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Title: What should we do with clan |MP|?
Post by: MainMaN on August 08, 2003, 02:13:25 am
I don't like to start arguments nor make a fuss about something. But when its reguarding me or my friends i have a serious issue.
As you know the CQB had some prob so i agreed to remove and fix the issues to solve the case. Then worry about adding pistols ect.. later. CQB Mod had over 150 downloads. And the league allrdy is clocking 6 teams of CQB squads. My cqb site has got'n more than expect hits. I also noticed i got'n complaints. As in the cqb mod. this time not cause of the mod or the game. It  was clan MP. After Mr. Loth directly telling me he is OK with the mod. And having *DAMN support as well. MP decided to ban all CQB Mod users. I know you have a right to do whatever you want with ur server. But who in the hell would like to join a clan that trys to bitch after the argument. MP has demonstated its not me. Its them. I appoligize if im directing my argument to the clan and no the indivual people who are responisble for this. And i wish for other clans 2 support me on this.

thank you
mainman.cts
g_b_mainman@softhome.net
http://cqb.artofwarcentral.com

|MP| Ban list http://www.tomorrowlan.com/macclans/hosted/mp/staticpages/index.php?page=20030313005947164


Title: Re:What should we do with clan |MP|?
Post by: BTs_eight on August 08, 2003, 02:16:30 am
You got my (MY = eight) support... but then again why would you care to play on the MP server?

DOWNLOAD THE CQB! HAVE FUN!

haha they banned someone for being french also... amazing....


Title: Re:What should we do with clan |MP|?
Post by: Xyphaaaa on August 08, 2003, 02:22:03 am
If you ask me, this is typical MP behavior. I have had dealings with MP in the past and everything always ended like this... Not to be rude or anything, they really all act like they think theyre better than everyone else, well the ones i've talked to anyway...

Peace,

Xypher


Title: Re:What should we do with clan |MP|?
Post by: BTs_eight on August 08, 2003, 02:26:15 am
Oi keep in mind, NOT all MPs are bad apples... just like all clans...

I STILL WUB U VOODOO!!!!
cant forget the good ol' captin willard!


Title: Re:What should we do with clan |MP|?
Post by: Xyphaaaaa on August 08, 2003, 02:29:23 am
Of course thats not what i meant at all, some are for sure better than others!


Title: Re:What should we do with clan |MP|?
Post by: *DAMN Hazard on August 08, 2003, 03:01:02 am
Grow up, you can bitch all you want but when it comes down to it:

Their server, their rules.


Title: Re:What should we do with clan |MP|?
Post by: MainMaN on August 08, 2003, 03:02:33 am
Some times it feels like all MP has grudges on my back.

execpt..vood, cringe or alaric.


Title: Re:What should we do with clan |MP|?
Post by: Fusion on August 08, 2003, 04:02:16 am
You right hazard, Their server Their rules.

But maybe ONE day this issue will be a thing of the past and all can get along.

I applaud mainman for working with me and many others to satisfy MP.

mainman I just wish you would of called it a beta when MP's guns were in there, but you didnt. You did correct the problem by removing all MP files and you gave a formal Apology to the creator of the MP mod. I say that is about all you could do. It is up to them to forgive and forget. Lets just hope they do.


Title: Re:What should we do with clan |MP|?
Post by: Ace on August 08, 2003, 04:14:25 am
Mainman, if it makes you feel any better, we had you banned long before the CQB mod came out. Call it a grudge if you like, but at the end of the day they are our servers and we can do whatever we want with them.

PS - We don't think we are better than everyone, we know it. :P


Title: Re:What should we do with clan |MP|?
Post by: Toxic::Joka on August 08, 2003, 04:16:20 am
Is this thread for real, or am I just Imagening mainman trying to start a flamewar....

Wheres the friendly warnings now?

Vood's drop one on them  ;D

Ps. Nice job making you guys look like the victims.


Title: Re:What should we do with clan |MP|?
Post by: MainMaN on August 08, 2003, 05:14:23 am
For real? well its post and online so its real =)

And flamewar i frankly dunno... Since i noticed i can argu about 2 servers that i never see any1 in or use.

Ps. Nice job making you guys look like the victims. ?? What the?

so every time i post im a victim?


Title: Re:What should we do with clan |MP|?
Post by: Brain on August 08, 2003, 05:17:17 am
i love how my good name is getting dragged through the mud by this and i have yet to ban anyone
 if you look at that page, you'll see that bucc is the one who banned for all the 'cqb mod violations' not me, so how come i get slammed for my clanmates actions? is this guilt by association or something?


Title: Re:What should we do with clan |MP|?
Post by: Toxic::Joka on August 08, 2003, 05:24:10 am
Please enlighten me mainman...what do you hope to accomplish with this thread?


Title: Re:What should we do with clan |MP|?
Post by: [OZ] Jedda on August 08, 2003, 06:31:51 am
Bitching, violence, and an all round catfight. ;)


Title: Re:What should we do with clan |MP|?
Post by: Cossack on August 08, 2003, 07:25:27 am
You know if Loth did say it is alright, then I think in my humble opinion Bucc should unban those mod users. Hell I dont think many of them are on the DAMN forums (ie BigTex). Some of them may not even know its ambiguous nature.

Also Brain, you could look at it from the BTs view and see that we baned a bunch of BTs. Wouldnt that be guilt by assosiation. Some BTs could've given a rats ass about this damn internet soap opera. Maybe it would be nice if Loth himself came in here so he could sort this kindergarten out.


Title: Re:What should we do with clan |MP|?
Post by: MainMaN on August 08, 2003, 07:39:46 am
nononon brain "I appoligize if im directing my argument to the clan and no the indivual people who are responisble for this. And i wish for" I have no idea who posted the list. Since its on the MP site im thinking its MP. Well some guy in Mp.

And ace.. i know im baned thats "reasonable" since we hate each other guts. But dont ban every1 who uses the mod. Your allrdy in the 1st clan to have the most banned on their servers. What kinda clan is that? =(

hehe actually we were joking about it all day today hows this,

"DOWNLOAD THE CQB MOD, THRILLS CHILLS AND SPILLS! + WAY MORE. WITH EVERY DOWNLOAD YOU GET A AUTOBAN FROM CLAN |MP|...SO YOU DONT HAVE TO ;)"

lol... remember this is a joke.


Title: Re:What should we do with clan |MP|?
Post by: Jeb on August 08, 2003, 08:43:57 am
hrm,
the entire list of people's ips who were banned on server#2 was deleted...
but there are a few people who will remain banned because we don't want them on our servers, but the ban list on the site hasn't been updated.

And Mr. bryan, don't forget it was you who found your way onto our shitless unprovoked, bucc was even hosting your clans site until you acted up.

and about all this hatred between MP and BTs,  i don't really care for such flaming and bullshit, i still find a few of your members as nice smart guys, but a few of you i've only dealt with when there was a problem, and its usually lead to bigger problems.


Title: Re:What should we do with clan |MP|?
Post by: |MP|Buccaneer on August 08, 2003, 09:23:55 am
What I find truly humorous here is that these guys are bitching about it now when I posted in these very forums a month ago that I would be doing this.  

You can see my name next to the people that I've banned, so don't go blaming anyone else, don't go trying to make this into anything it's not.  If you have looked at the list and you can't figure out who's responsible, then I'd say you have much bigger issues to deal with then this.

You guys pissed me off in the way it was handled, I posted as much, and, like I said, I was going to ban those people.  Guess you figured I wouldn't bother or something.  Guess you figured wrong.  

As for the people banned, there are 23 of them.  12 of those are because of this mod, the other 12, most are for being a TK'ing bastard (yes Xypher up there bitching joined the server to TK the whole team, and left), Then you have three assholes and someone that tried too many times to probe the server.  

Now, we keep a tidy house, we don't want people that come in to TK, and we don't want assholes.  That makes perfect sense to me.  

As for the people that use the mod, yeah, I will continue to ban them because that's how I feel about it.  All the bitching in the world by mainman or eight isn't going to change that a bit.


Title: Re:What should we do with clan |MP|?
Post by: BTs_eight on August 08, 2003, 10:06:21 am
Quick question....

Why did we remove the mp guns? If you were going to ban everyone anyways? Why not just put the MP guns back in and just let u be mad at EVERYONE who dls it?

Again not a flame thing just a question...


Title: Re:What should we do with clan |MP|?
Post by: Ace on August 08, 2003, 05:33:17 pm
It would not be a wise idea to put the |MP| guns back in...


Title: Re:What should we do with clan |MP|?
Post by: Supernatural Pie on August 08, 2003, 06:01:47 pm
Why not just put the MP guns back in and just let u be mad at EVERYONE who dls it?

Because it's illegal, and quite possibly worthy of a ban from somewhere.


Title: Re:What should we do with clan |MP|?
Post by: *DAMN Hazard on August 08, 2003, 06:53:18 pm
This is the dumbest thread ever. You complain that you are banned then you say that you don't use the server and don't care if you're banned. Wtf? If you really wanted to accomplish anything you should have emailed Bucc or another MP member and discussed it instead of dragging it out in the forum and making yourself look stupid.


Title: Re:What should we do with clan |MP|?
Post by: xero on August 08, 2003, 07:12:45 pm
I say use all the |MP| guns, and fuck them in the ass!  They like to be assholes and run by their own rules, well we got rules too, and #1 is: Fuck Clan |MP|
Talk about a bunch of sissy fucks that dramatize a video game WAY TOO MUCH!  Fuck them and fuck playing with them!  Let the noobs hang out with them, and see how much playing vs noobs affect their game when they go up vs the big boys.  Oh wait, they already went against the big boys 2 seasont in a row and got owned, after claiming to "look out for clan |MP|".  Look out because clan |MP| is here to dramatize the game of GhR and drag people into it.  Go be drama queens somewhere else you stupid fucks.  You aint got no copyright over modding video games, so fuck off.  All this shit is free for anybody to do, and make better, and that's all mainman did.  Was make your shitty idea, a good one.  Too bad you got mad when somebody handled a task you couldn't complete!  Talk about owned!  Hell, you own your own mod, and you and your |MP| Drama queens can play it all the time now!  Too bad your stubborn asses are too close minded to let others enhance what's already available!  Mainman, add what they claim to be the |MP| guns back in, because obviously being nice and respectful to these assholes, got you nowhere....  They like to cry, now they can cry for real and by themselves to each other!  That's the plan!  hah!


Title: Re:What should we do with clan |MP|?
Post by: alaric on August 08, 2003, 07:21:32 pm
I'd like to point out, though it should be fairly obvious to most, that the only people dramatizing anything around here are those who start threads like this.


Title: Re:What should we do with clan |MP|?
Post by: BTs_FahQ2 on August 08, 2003, 07:54:10 pm
why does this just keep going on and on.  Let it be done with and let the tensions subside.  


Title: Re:What should we do with clan |MP|?
Post by: tasty on August 08, 2003, 07:55:07 pm
Mauti should check the IP of "Xero" because that was the most rapideque post I've ever seen. No one else uses an exclamation mark at the end of EVERY SENTANCE.


Title: Re:What should we do with clan |MP|?
Post by: Typhy on August 08, 2003, 08:02:56 pm
 If there were smileys, caps, big fonts, and bold, then it'd be Rapid for sure.

I would like to check that IP, simply because if it is Rapid, I can laugh in his face - stupid newbie is dodging me = he hasn't logged on GameRagner in 3 days, all in fear of that 1v1 in GHR.


Title: Re:What should we do with clan |MP|?
Post by: Supernatural Pie on August 08, 2003, 08:13:04 pm
Rapid has an average of 5-7 smilies per post. That can't be rapid.


Title: Re:What should we do with clan |MP|?
Post by: Cossack on August 08, 2003, 08:17:17 pm
Ohh no Immm banned from |MP|'s servers OHHHH NoooooO!!!! There are all like that Mister Bill claymation charecter they are all saying Ohhhhhhhh Nooooooooo in that high voice. You guys have your own connections and your own computers you can go and have your own servers. Its not like I see you in the MP servers anyhow.


Title: Re:What should we do with clan |MP|?
Post by: MainMaN on August 08, 2003, 08:22:12 pm
Well... it pisses me off when Loth says OK with the mod then bucc banns everyone. And buc I DONT CARE ABOUT THE OTHET PEOPLE WHO are banned. I wana know why ur banning cqb users only. Think about it. Ur clan (MP) is actually quite good i realized.. They arnt bad followers just your bullshit leading. This tread was 2 prove a point. That you  (bucc) will bitch no matter what. You demostraited your age right here... right now.

Why did i post this? cause i had the idea was done. I had a undertstanding the MP didnt have a prob with this. Well fuck it bucc. I would like 2 see you ban all the 150+ mod users with their DSL and dynamic IPs.  And their different gameranger accounts.

Heres my point. Stop fucking with me. Act ur age.


Title: Re:What should we do with clan |MP|?
Post by: Jeb on August 08, 2003, 08:53:00 pm
its buccs server that people are getting banned from, he can do as he pleases with it mainman.

Thats a rapid post, because he used the phrase "talk about owned" and other things from his limited vocabulary.


Title: Re:What should we do with clan |MP|?
Post by: Supernatural Pie on August 08, 2003, 11:13:57 pm
Thats a rapid post, because he used the phrase "talk about owned" and other things from his limited vocabulary.

Jeb, you're right.

Example:

Reply # 25 on Snipes' "SGT" thread.
Rapid: "Oh man! Talk about Own3d!"


Title: Re:What should we do with clan |MP|?
Post by: Jackal.aHa! on August 09, 2003, 12:38:51 am
what do to!???


Two words:



Casual Sex


Force them to love you mainman!! Rape Jeb!!!
lmao


Title: Re:What should we do with clan |MP|?
Post by: bronto on August 09, 2003, 01:46:21 am
is it just me or has mainman only brought trouble to these forums?


Title: Re:What should we do with clan |MP|?
Post by: Brain on August 09, 2003, 01:50:26 am
no, it isn't just you

personally i wish i could just undo this whole cqb mod mess


Title: Re:What should we do with clan |MP|?
Post by: bronto on August 09, 2003, 01:55:14 am
im not involved in any of it, but im just trying to understand how something that can be resolved so simply has become a reoccurring problem on these forums. i suggest MP and Mainman just have a long talk, off of the forums, and don't settle for anything less then satisfaction on either side, because this is getting fucking rediculous.


Title: Re:What should we do with clan |MP|?
Post by: Billy Bongwater on August 09, 2003, 02:21:58 am
Why don't ya'll just fight a duel on gr like in the old days.Pistols at 10 paces has got to be better than bullshit at 10 paces.


Title: Re:What should we do with clan |MP|?
Post by: Geek USA on August 09, 2003, 02:48:13 am
i play a lot of wolfenstien on xbox live, and a lot of people there dont like the panzer (noob gun). if the server you choose to play on says no panzers, and you use it anyway, they ban you. plain and simple. hell, if i ran.. the game your talking about on my server, and i said no cbq or whatever, id ban your ass if you used it too. the server is kind enough to let you play there the first place, so follow their rules.. however much you dont like them.

this is almost as bad as fat people suing mcdonnalds..


Title: Re:What should we do with clan |MP|?
Post by: Ace on August 09, 2003, 03:09:33 am
im not involved in any of it, but im just trying to understand how something that can be resolved so simply has become a reoccurring problem on these forums. i suggest MP and Mainman just have a long talk, off of the forums, and don't settle for anything less then satisfaction on either side, because this is getting fucking rediculous.

I think I speak for the clan when I say that nobody in |MP| really cares to chat with Mainman. As long as he doesn't copy from the |MP| mod, he can do whatever he damn well pleases. He can make his own mod. he can make his own server. He can ban us from his server. That's his prerogative. Hell, he can even keep creating threads to whine about us (within the acceptable bounds of the forum). Frankly, we are all sick and tired of this crap.


Title: Re:What should we do with clan |MP|?
Post by: Brain on August 09, 2003, 04:18:32 am
Why don't ya'll just fight a duel on gr like in the old days.Pistols at 10 paces has got to be better than bullshit at 10 paces.

yes, but the difference is that most people in |MP| are much more proficient at the latter than the former


Title: Re:What should we do with clan |MP|?
Post by: maianmanakainam on August 09, 2003, 05:38:17 am
hehe 2 lazy to log in.

Ok then bucc... PM me on gameranger. Fuck the forums. U contact me, show me your not a 9 yr old.


Title: Re:What should we do with clan |MP|?
Post by: Brain on August 09, 2003, 05:46:53 am
mainman, if you are going to walk into a talk with bucc with that attitude, i guarentee that nothing will be solved
(trust me on that, i know bucc better than you do)


Title: Re:What should we do with clan |MP|?
Post by: |MP|Buccaneer on August 09, 2003, 02:47:22 pm
then bucc banns everyone. And buc I DONT CARE ABOUT THE OTHET PEOPLE WHO are banned. I wana know why ur banning cqb users only.

Posted it long ago, it's not a secret.  Go check the CQB thread.

That you  (bucc) will bitch no matter what. You demostraited your age right here... right now.

Actually, that would be you and some others doing the bitching.  I haven't brought this subject up.

I had a undertstanding the MP didnt have a prob with this.

Well, then you obviously have a huge problem understanding the many posts that went on regarding it.  

I would like 2 see you ban all the 150+ mod users with their DSL and dynamic IPs.  And their different gameranger accounts.

Not for you to worry about, is it?

Act ur age.

I've simply answered questions here, you have been the insulting prick.  And nice grammar.

As for fucking the forums, you brought it up here, you posted the link to bring others in.  Not me.  I don't see what all the fuss is about.  If you don't want to play on my server anyway, why should this bother you.  If I'm such an asshole that nobody wants to play on my server, it should be no big deal at all.  So why don't you just drop it, because your actions and words contradict each other.


Title: Re:What should we do with clan |MP|?
Post by: crypt on August 09, 2003, 05:14:05 pm
hey uhh bucc, and other mp's, i know your status on my ban, because you think i cheat and shit, and i use the mod freely, i still would like to know why my former clan,  D12 is banned from the mod when they probably have never even heard  of it, please inform me as to why they deserve to be banned from a good public server just because they've never done anything?


Title: Re:What should we do with clan |MP|?
Post by: |MP|Buccaneer on August 09, 2003, 05:26:49 pm
CrYpT, I have no problem answering you.

The people that were banned right off the get go were those that are registered to play in the CQB League using that mod.  It was an easy place to start from.  Those D12 people that were banned, were  all on the CQB league list.  

If they are not planning on using it, and take themselves off the list, I'll be more then happy to remove the ban.  I've already removed a few people that were unaware of the problem and contacted me.


Title: Re:What should we do with clan |MP|?
Post by: BTs_ST u RM[SER] on August 10, 2003, 03:17:52 am
At this point my  answer to the thread's question is:

watch them fade away as they have been (only now they will do it hosting WARZONE on servers they rarely themselves play in).  Were they ever a factor in the DAMN Battle League? (or just in the Forums pushing mods?) M?, M who?



           BTs_ST u RM


Title: Re:What should we do with clan |MP|?
Post by: |MP|Buccaneer on August 10, 2003, 04:03:28 am
STuRM, for someone that seems to not like me, my server, my clan, or the games we play, you sure seem upset about being banned.  Need a hug?  Want a cookie?  Get over it.


Title: Re:What should we do with clan |MP|?
Post by: Mr. Lothario on August 10, 2003, 07:17:45 am
     You know what my favorite part of this entire thread is?

I don't like to start arguments nor make a fuss about something.

     Man, that's comedy gold.


Title: Re:What should we do with clan |MP|?
Post by: BTs_ST u RM[SER] on August 10, 2003, 07:38:54 am
Bucc,

    I did like you and your clan and your server.  I didn't agree with everything you say and do and think--but I wouldn't ban you from servers because of this nor because you probably don't agree with everything I say, do, or think.   You banned me because I "allegedly" dissented from you (not Loth--who's mod was in question).  I was put on a CQB Ladder by eight-- I never signed up!  Then you say you banned me because I don't like the WARZONE mod you are lobbying.  I would think there would be a little room in a wargame for a disagreement or two, thats no reason to cease killing each other, is it?  I still like you and your clan and your servers, but mainly I like to play Ghost Recon on Gameranger with people--regardless of their race or creed.  Isn't that the whole idea?  You would probably get a little riled up if you were banned and didn't feel it was warranted.  Yes, its your server, but I feel I've been unjustly banned and I would enjoy being a guest in your server-home in the future.  Thank you for even considering it,


          BTs_ST u RM


Title: Re:What should we do with clan |MP|?
Post by: |MP|Buccaneer on August 10, 2003, 10:18:30 am
I was put on a CQB Ladder by eight-- I never signed up!  

The one and only reason you were banned.  But, as of right now, you are still on it, aren't you?  So, if you were put on by someone else, you still haven't taken yourself off either.

Then you say you banned me because I don't like the WARZONE mod you are lobbying.  

Nope, never said that at all.  I welcomed all opinions on warzone.  You have been a dick about it in my opinion, because you accuse us of "strong arming" all over the place, and refuse to answer me when I ask how or where?  You've also been a dick to insinuate that the team that finishes first in the League should have more say then any other team.  

But, all that aside, it's not why you are banned, and I never said it was.  

but I feel I've been unjustly banned and I would enjoy being a guest in your server-home in the future.  Thank you for even considering it,

STuRM, as I've told a few other guys that seem to have ended up on the BTs CQB Ladder without their knowledge (funny how that happened to so many people), get taken off the ladder, get rid of the mod, and I have no problem letting them back on my servers.  That goes for everybody where CQB was the reason they were banned.  


Title: Re:What should we do with clan |MP|?
Post by: BTs_ST u RM[SER] on August 10, 2003, 10:30:13 am
Bucc,

     Thank you.  It really does mean a lot to me, both in principle and in practice.  I haven't taken my name of the CQB ladder list because I honestly haven't even been to that page to even see my name on it! lol.  Seriously, if you could hit me with a link it would help me greatly in rectifying this matter (I'll navigate around the BTL site more, but so far I can't find it--its late).  Thanks again for providing a solution.  I mean it--thanks,

        BTs_ST u RM

PS- I didnt ever mean to imply that the first place finishers in the BL should have more say than others, I only wanted to express that we should have some (if not equal) say along with all the others including [MP].  


Title: Re:What should we do with clan |MP|?
Post by: |MP|Buccaneer on August 10, 2003, 11:18:09 am
Seriously, if you could hit me with a link it would help me greatly in rectifying this matter (I'll navigate around the BTL site more, but so far I can't find it--its late).  

http://www.battleteksquad.com/ladder/teams.php?teamid=106

I didnt ever mean to imply that the first place finishers in the BL should have more say than others, I only wanted to express that we should have some (if not equal) say along with all the others including [MP].  

STuRM, if you didn't mean to imply that, what does this mean?

PS--Why don't you tell everyone your actual reasons for your attempted hijack of the Damn R6 Battle League through the introduction of a 3rd party mod.  (Its funny how you think your and MP's position are untouchable gospel but that my lone differing opinion is either not valid or must be biased--I am just stating my opinions in this thread about a proposition I feel may jeopardize the Damn R6 GHOST RECON BATTLE LEAGUE)

PPS--Maybe Damn could change the Ladder mod every season to suit the desires of different non-finalist clans.  MP mod is on deck and X1 Xtreme Combat is in the hole.

Desires of different non-finalists.  That sure sounded like you think we should have less say to me.

Hijack the DAMN R6 Battle League.  That's something I've been trying to get you to explain ever since you wrote it.

I agree all that all informed opinions count, of every clan on the League.  It's why I posted my thoughts about Warzone in the first place, and asked in that post what other people thought about it.  But you and some of your clan mates turned it into an MP issue, not a warzone issue.  Why?