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Title: camping vs assualt game? wtf..camping owns
Post by: Jackal.aHa! on July 31, 2003, 06:07:15 am
*sigh*

I was already in a bad mood today...then i joined sex muffin ravens game...

Well there we were, a motley crew i must say!  Pat and I were on the same team.  No one was camping and, I was doing very good considering i have been in a slump this week, in 10 games got mostly 2 kill games and a few 1 kill..but never died without a kill first.  So Pat, who had no kills everygame, jumps all over my back and starts calling me a camper when i never camped!  Bull shit, whatever happened to "nice job"?  Even typhy told me "nice shot jackal"!

In light of this i began, with the help of my best bud foxy, to camp like a fiend just to piss him off.  And i was still getting at least a kill or causing havock..we were sexin it! So after several minutes a bitching, Foxy said "lets play campers vs"  :o :o :o :o

A REVELATION!

So we decide gold will be campers and blue will be the assualters...or those against camping.  It was some good fun i must say.  We all know the campers were winning out almost everytime or the game was aborted because they couldnt find us. As I expected would happen, they got sick of it and wanted to stop hunting us...bah...

Which brings me to a touchy topic to some...CAMPING!

I think camping is great! Foxy and I love to camp a room with skill and grace.  We have been known to lay down..SA hbs, SA jammers, a c4 each, and have spots where we can gun down anyone in a heatbeat the minute they walk in.  Yet, man find campin to be offensive and "making the game stupid"..I THINK NOT!


I noticed those that hate camping either 1.) suck at it, 2.) always get caught running into the "trap", or 3.) Just can adapt.

Everyone talks about realism, in real life do you run and gun in there without being carefull to make sure no one is sitting in a corner waiting to gun you down?  I doubt it.  All you assualters just dont wanna deal with the so called bull shit.  I know if im playing against foxy, that i always check low when im running to make sure i dont run into a c4 or something...maybe you should take the time too?

If i get killed cause of a camper, I usually dont get mad. "hey i should have been sharper" "kept an eye out" are some of the things i tell myself.  So all im saying is..if you ban camping..ban the pdw and tight reticule weapons and i wont care about the loss of my beloved camping.  But dont hate the player...dont hate the c4..hate yourself for not being carefull enough.  Hell, I've seen NH toos nades to blow me c4..then steam roll right up my ass for the kill. And he has never once complained to me about campers...

I bring this up again because it still seems to be a major issue for some. Sorry to bore you..i really dont know where this post is going..i only slept 3 hours...

campers unite!



jackal (sorry about the spelling my wubbers


Title: Heh, nice issue.
Post by: AK_Rap1d on July 31, 2003, 06:56:54 am
Some people hate camping because it drags the game on.  A lot of people have little time to play, and when they do happen to play, they don't want to play "Hide and go Seek".  Only because it drags the game on, causing those players to play less games than they would if they were playing vs non campers.  I love fast action, but have no problem slowing down to catch those campers ;)  But I know there's times when I'm on the run, and I want to play in games that don't take forever so I can be involved in more good intense action. ;)   I know there's gotta be others like me.  8)  All in all, you can only bitch about it if you're the host.  If you're the host and you don't want camping, then you can bitch.  Everybody else, can find another game or adapt to the camping going on.  Yeah it sucks, but that's why you have the freedom to join another game.  Hell, it's practice for CB's, where EVERYTHING goes! ;D


Title: Re:camping vs assualt game? wtf..camping owns
Post by: Overthrow.aHa! on July 31, 2003, 05:09:47 pm
Ah yes camp on my brother. Methinks its time for the Prof. to come back and bs some again.


Title: Re:camping vs assualt game? wtf..camping owns
Post by: (SEALs) one on July 31, 2003, 05:39:55 pm
Just earn a reputation for camping like Jeb and cunt did.  And no one will give a damn.


Title: Re:camping vs assualt game? wtf..camping owns
Post by: BTs_Mysterio on July 31, 2003, 05:43:25 pm
Poor Mysty ---->  8)           ::)  <---- Camper

I have no problem with those pesky campers, but I prefer some good rushing........most of the time...


Title: Re:camping vs assualt game? wtf..camping owns
Post by: *NADS Foxy on July 31, 2003, 08:36:08 pm
Ok, wtf, "little time to play" ? Bahness, that maybe happens once in a blu moon. Otherwise, dragging the game out b/c they have lil time to play is bs. And people can't find us because they don't have the ingenuity to find where we hide,the patience like jackal and I, or the attention span to stick with it. And most of the time we don't even use HBS jammers or w.e, just find us damnit. And be careful with an open eye.... ;D


Title: Re:camping vs assualt game? wtf..camping owns
Post by: dr.blake. on July 31, 2003, 08:44:39 pm
Everyone has camped at least once in their RS careers, and obviously everyone has been picked off once or twice by a camper. Its fun to camp, not fun to be camped. No one likes dying from a shooter which they never even saw. But i personally think theres a time and place for camping. Like if youre out numbered, or the people on the other team are better players. Its kind of noobish to do it for no reason. I also think people get BSed more when some on rushes you and luckily gets a shot to the head. In conclusion,  if its the right time to camp... as a STRATEGIC and TACTICAL way of beating an intimedating opponent, do it, if not... rush their asses and have fun humping.


Title: Assault Owns all the way!
Post by: AK_Rap1d on July 31, 2003, 09:55:07 pm
Ok, wtf, "little time to play" ? Bahness, that maybe happens once in a blu moon. Otherwise, dragging the game out b/c they have lil time to play is bs. And people can't find us because they don't have the ingenuity to find where we hide,the patience like jackal and I, or the attention span to stick with it. And most of the time we don't even use HBS jammers or w.e, just find us damnit. And be careful with an open eye.... ;D

Ok Foxy, get off your high Donkey(he couldn't afford a horse ;D )   You're not that good of a camper, and I have no problem taking you campers out.  (Today they were camping 5 deep, and I managed to get 3 of em np ;) ).  

"Little time to play" means not a lot of time to play.  There's times I personally, have logged on to play for about 20 minutes before I goto work or school or wherever, and found myself looking for nice fun fast intense action.  You won't find that in a game of campers.  Easy as that.  You also won't find much action in the 20 minutes if you join a game of campers.  What? maybe 2-4 games in that 20 minutes according to how bad the camping is?  Yeah, point proven. 8)

I personally find RS the funnest with a group of assaulters going at each other's throat.  That's good intense action. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/rambo.gif)  Everything else is just a game.


Title: Re:camping vs assualt game? wtf..camping owns
Post by: *NADS Foxy on July 31, 2003, 10:46:42 pm
lol, 3, that sure wasn't me. I remeber when I c4'd pal, and then you shot jackal, so I run down and shove my 3round burst G36k in your face against your pdw. I guess that was No Problem for me either. I like play RS in phases, just seems that I'm enjoying camping right now. Its an art, respect it. But people are having trouble doing that right, same with people respecting your "tagging". It's a two way street Rapid.

Oh yeah, P.S., I rather enjoy riding Bronto, so butt out.


Title: Re:camping vs assualt game? wtf..camping owns
Post by: spike.aHa! on July 31, 2003, 10:56:16 pm
so, rapid, wtf are you talking about? cause i seem to remember jackal and i assualting you....and then you leaving the game for no reason. perhaps because you couldnt take it? oh and also, instead of assualting us like you say you like to do, you started saying "gold, you'll never find us!"



wait, didnt we find you, and then you left the game?



hmmm.



Title: How dumb are these kids?
Post by: AK_Rap1d on August 01, 2003, 01:15:44 am
Spike, me saying "GOLD will never find us" was a trap for you to fall for, and you fell right for it.  Too bad that when your team found us, one of our newbie teamates panicked and dropped a nade and TK'ed 3 of us.  (I hate having rookie ass players in my team, and this is why!) Had you checked out the stats, you would've seen that I got TK'ed by MechSoldier. >:(  

I had time to deal with you guys, so we camped you right back.  Again, too bad about our newbie teamate  TK'ed us early on.  Then it just became boring to watch pal try and camp the rest of you, so I left.  Not as if any of you fools killed me in that game when I left.  Too bad the newbies couldn't find their own freaking spot...  But that's not anybody's fault but theirs.  Had I had a good camping team(like you guys claim you had), you wouldn't have won 1 game.  End of story.  Anytime you want to CB us, try us. ;)

Oh, and I got 3 of the 5 Campers on the game previous to that.  You and foxy were the 2 left alive out of the 5.  Duh! Of course you "seem to remember jackal and yourself assualting me".  You were the only 2 campers left! :o


Title: Re:camping vs assualt game? wtf..camping owns
Post by: Jackal.aHa! on August 01, 2003, 04:36:13 am
Bah!

Foxy is good, hes real good  ;)

I would have to agree with rapid about the noobs though, Sano..was the reason we lost 4 games today.
Foxy and I have a system of covering and such..and Sano was in the fucking way the whole time. Resulting in foxy dieng twice and me jumping in the way of a bullet to keep them both alive.

Must I stress Teamwork!

And i knew rapid and pal would be outside camping, thats were i would have gone, lol ;)

I say rapid and his choice of 3 players..cb's Me, foxy, and 2 others...to see who wins, lol


Title: Re:camping vs assualt game? wtf..camping owns
Post by: Typhy on August 01, 2003, 09:03:21 am
 
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I noticed those that hate camping either 1.) suck at it, 2.) always get caught running into the "trap", or 3.) Just can adapt.
 

4.) Simply dislike the changed gameplay that comes from playing against campers.

I speak as someone who hates campers, as well as anything else that changes the game in, what is, in my opinion, a negative way.

I hate mods, campers, glitchers, modded maps, and people who throw 6 grenades at one spot.

"Cheapness", in my opinion, is playing the game in such a way, that if all players did the same thing, the game wouldn't work.

Campers need us rushers. Your camp won't work unless there is someone trying to come get you. Therefor, it's a cheap "tactic". ( yes, there are partial exceptions to my rules of cheapness, so let's not get into "Typhy, going by that, the game wouldn't work if both peopel walked back in a dance" )

I ( yes, this is true ) haven't carried C4 as a camping weapon since AK vs *NADS, when I TKed Cow twice in a row - April, 2002, yes, C4 has uses that don't involve camping. A very effective tactic to deal with campers at Storage Depot: Set C4 at the door of the gold base, run around to the garage door, stand clear of the garage ( out of sight ), detonate the C4, while the camper(s) inside the gold base react to the explosion at the door, you rush in through the garage door and catch them off guard. That is one of the only uses that C4 has that's not camping related. I've seen this tactic, or one similar to it, used only once, by a person aside from myself. In all other instances, C4 is used as a camping weapon.

( Just my thoughts about C4, and hosts who don't restrict it ).

There has never been a great player who camps. I can take out any camper, no matter how good they might be. You just have to extra careful as you go room to room. I simply don't find such room to room tactics nearly as fun.

I honestly wouldn't know wether or not I'm a good camper. I haven't camped in over a year.

I will never understand what you people see in standing behind a couch, with a piece of C4, waiting for your oponent to open the door.  [/color]


Title: Re:camping vs assualt game? wtf..camping owns
Post by: |MP|Buccaneer on August 01, 2003, 10:41:40 am
I've seen this tactic, or one similar to it, used only once, by a person aside from myself. In all other instances, C4 is used as a camping weapon.

Tyhpy, I'll add one other to your list.  Leaving C4 and a sensor behind in your base (or other likely spot), and blowing it when you see someone on the map go in there.  Wonderful how you can trigger it from anywhere, even while attacking someone on the other side of the map.  Works with claymores in GhR even better, because if place right, you don't lose the sensor.


Title: Re:camping vs assualt game? wtf..camping owns
Post by: spike.aHa! on August 01, 2003, 04:05:58 pm
hmm jackal, i wanna be in on this cb;)


Title: Re:camping vs assualt game? wtf..camping owns
Post by: Brain on August 02, 2003, 02:16:29 am
i have to disagree with typhy on great players not camping.
i think a great player simply knows how to work a spot and move on. when to camp and wen to rush. if a stream of guys are comming though a door, i say camp the hell out of them. when the wise up. move out and assault them


Title: Re:camping vs assualt game? wtf..camping owns
Post by: Typhy on August 02, 2003, 03:00:10 am
 Brain, anyone who camps on the inside of the door, in such a situation, is going to get their sorry little ass prefired to hell. You sidestep, take out one. Move out the door prefiring, possibly get another, pull out your pistol, and start dancing. Try and catch the remaining ones in crossfire.  


Title: Re:camping vs assualt game? wtf..camping owns
Post by: Jackal.aHa! on August 02, 2003, 06:14:26 am
i have to disagree with typhy on great players not camping.
i think a great player simply knows how to work a spot and move on. when to camp and wen to rush. if a stream of guys are comming though a door, i say camp the hell out of them. when the wise up. move out and assault them

 :o :o :o :o :o :o

GIVE THIS MAN A COOKIE!!!!

Well said brian!  Even typhy knows that I have had more rush kills then camp kills. SO has foxy and others...like i said typhy, your hating the players man..hate yourself, lol ;D

You can use c4 100 ways..heres a good one i always use..kill someone..then place the c4 under his body.  Team member runs in looking for the bastard that killed his friend and BOOOOOOOM!!!..thats 2 kills for me  ;)

NO MORE FIGHTING...MAKE LOVE!

Im just trying to prove that most of us campers are just as good rushing as we are camping


Title: Re:camping vs assualt game? wtf..camping owns
Post by: Overthrow.aHa! on August 02, 2003, 07:59:34 am
Oh my god jackal I should give you a cookie and a new dildo. I love to hide c4 in bodies. Maybe its a fetish but its so fun.


Title: Re:camping vs assualt game? wtf..camping owns
Post by: Typhy on August 02, 2003, 08:50:33 am
 Great work, Jackal. Your post is long, uninformative, and makes no sence whatsoever.

My point is, and has always been, that campers detract from the overall gameplay of Rogue Spear. Also, that there is yet to be a great player who's a camper.

Ack! More soon  


Title: Re:camping vs assualt game? wtf..camping owns
Post by: BTs_Mysterio on August 02, 2003, 06:30:31 pm
Ill have to take the Typhy anti-camp side. In RS Single player the team rushes...the terrosits camp...so does that make campers terrorists and rushers sexy? I think so.

Now
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There has never been a great player who camps. I can take out any camper, no matter how good they might be. You just have to extra careful as you go room to room. I simply don't find such room to room tactics nearly as fun.

Apparently once upon his high horse Typhy has a hard time getting down. But let this not discredit his arguements. What I think he's trying to say is, any great rusher can defeat any great camper. Also that even though that is true havign to spend the whole game worrying over campers is simply fucked....(Yeah I jsut sort of took out the hgih and might typhy part).


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Well said brian!? Even typhy knows that I have had more rush kills then camp kills. SO has foxy and others...like i said typhy, your hating the players man..hate yourself, lo

Accually to be completely honest the only times I've played aginst you I've only killled by you on SnowBase when you hid in boxes with C4 on the door. And on Chalet where you sniped the gaurdhouse. Everygame where you tried to rush you died and cursed something. And I believe you said something else like "I'm having a bad day"....tisk tisk.

Just to throw in a classic myst:
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Foxy is good, hes real good

Good at what...if you catch my drift.

Where's the joy is this camping? You haven't defeated the odds, you haven't killed anyone in a hard fought battle. You could be eating a peice of yummy pizza as you press the mouse to set off your C4. What's your goal in camping? Is it to simply piss everyone else off?

P.S. Jackal, the sex is appealing, but lets fight a bit more...


Title: Re:camping vs assualt game? wtf..camping owns
Post by: kami on August 02, 2003, 09:01:51 pm
I have to say I don't give a fuck about how anyone plays, if you get pissed off it's because the camper is good, it's a strategy that seems to work since so many people do it. If someone should adapt, it's the people who get pissed off because other people are camping.

Typhy, spelling sense 'sence' makes no sense.


Title: Re:camping vs assualt game? wtf..camping owns
Post by: Jackal.aHa! on August 02, 2003, 10:14:58 pm
BAH MYST BAH!

I did have a bad day that day and I dont player with you hardly ever..but i wont defend myself..i just wanna have sex with you myst..come out of the shadows, OT just got me a new dildo ;D

These posts are turning evil...

Well said Kami, hes right you know. Camping is a tactic that is used be all..how many of you have found a spot and camped because you are too gimped to move? I think we ALL have.

Typhy, What I am saying is rushers airnt soo great...you say "any fool can camp"..any fool can rush too and get off a lucky head shot.  Which I might add is easier with a tight ret. weapon *cough* PDW *cough*, like you use..than a M4 or other high kick weapons. And i think camping hightens the game play.  I find the game more enjoyable if I have to search for my target sometimes, then just meet in the center of CSL and have a shoot out, but thats just me.

I would have to agree with the 6 nades in one spot, that does piss everyone off...its like "can i go yet?" "damn!"

Well Im off to see Chicago (the band) live, hope the next posts airnt soo rough  ;)


jackal (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/uzi.gif)


Title: Re:camping vs assualt game? wtf..camping owns
Post by: Typhy on August 02, 2003, 11:23:40 pm
 Tight reticule weapon, Jackal? Odd, it seems to me that every pistol, the uzi, and Skorpion have tighter reticules than my PDW. Hmm, also, all the SMG's seem to have the same reticule as it. Isn't that interesting - over half the guns in the game have a reticule tighter or equal to that of the PDW.

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Camping is a tactic that is used be all..how many of you have found a spot and camped because you are too gimped to move?

When I'm wounded, I go to my PCish crouch tactics. The instant I see a person, I crouch down. Never do I fall back and camp.

 
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I find the game more enjoyable if I have to search for my target sometimes, then just meet in the center of CSL and have a shoot out, but thats just me.
 

Personally, I find a firefight a lot more fun than running around aimlessly until I find someone sitting in the corner of a room, with a block of C4.

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I would have to agree with the 6 nades in one spot, that does piss everyone off...its like "can i go yet?" "damn!"

People who do this make up the second biggest group on my block list. ( Second only to Ghost Recon players, under the command god's gift to assholes, |c Splinter. )

Personally, I don't consider myself having played well in a game, unless I have 4-8 kills, and my team wins. Guys who do this *cough* Mug *cough*, get at the most 1-2 kills per game. Nading like this isn't the tactic of a great player, nor of someone who wants to improve, this is someone who's satisfied with being an asshole. [/color]


Title: Re:camping vs assualt game? wtf..camping owns
Post by: BTs_Mysterio on August 02, 2003, 11:24:15 pm
BAH MYST BAH!

I did have a bad day that day and I dont player with you hardly ever..but i wont defend myself..i just wanna have sex with you myst..come out of the shadows, OT just got me a new dildo ;D

....

Typhy, What I am saying is rushers airnt soo great...you say "any fool can camp"..any fool can rush too and get off a lucky head shot.  Which I might add is easier with a tight ret. weapon *cough* PDW *cough*, like you use..than a M4 or other high kick weapons. And i think camping hightens the game play.

...


First off, I know you do...we all do...I can't help how sexy I am. Even I love me.

Secondly classfying all rushers as PDW users is incorrect. I Use a PDW 25% of the time, a M16 a2 25%, a G3A3 25%, and a UMP 25%. The only reason I would camp is if the team was doing horribly and we needs a win...moral and all...you'd be suprised how that 1 win counteracts a 10 loss streak.

Well Im off,
That's my 2?


Title: Re:camping vs assualt game? wtf..camping owns
Post by: Jackal.aHa! on August 03, 2003, 07:03:42 am
Tight reticule weapon, Jackal? Odd, it seems to me that every pistol, the uzi, and Skorpion have tighter reticules than my PDW. Hmm, also, all the SMG's seem to have the same reticule as it. Isn't that interesting - over half the guns in the game have a reticule tighter or equal to that of the PDW.

True Typhy, but last time i checked in the time you fire 9 pistol shots, you could have emptied a whole pdw mag and be reloading. 30 to 9...hmmm...
Yes you are right, I forgot about the uzi and skorp. I do love the skorp, but as for other smgs..they have more kick.  You bullits will spread more randomly with a 10a2, than with a pdw. Thats the point i was making on the tight ret. weapon issue.  I favor the M4, i really like its power.  :)

And finally, I have seen you camp. On Chalet, in the dark corner on the left side of the guardhouse, but you must have forgot.  ;)

I admit, I dont camp as much as I used to.  While its fun, you are right that killing someone face to face in a rush is much more gratifying (sorry about the spelling) than if they dont even know you are there.  

By the by, hows the ankle?  My spleen is still messed up, I miss soccer..its killing me not to play everyday  >:( :( >:(

Myst...how do you resist yourself? I would never be able to do it :D ;)

Well, Good Arguments on both sides!
We must set up that CB, it would be fun  :)

Have a nice evening all

Jackal
 ::)


Title: Re:camping vs assualt game? wtf..camping owns
Post by: [d]-[p a t] on August 03, 2003, 09:28:45 pm
jackal... b4 you start talking shit about me... get your goddamn facts str8. 1; i own you whether you camp or not. 2; 'he had no kills the whole time' bs man. i remember owning and you saying 'save me some'... stfu


Title: Re:camping vs assualt game? wtf..camping owns
Post by: 0 Kilz:M: on August 03, 2003, 11:14:59 pm
What a useless wate of time arguing this thread...point is campers and nade tossers have NO SKILLS, period. The PDW is the best gun in RS and all of the skilled players use it...there are only three players I have ever met that can own with an assault rifle on 3 round burst, Justin Sane, Biohazard, and SK. Otherwise you gotta fight fire with fire or yer gonna end up a camper cuz you get sick of getting raped.


Title: A skillful player knows how to do it all.
Post by: AK_Rap1d on August 04, 2003, 12:31:24 am

Well, obviously you are on the losing team, with that attitude. ;D

Adaptation, is something a skillful player can handle in a very rapid matter. ;)  Nade tossing and Camping have skill involved.  If you're not a good camper, a good rusher will do away with you np.  If you're a good nader, you can toss nades with a deadly precision. 8)  All in all, it takes skill to do EVERYTHING in RS.  

The arguement really stands at: It's not as fun to play vs campers.  But it's a tactic that you gotta know how to do and deal with, like I said before, due to CB's, where EVERYTHING goes.  

A skillful player knows how to do it all.  -Rapid- (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/rambo.gif)


Title: Re:camping vs assualt game? wtf..camping owns
Post by: 0 Kilz:M: on August 04, 2003, 12:45:08 am
yes, skillful is the key word, most campers are not, and most who sit back and toss nades are not either. Adapting to lousy players is ez, it's the good ones you need to worry about ;)


Title: Re:camping vs assualt game? wtf..camping owns
Post by: Mr. Lothario on August 04, 2003, 04:53:09 am
The PDW is the best gun in RS and all of the skilled players use it...there are only three players I have ever met that can own with an assault rifle on 3 round burst, Justin Sane, Biohazard, and SK. Otherwise you gotta fight fire with fire or yer gonna end up a camper cuz you get sick of getting raped.

     I guess everybody's forgotten about my single-shot Aug. Beating a full-auto PDW with a single-shot Aug was a hobby of mine. Boo, hoo, I am forgotten. Heh.


Title: Re:camping vs assualt game? wtf..camping owns
Post by: Jackal.aHa! on August 04, 2003, 05:50:09 am
jackal... b4 you start talking shit about me... get your goddamn facts str8. 1; i own you whether you camp or not. 2; 'he had no kills the whole time' bs man. i remember owning and you saying 'save me some'... stfu

Excuse me for a second...AAAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAA!..whew ok im ready now...

*sigh*
Pat,
First off, i said the first few games..was it 10..i dont feel like checking. Second you werent owning, you died first by rushing while most of us (foxy, myself, sano) ran down stairs and got our kills in the basement.  I remember rushing up the steps and getting a pistol shot off, killing an opponate before he could throw his nade.  Thirdly, I have never once (in my 1.5 on GR and RS) every said "save some for me". Never, Im just happy to win. I dont care how many kills i get in each game,  but i do care when im doing good and someone on my team starts being a dick because he is having a rough start and then generates lies to make himself  look like a hard ass elite player *cough* PAT *caugh*...dude wtf happened to you? I used to respect you...

And finally, Yes in the PAST you've owned me. Everyone has owned someone and I have been on the tail end of owns by many fantastic players. So who cares if you PWNED ME, any more i dont think the term means as much as it used to.  SO SHUT THE FUCK UP!  But why should i bother, you will type something else glorifying yourself or that day. So type wat you want, i dont care.

Typhy and I have had it out in the forums before, but at the end of the day after all the shit has been said, I respect him as a great player and a person..but you...your just a fucking ass...

*sigh*

Good posts peeps,
It was good hearing what people thought, its a shame some have to take it too far..(now me included)..shame on me :(


Title: Re:camping vs assualt game? wtf..camping owns
Post by: Typhy on August 04, 2003, 05:56:19 am
 Just thought I'd point out that Jackal's a great guy. Don't make personal attacks towards him just beacuse you disagree with him about an issue on the forum. Talk to him on GR a bit.  


Title: Re:camping vs assualt game? wtf..camping owns
Post by: Jackal.aHa! on August 04, 2003, 06:22:31 am
Thanks Typhy, You know I say the same about you.

See, thats the respect I was talking about earlier that some just can give becuase they are too worried bou thier own ego.
Kudos to my favorite peeps on GR...I might list them...



Title: Re:camping vs assualt game? wtf..camping owns
Post by: 0 Kilz:M: on August 04, 2003, 01:16:26 pm
lol, your just now figuring out pat is an ass? He has an ego the size of Texas.


Title: Re:camping vs assualt game? wtf..camping owns
Post by: Toxic::Joka on August 04, 2003, 01:32:29 pm
I was too lazy to read the whole thread, so this might be pointed out allready

Basic line is that camping makes any game boring....yes boring as in no fun.

If you wanna log on and win at all costs, instead of having fun playing...hey it's your life, do what you want. Must be nice going to bed thinking "yay i sat in a corner for 5min doing nothing and then shot a guy".

Most of us play to have fun, i just done see the fun in sitting somewhere for the duration of the whole game.

Sad to see that some one would promote camping  :(


Title: Re:camping vs assualt game? wtf..camping owns
Post by: BTs_ST u RM[SER] on August 04, 2003, 04:53:00 pm
If you RS people love camping, why do you call Ghost Recon a "camping"  game (which it isn't--campers aren't appreciated much)?  Also, if you think camping is ok and you think GhR is for campers, why do you say you don't like GhR because of the camping?  Contradictory, no?


            BTs_ST u RM[SER] ::)


Title: Re:camping vs assualt game? wtf..camping owns
Post by: blade on August 04, 2003, 08:19:59 pm
camping in RS is like 3-4 minutes long max.

camping in GhR is 10-20 minutes long on the average (stats out of CB's)

nobody's promoting camping, other than jackal.  its obvious he has trouble getting kills in RS, so he resorted to camping, and has been getting off on it, since he's finally able to get kills. :D   Camping is stupid and in most RS games, campers are simply booted.  GhR has the big problem, since all the maps are so g'damn big, impossible to find a camper, or be encouraged to run around, and get picked off by a camper.  That's what makes GhR so much worse for camping.  The game more or less promotes it.   it's a war style game, where people simply don't rush the other side.  They strategically cover an area and each other.  In RS, it's a SWAT style game, where rush assaults are encouraged, due to the fact SWAT teams, indeed rush in and take out terrorists(campers :D )

RS is not for campers, so when people camp in the game, it makes the game THAT dumb

GhR is for campers, but when people camp, it drags the game on and on and on and on...  (like those 3-5 hour CB's I heard about)


Title: Re:camping vs assualt game? wtf..camping owns
Post by: Typhy on August 04, 2003, 08:46:49 pm
 Blade, camping in RS is 5-10 seconds. Camping in GHR is 2-3 minutes.

You GHR players claim your game isn't camper based: Bullshit. I consider a camper anyone who stands still for more than 3 seconds, or someone who remainds in the same are ( 5-10 feet ) for more than 10 seconds. Docks is the only non camper map in the whole game.

Btw, well said, Joka.


Title: Re:camping vs assualt game? wtf..camping owns
Post by: BTs_ST u RM[SER] on August 04, 2003, 11:52:48 pm
How can you generalize about GhR like that?  You must have only played with lame campers.  The best GhR players and clans don't camp.  I never camp in Ghost Recon and neither does BTs--it's the weak-ass players who lay down and hide at spawn.  I rush every map--it doesn't matter  how large or small or how many campers are hidng at heir spawn.  The funny thing is, the worst GhR campers are the RS guys who say that GhR is such a camping game.  They talk shit about how GhR is all camping, then when they play, they refuse to move from spawn or even stand up.  If the maps are so big like you RS guys say, why don't you move an inch?  Didnt anyone tell you that the soldiers in GhR have legs?

           BTs_ST u RM[SER] ::)


Title: Camping in 1 room with 3 of ur buddies FOREVER is plain fucking stupid
Post by: AK_Rap1d on August 05, 2003, 12:07:58 am
ok sturm.  I was going to not comment on it, but I don't like you generalizing "us RS'ers".  

I play GhR, and I certainly don't "spawn camp and lay down scared".  I'm the motherfucker that hunts you down np and takes your life away.

It only became dumb when I played early on vs players like |MP|Jeb, who likes to lay down with his snipe and pick rushers off.  That's when I saw what type of BS this game was gonna involve. (Dont start getting all offended neither jeb.  you were the one choosing to lay down and pick my team off.  That or he wanted to make sure he didn't get 0wn3d by me, and save the embarrasment ;D )

Sure the game is fun when everybody's not camping, but that's the thing.  It's a game that encourages camping like blade said.  I agree that RS is a faster paced game than GhR, and with much reason.  The maps are not as big as GhR, meaning more action faster, and you can't lay down in RS. :o  

If you want to talk about "RS'ers", be specific, but do not generalize us with others.  It's like saying since Snipey is an RS'er, he represents how we all play.  NOT!

Anyways, this thread was a hope for the hopeless campers to be accepted so they can get kills in games and not get called cheap n00bs.  Too bad it didn't work you cheap fucks!  We still hate your n00b asses! ::)


Title: Re:camping vs assualt game? wtf..camping owns
Post by: BTs_ST u RM[SER] on August 05, 2003, 12:21:01 am
RGR THAT!


          BTs_ST u RM[SER] ::)


PS--I only generalized to quid pro quo the GhR generalizations that were being bandied about.  I also didn't want to embarrass the campers in question by posting their names, but the list is growing lol)


Title: Re:camping vs assualt game? wtf..camping owns
Post by: Mr. Lothario on August 05, 2003, 06:50:14 am
     I don't think I've ever seen Jeb set up camp unless he was badly gimped. You're probably thinking of me, Rapid. I know I've sniped you a number of times with ease, 'cause you have no skill at stealth and little sense of strategy. You just rush in straight ahead like you're the Flash or something, then bitch when you get double-tapped.


Title: Loth, don't be so full of yourself (shit)
Post by: AK_Rap1d on August 05, 2003, 10:05:15 am
lmao, in your wet dreams Loth.

You're thinking of Rabid, but definately not me.  I own at GhR, and have proven it many times.  Only thing, my machine can't handle it that well, so I get real bad lag when I join big games.  And no Loth, you have not shot me the way you fantasize. (http://community.the-underdogs.org/smiley/happy/yelrotflmao.gif)  And no, it was not you I was thinking of, it was Jeb.  I remember because I called him out on it, and he had no good answer for his bs(as usual).  Yet here you are trying to get credit for something you never done!  Hah! ;D  Trust me, you're no threat to me or any other |?K|'s.  Nice work you BS'er.  Must be clan code to be a good bs'er. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/ass.gif) (like faking things)

Loth---------->(http://community.the-underdogs.org/smiley/armed/hammerhead.gif)<----------Rapid

Also, pretty funny how you say I have no skill at being stealthy and have no strategy.  Must be how I won the 1st *DAMN BL I entered with my clan huh :o  Tonite, I was in mUg's game, and he wouldn't put 2 |?K|'s in the same team, in fear of getting owned by our stealthy strategy and skill.   He straight up said it was not fair to put both |?K|'s together. (Me and MPE)  Recognized by everybody except big headed nerds like you that like to talk out their ass.  Gj burnt toast.


Title: Re:camping vs assualt game? wtf..camping owns
Post by: Typhy on August 05, 2003, 10:14:17 am
 Once I get done laughing, I'll respond.

Rapid, I've seen you play GHR, most of us have. It's sad. You're a below average Ghost Recon player. I have no problem with your talking about your Rogue Spear skills. But seriously, you suck at GHR. There are no skills to brag about.  


Title: Re:camping vs assualt game? wtf..camping owns
Post by: Mr. Lothario on August 05, 2003, 10:14:18 am
     I've never seen you play more than one game in a row of GhR, Rapid. You always leave after one game of getting raped. It must bring back bad memories of your dad. You were a high average at RS. At GhR, you're average on a good day.

     Obviously you've edited the memories to suit you better, but I kicked your ass many a time in RS, as well. It's funny that you brought RS up, because I wasn't talking about it, but hey, I'll go along with it. I remember many times when you trash-talked and fronted like you had some sort of godlike ability to play RS, then I'd personally kill you in one-on-one confrontations six, seven, eight games in a row. Finally you'd kill me, and you'd start gloating like your trash-talk was all true, never mind the last eight games where you lost to me, or the next eight where you lost to me again. As adorable and endearing as your schizophrenia and selective amnesia is, I tire of it.


Title: Re:camping vs assualt game? wtf..camping owns
Post by: kami on August 05, 2003, 10:31:40 am
You guys are like 'I don't camp because it sucks and people who do camp get raped by guys like myself'. SO WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU COMPLAINING ABOUT IT, DUMBASSES. I thought you were angry at campers because they killed you in 'unfair' ways but obviously not. God, all of you are a bunch of pussies it seems. I know how annoying it is to be killed by a 'camper' or sniper, but hell, it sure is fun  if you're on the right side of the scope.


Title: Re:camping vs assualt game? wtf..camping owns
Post by: Typhy on August 05, 2003, 10:36:04 am
 Rapid, I've really dad about enough of your useless, ill informed AK propaganda.

You're quite possibly the biggest practitioner of bullshit I've ever met. Yes, you're a good RS player. Not great, but good. Stay on the ground that you can hold. Don't try and lie your way through an argument. I see you play GHR at most once a month. I've watched you play. You're a below average player.

Stick with the shit you can back up. Don't let your schizophrenia make you look like a complete idiot.

For those of you who play Ghost Recon, a couple things about Rapid that might further explain:

The world was short on hypocrites - god sent us Rapid. He lectured me for 5 minutes about how he can't trust me beacuse I always lie, and went on and on about how he'd never tell a lie - the next day, he posted as "PostNoBills", then claimed he wasn't the imposter even after Mauti verified our theories that it was him.

To Rapid, AK's are the best at everything. Take a look at the "best aim" thread. "AKs = Best Aims", I believe his post reads. I've picked up 6 kills in games with Rapid, his post-game comment "bah". One of his teamates kills two, his post-game comment "Great work, very nice".

I'd love to keep posting in this topic, Rapid, but with your schizophrenia, I feel that only a well trained psyciatrist could possibly help you.

 


Title: Re:camping vs assualt game? wtf..camping owns
Post by: AK_Rap1d on August 05, 2003, 08:11:42 pm
Loth, keep telling yourself that, maybe you'll feel better bout yourself.  (Reality was the other way around.  I don't need to boast or brag about killing your stupid ass, or anybody else.  Hell, I go in games all the time and play for the hell of it.  I don't play to be judged on my every game.  Especially since half the time, I'm talking to my friends on the phone, or watching TV.  A game is a game.  You want to have war, we'll set a week of war where we keep score on every match we play each other.  Other than that, I don't want to hear your bullshit lies about you owning me.  Is that your attempt at feeling better bout yourself Loth?  lmao  And in GhR, I do not leave after 1 game.  Hell, you don't even see me in games, since you're always stuck in the StuckUp MP Servers, where you only allow n00bs to play so you can actually do good and feel good.  Hah!  Nice public server there.  Eliminate all competition, and simply leave the n00bs to pick off.  Great work you pussy fuck excuse of a clan whore.

And Typhy, if anything, you're the one that's tried to misinform the public with your childish point of views.  Yeah, childish by the bullshit you fabricate.  You've watched me play GhR what, a handful of times in your life and you think you can pass judgement?  You're just a loud mouth forum whore.  Stfu typhy.  Not only do you not know shit, you definately don't know me as well as you think you do.  

The world did sent us Jealous Jackasses, and one of them was Typhy.  Why do you care to argue crap you know nothing about?  All in hope to feel as if you're better than me?  You're a fucking kid that lies more than you know!  Hell, I've caught you in so many lies while you were an |?K|, and here you are, same shit, different day.  Typhy, you don't know shit about me, so don't dare open that eskimo bigmouth spilling out nonsense with my name on it no more.  

Only a good psychologist can do away with your ego Typhy.  You think you know it all, but you get owned on a regular on everything you claim you know.  That's how the lies bite you in the ass so much. :o

Typhy, and trust me, you don't deserve no love from me after you do good in a game, so don't expect me to say anything to you.  Hell, I'd never seen you do good since you were in |?K|! :o


Title: Re:camping vs assualt game? wtf..camping owns
Post by: Typhy on August 05, 2003, 09:01:07 pm
|?K|*R?p?d*: hey, wtf is your problem on the forums
|?K|*R?p?d*: get off my back fool
?cE ??Typhy.-a2- ~ b?: My problem is that you're full of shit.
|?K|*R?p?d*: you're full of shit
|?K|*R?p?d*: you dont know shit about me fool
?cE ??Typhy.-a2- ~ b?: "I oWN at GhR!"
|?K|*R?p?d*: dont talk about me about things you know NOTHING about
|?K|*R?p?d*: wtf you want me to say , that i dont
|?K|*R?p?d*: i play and do good
?cE ??Typhy.-a2- ~ b?: Hmm? Ok. How about a 1v1 at GHR, right now. Docks, 1v1.
|?K|*R?p?d*: wtf is your problem
|?K|*R?p?d*: sure idiot
?cE ??Typhy.-a2- ~ b?: Ok
|?K|*R?p?d*: as if that matters
?cE ??Typhy.-a2- ~ b?: Let me grab my CD
|?K|*R?p?d*: yeah, the one you broke
|?K|*R?p?d*: fucking lying piece of shit
|?K|*R?p?d*: dont talk about me
|?K|*R?p?d*: you have no need
|?K|*R?p?d*: yet you feel you do
|?K|*R?p?d*: wtf does it matter to you what i say about my game of ghr idiot?
?cE ??Typhy.-a2- ~ b?: Becausee you're lying.
|?K|*R?p?d*: you're a rs whore that dont know shit anyways about ghr, so fuck off with your stupid ass posts
?cE ??Typhy.-a2- ~ b?: And treating Loth like shit - Loth is my friend.
|?K|*R?p?d*: lying? lmao
|?K|*R?p?d*: fuck off
|?K|*R?p?d*: dumbfuck
|?K|*R?p?d*: fuck you and fuck loth
|?K|*R?p?d*: lil eskimo faggot
|?K|*R?p?d*: always gotta be a bigmouth
?cE ??Typhy.-a2- ~ b?: My GHR game
|?K|*R?p?d*: too bad you get owned at all your bullshit lil kid
?cE ??Typhy.-a2- ~ b?: Contrary to what you might think, that insult has no effect on me. Nor does it on anyone frmo here.
?cE ??Typhy.-a2- ~ b?: Now join up
|?K|*R?p?d*: you're still a bigmouth faggot
|?K|*R?p?d*: what's it gonna prove after i own you?
|?K|*R?p?d*: tell me right now
?cE ??Typhy.-a2- ~ b?: If you beat me, I'll get off your back.
|?K|*R?p?d*: ok, and no more BS out of the peanut gallery you're sitting at
|?K|*R?p?d*: fool
?cE ??Typhy.-a2- ~ b?: Pardon me?
|?K|*R?p?d*: always gotta be a big mouth...
|?K|*R?p?d*: you and your forum whore posts
?cE ??Typhy.-a2- ~ b?: Join up.
|?K|*R?p?d*: why the fuck do you start so much shit
?cE ??Typhy.-a2- ~ b?: I didn't start that
|?K|*R?p?d*: you joined in
?cE ??Typhy.-a2- ~ b?: I joined in.
|?K|*R?p?d*: as if somebdody said your nmame
|?K|*R?p?d*: dont talk shit about me
|?K|*R?p?d*: ever
ACE Typhy.-a2-: Blah blah, join up, and we'll see.
|?K|*R?p?d*: you're jealousy is overcoming you
ACE Typhy.-a2-: Jealousy of what?
|?K|*R?p?d*: why, as soon as i own you, you'll start new bs
ACE Typhy.-a2-: Uh huh. Join up.
|?K|*R?p?d*: you're a lil whiner
ACE Typhy.-a2-: Join up.
|?K|*R?p?d*: and a lil bigmouth
ACE Typhy.-a2-: Join up.
|?K|*R?p?d*: so wtf is it gonna prove if I own yah
ACE Typhy.-a2-: I'll get off your back if you can beat me.
ACE Typhy.-a2-: Now join up.
|?K|*R?p?d*: you'll shut off your machine, or claim some bs, so wtf should i waste my time on you
ACE Typhy.-a2-: Join up.
|?K|*R?p?d*: wanna play, join a regular game and see who does better
ACE Typhy.-a2-: No.
|?K|*R?p?d*: that'll prove my point, you lil faggot
|?K|*R?p?d*: I own at regular games, getting my kills as i need to
ACE Typhy.-a2-: Hmm, what's your high game?
|?K|*R?p?d*: 18 kills on respawn
ACE Typhy.-a2-: Hehe
ACE Typhy.-a2-: 49 kills, 3 deaths.
|?K|*R?p?d*: hah
|?K|*R?p?d*: sounds good
|?K|*R?p?d*: anyways, dont talk shit bout me kid
ACE Typhy.-a2-: Why don't you come back up what you said?
|?K|*R?p?d*: you dont know shit bout me
ACE Typhy.-a2-: Come back up your claims.
|?K|*R?p?d*: you will bullshit
|?K|*R?p?d*: i know your stupidass
|?K|*R?p?d*: "oh, rapid blah blah blah bs'ed me
ACE Typhy.-a2-: Join up
ACE Typhy.-a2-: Aparently you can only talk the talk, but not walk the walk.
|?K|*R?p?d*: just stfu and dont talk about me.  I dont have time right now for some stupid ass 1v1.  I work you lil freeloading shithead
|?K|*R?p?d*: so i cant play 100% concentrating during the day
|?K|*R?p?d*: tonite, i'll shut you up
|?K|*R?p?d*: in mean time, stfu
ACE Typhy.-a2-: Lol
|?K|*R?p?d*: you talk about me, as if you're my mother,
ACE Typhy.-a2-: Someone's afraid.
|?K|*R?p?d*: you're just a mother fucker
|?K|*R?p?d*: afraid?  lol!  called work.. You'll learn when you stop freeloading
|?K|*R?p?d*: anyways
|?K|*R?p?d*: stfu and tonite you die faggot
ACE Typhy.-a2-: Uh huh
ACE Typhy.-a2-: You contridict everything you say.
|?K|*R?p?d*: uh huh, you're gay, so stfu
|?K|*R?p?d*: not at all, i cant concentrate during the day
|?K|*R?p?d*: and it'll be dumb to 1v1 when i have people calling and talking to me

Little convorsation with Rapid.

Take a look at this part of it: ?cE ??Typhy.-a2- ~ b?: Hmm? Ok. How about a 1v1 at GHR, right now. Docks, 1v1.
|?K|*R?p?d*: wtf is your problem
|?K|*R?p?d*: sure idiot

First Rapid agreees to the 1v1. Then, when he realizes that I'm not joking, and that I'll really 1v1 him, he backs down.

He then claims that he has to much work to do, and that he can't play. Exactly one minute later: Playing: Rogue Spear: Urban Ops.

Hmm, isn't that interesting?


Title: Typhy needs to STFU with all his BS.
Post by: AK_Rap1d on August 05, 2003, 09:25:46 pm
hahahaha Typhy.  I knew you'd post the chat!  

Now when I log on tonite after work, you'll have NO excuse to back down.  

Thx for helping me own you.  ;D

btw, Typhy's right now practicing hard in GhR to try and beat me at Docks.  Hahahaha, better practice a lot! (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/ass.gif)

and yeah, I played 3 games of RS b4 I went off to work.  Too bad it's not as Typhy likes to portray it.  Dumb Drama Queer Typhy!  Eskimo bitch!

and 1v1'ing isn't going to prove anything.  If I beat you, others will say you're a n00b at GhR anyways.  And if you win, it's not going to prove anything on my performance on regular GhR games where I'm far from an average player.  

Anyways, label me a shitty GhR player.  See if I give a fuck anyways!

I just don't like lil Typhy being such a loud mouth bitch that has to start shit for no reason, other than his jealousy.  Man, get some counseling for that huge ego of yours...


Title: Re:camping vs assualt game? wtf..camping owns
Post by: Mr. Lothario on August 05, 2003, 11:01:08 pm
     Hahaha. Typhy's gonna kick your ass, Rapid. You're an idiot for not knowing your own limits. I can't wait to see how you talk your way out of fighting tonight.


Title: Re:camping vs assualt game? wtf..camping owns
Post by: Jackal.aHa! on August 06, 2003, 01:14:10 am
LMAO!!!

Rapid you have the sickest faces man...lol...they crack me up, ahahahha.

..anyhoo...


Really, while Typhy/rapid convo is funny...typhys conclusion is pure specualation...however very funny.  Point Typhy! SCORE!!!! *crowd cheers, jackal rubs his gooch and licks his lips* yummmmy...

I dont think a 1v1 would settle anything. Typhy and Rapid have had bad blood since i've been on GR (more than 1.5 years).  If anything, the "cb" will just make one gloat and the other royaly pissed off...CAN I GET AN AMEN!?!?


Title: Re:camping vs assualt game? wtf..camping owns
Post by: Typhy on August 06, 2003, 08:59:08 am
 Hmm, 'tis now midnight, Rapid's time.

Last Login: Tue, Aug 5, 2003, 942 AM

Last logout: Tue, Aug 5, 2003, 11:09

I guess you managed to find a way to get out of it - just don't show up.

Figures.

 


Title: Re:camping vs assualt game? wtf..camping owns
Post by: spike.aHa! on August 07, 2003, 03:59:09 am
i amused how this thread is now a flame war.

jackal is a great guy, i can second that

and rapid, how much time do you put into those smilies? seriously man, maybe if you stopped spending time on them, maybe, just maybe you could beat typhy.....but only maybe


Title: Re:camping vs assualt game? wtf..camping owns
Post by: Jackal.aHa! on August 07, 2003, 05:34:50 am
spike you slut  ;D ;D ;D

Those faces are the shit...man i was playing mario cart 64 today...that rainbow map..if i was on crack it would have scared the shit out of me


Title: Re:camping vs assualt game? wtf..camping owns
Post by: BTs_eight on August 08, 2003, 10:09:36 am
How is it you guys like camping and then have the nerve to say GHR is a campers game? Yet hate GhR?

And how come alot (not all) of the RS peeps who convert camp in ghr? Then say its a campers game?

How come we kill all campers? Yet somehow this is a campers game...


Makes no sense i tell ya ;P


Title: Re:camping vs assualt game? wtf..camping owns
Post by: *NADS Foxy on August 08, 2003, 05:31:57 pm
Wow, I get back from a small vacation, and this thread has 3 pages. Jesus, I just woke up, and I'm laughing my head off at Rapid and the flamage. Now I just forgot what I was going to say....... Maybe post before I leave again tomorrow you slunt bags. ;D


Title: Re:camping vs assualt game? wtf..camping owns
Post by: Mr. Lothario on August 08, 2003, 09:39:51 pm
     Holy shit, it's Rapid. Aggressively owned!!!1!1!!! (http://www.somethingpositive.net/sp08052003.html)


Title: Re:camping vs assualt game? wtf..camping owns
Post by: kami on August 08, 2003, 11:40:26 pm
Haha Loth, that's a nice one. Which reminds me of a cold one... *watches sbemail39*