the blame game.

It's not a game, it's the truth.  You posted it here, like that.  In the version you posted, you had done nothing EXCEPT add your name and remove the real authors.  

Is that the very first thing you do, add your name to the credits?

I was using the .ASP version.  

The .ASP version?  Really?  The version that doesn't really work off mac hosts?  I don't know if I should just call you a liar or MoronMan.

Reconnize the fact i gave credit.

The word is "recognize", and I don't, because you didn't.  The proof of such is right above this.  You had to TAKE THEIR NAMES OUT to get what you did.  Which tells me you were shamed into putting it back AFTER we brought it up.  Even then, when I finally saw it on your computer, it wasn't correct (It was missing a name).

*The whole point of this thread was letting RvS hosts a easy way to management.

Then you really should have just pointed people to the download.  Then you really shouldn't have stuck your name on it.  If that's what the whole point was.

The plan was, i was going to make a installer as well as well as other templates for the script. I was working on command lines for remote admin.

Gee, then your name would just be on the installer, or the remote admin box, wouldn't it?  Learn your lesson, don't take credit for other people's work!

you act like your competing.

Not at all, just keeping it honest.  You'll notice that I take absolutely no credit for these scripts, I just point people to them.  You'll remember, before you were such an annoying little prick, how I helped you with your DNS and router issues.  Not for credit, but because we do help out people, and do give them respect, until they don't deserve it.  

You honeslty need to start read other peoples post before posting, alot of this information was already stated.

It's easy to state lies.  You do it all the time.

Bronto was right about *DAMN Fourms

Feel free to follow him then, if that's how you feel.  Doubt anyone will cry over it.

Why do you post everything thing on ur clan site? I mean, every single flame or dissussion you have gets posted. Most of it is shit, and most people know it.

Yeah, most people know it's shit eh?  That's why it gets so many hits I guess, because so many think it's shit.  

Just to answer you, it was posted there because this thread was locked.  And, I have a bit more freedom of expression there, as we don't mind calling a spade a spade, even if it does hurt her feelings.


Title: Re:Raven Shield Browser Server Managment!
Post by: Jeb on January 31, 2004, 02:58:05 am
mainman,
I'm a web developer, and php is almost impossible to keep closed source.
So here is what pisses me off.
You ported nothing to mac, installing the script on pc takes the exact same amount of time. Remember, porting requires conversion of some type, not adding 4words to the bottom of a script.
You put your name inside a script you didn't modify at all aside from putting the name in.
You plan to modify and redistribute a script without the original author's permission.
and bucc
i think he misspelt php when he said asp


Title: Re:Raven Shield Browser Server Managment!
Post by: |MP|Buccaneer on January 31, 2004, 03:01:33 am
I was using the .ASP version.  

Ive been working on this for several days, smurf would know. And i finally got the .dll to work with .php forum with MAC's Raven Shield Build 294.

Its in beta, so i wont release it yet since if theirs a problem i know im gona get swamped with complaints but so far everything is working.

Working on the .asp version eh?

Also, I noticed that the link to your version ended in .php as well.  Hmmm.  Yeah, you just reek of lies Mainman.


Title: Re:Raven Shield Browser Server Managment!
Post by: MainMaN on January 31, 2004, 03:44:42 am
I could point out everything i just said, and even argue with you till the end. Your only point is, the SS had my name on is as well as the hosted version. Why? I was in the processing on modding it over, as in template wise. If you want to point fingers and blame while you do it yourself go right ahead. Its just easier to call you stupid.

Since your the only true jackass i ever met, you have a problem. Talk to me you pussy.
r_mainman@softhome.net


Title: Re:Raven Shield Browser Server Managment!
Post by: |MP|Buccaneer on January 31, 2004, 06:26:23 am
Your only point is, the SS had my name on is as well as the hosted version.

Nice to see your reading skills haven't improved.  I'll try it again.
1) In the version you showed, you hadn't changed a single thing but added your name.
2) Oh, and deleted the actual authors.
3) Therefore, the very first thing you seemed to do was to delete them and take credit for it.
4) Since you went to the effort of removing them, I don't see why anyone would believe that you were intending to put them back.
5) You didn't put them back right even then.
6) You lied again by saying that was the .asp version.  Caught with your own stupid lies.  Again.
7) This is a pattern with you.
8) If you really just wanted to give something to the Mac community, you wouldn't lie and put your name on it.
9) If you think this place sucks, you should leave it, I doubt anyone would miss you.

Good enough?

I was in the processing on modding it over, as in template wise.

Oh, now it is template wise that you are modding it, eh?  First it was the php and .dll (where is there a .dll there anyway?)  Then it was .asp.  Then the installer.  Now it's a template.  

Does anyone want to bet that when I grab a copy of what he has let out so far, it has his name on it but no other changes?  Anyone?  Because I'm going to grab it and check the code out.  Just because I'm sick of his lies.

Its just easier to call you stupid.

Sure it is, since you don't have a leg to stand on.

Since your the only true jackass i ever met, you have a problem. Talk to me you pussy.

Seems like I am "talking" to you idiot.  Just because it's here, seems like you have a problem with it.


Title: Re:Raven Shield Browser Server Managment!
Post by: Jeb on January 31, 2004, 09:49:31 am
Most people who are smart enough to set up that php tool, are smart enough to integrate their own style sheet, or make changes so the tool looks fitting. There is a really limited market for this thing, obviously we use it now, but how many other clans out there have hosts with php?
So you really where just trying to get credit for another thing you didn't make...
It doesn't work mainman, we've proved this to you, and the gameranger community several times in your case.
-jeb
ps. i invented sliced bread</mainman>