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How about the fucking fact that it won't fucking download even after I fucking payed for it? It fucking gives me a "access refused" message, the fucking piece of fucking shit.

Now that the god damn thing is out know one can download it lol

I am glad i have the beta to play with.

Ross, upload it to someone maybe?

I still only have the beta. It maybe the last build but its not the final.

  :D WOOOHOO!!!  I got AA.  The begining of training was pretty easy, but once I got to the online part of it, I felt like the ultimate noob of noobs  :( .   Well just like any other game I guess, gotta play till ya get better, or the wife starts yellin  ;).  The hardest part for me was not knowing the maps and distinguishing the enemy from my team.  Well, I'd like to hear how you guys did/do.

Where can I download it? How big is it and what Mac do I need? Thx for answering

 About 350Megs compressed, around 850 uncompressed.

It requires a 700 Mhz G4, 256 RAM, 1GB Space, 32MB graphics card or better. Rage 128s are not supported.

It recommends: 1.25GHZ G4 or better, 512 RAM, 1GB space, 64MB graphics card or better.

I just played it on my laptop a bunch ( 1GHZ Powerbook G4, 1GB RAM, 64MB ATI Radeon 9000 ), and the framerates were fine. There were places where they could've been better, however, they were highly playable, about 40 FPS in problem situations.

We have a bit torrent set up, at the moment, that's the best way to download it. I got speeds ranging from 10 to 240kb/sec. Probably an average of about 90kb/sec.

After the torrent is dead, if it's not on any reliable internet sites, I'll upload copies.  

The official free mirrors are already going up, so you don't need to worry about bit torrent if you haven't already.

If you find a bug, I'd suggest not posting here, but on the actual AA Mac Support Forum.

Oh, and it does run on a G3 iBook too, so it's not just G4's.  As long as it's a new iBook with the better video cards.

Sry but wtf is a torrent? ;D (im swiss, dunno the word) and where do you upload copies? i want to start downloading now...isnt there any site?

greetz

http://www.filefront.com/r.b/page__file_info/_clear__page,filepath/_filepath__/pub2/Americas_Army_Operations/Official_Files/armyops-mac-170.tar.tar

There you go. To slow? Sign on GR within 20 minutes, and I'll upload to you.

works fine on a 466mhz G4 with a Geforce3 graphics card and 768megs ram. It runs better than UT2k3 actually.
Interesting game, but i run into a few issues with the slow mouse settings (is this forced perhaps?).

Anyhow, its a cool game and the training gives a good feel of what actual army training is like, except you can't beat the fat kid with a sock stuffed with soap for fun... :(

I have run into a problem in figuring out what to do after i pass the standard non-online-server settings. (proper game design should lead a drunk person to their goal, rather than piss them off or make them read something in a small font size, thus leading me to stop playing and post this message in a RS board, tisk tisk bad design).

But aside from that this game looks much like everything GHR tries to be, but can't make up for in "realism". Ther interfaces has a few weird things to it (mainly the slowness of my mouse which angers me), and i haven't tried to configure it for my nostramo speedpad.

After an hour of playing i'm hopeful, but my socks haven't been knocked off...
Ghost Recon remains a game that i can just jump right in and play, but America's Army looks sexy and requires a bit of attention to pass the levels.
(combine the lvls in ds with ghr is what this game is feeling like)
maybe i'll have better luck with,this game tomorrow, asuming that i don't have a headache or sleep untill the late afternoon.

What pisses me off about this game incredibly much....

The rifle range training, you have to get 36 hits out of 20 standing and 20 liying down, sounds easy right....just point and shoot.

NO, its a f***n nightmare i tried it tens of times, put my aim exactly at the middle, wait alittle b4 i shoot and gently press the mouse...miss

This would be ok, if this rifle training wouldnt control wether or not you get sniper rifle in the rest of game. This frustrates me beyond words, I mean its not like those who acctually get the 36 are expert marksmen....Their computer just happened to randomly select 36 hits for them...

And there something weird about the game....hard to explain, but it feels like a plastic toy compared to GhR...

"Good morning soldier, welcome to another day of qualification" x30 = insane

Over and out.

sniper rifle is shit anyway

     If the rifleman training were skill-based and fucking hard (like it is in real life), that would be different. No less annoying, but different. But it's incredibly hard and luck-based. Wheee. Considering that I have, by far, the worst luck of anyone I've ever met (die rolls almost always go against me, coin tosses, card drawing, etc. The rules of probability warp around me to insure that I get the dirty end of the stick), having the ability to snipe be based roughly 80% on luck is rather infuriating.

     Not to mention that the lack of zoom is driving me FUCKING NUTS. I can't fucking see the enemy. If I do see them, I can't identify them because the uniforms all look the same when I'm looking at a ten-pixel-tall blob (do the snow unis have to be no more different than RS's Arctic I and Arctic II?). My eyes are killing me from straining at my screen trying to see people. Of course, nobody else seems to have this problem, as bullets and grenades regularly come out of fog onto my head, or I'll see a one-pixel-wide muzzle flash and take three rounds in the face. I played ten rounds before seeing an enemy, and when I did see one, I died instantaneously.

     Hopefully it's just a skill thing, but from the strain on my eyes from one night of playing, I suspect I'll be trying to teach my seeing-eye dog to play before I get good enough to see people.

you guys will get use to it, i thought it was frustrating but the hardest part is learning the maps.  This game doesnt hand you everything like us MACies are use to, we gotta work a little bit once you get there it tastes good.

It's all about the realism.  Most soldiers don't have scopes on their rifles, or grenade launchers.  And it's not easy to tell friend from foe at a distance.

It's also not luck based when shooting with the iron sights (but when not using them, it does not shoot exactly where you think when shooting from the hip.)  Aim for the bottom of the targets, not the head (and not the heart).  I also found, especially with the sniper rifles, that I was more accurate firing on the inhale, not on the pause.  It was more predictable to me.

The biggest problem I faced was that the PC players all know the maps well, and throw the blind nades to kill the noobs (like me) because they know where you are going.  I hope we can get some mac servers set up soon, to ease us into it a little.

Just got done talking to like three people.  One more thing you have to remember.  It is supposed to be fuck hard to hit expert.  This is about realism, and in the real world, most people can't.  Not every soldier gets to be a sniper, just because they want to.  

Downloaded it from FileFront or something like that.  Tried twice, keep getting "End of File Error" once I go to unstuff it.  WTF am I doing wrong, or is it the file?
I'll be right there with ya CS as soon as I can get this F**king thing going!

Bucc....its luck, nothing but luck.

If i place the aim exactly on the middle like you said and still not hit....thats cause im not made to be a sniper..? No, its bad f***n luck.

Its a useless part in the game, eventually everyone that really wants  the sniper-rifle will get it...even me  ;D ;D

 My only question: What does "Failed Authorization" mean? I've gotten this message everytime I try to join a multiplayer server ( yes, I've complted basic, and I'm trying to join an MP server for the next part of training ), it only worked once, early this morning.  

Help....I wanna get it going :(  End of File=? ???

Typhy

Theres a thing called "honor level" in AA, everyone starts out with 10. Most official servers have 10 as a limit, so you cant join them if its below that. but there are servers with a higher limit.

You can raise your honor level by simply playing and not TKing.
(some one told me on the servers that you add 2 zeros after your current honor level and that how much you need to raise it, this might not be true though)

This might be a reason why you cant join some servers.. .

 My honor is at 9 - could that be from shooting the sergant in basic training?

However, the message that I'm getting says something along the lines of: Failed Authorization The Authorization Server May Be Down, Please Try Again Later. . .

Ok, I don't even have the game operational yet, but this raises a question:  If your honor level drops to 9, how do you raise it back up again?

Me going into basic training:  :)

Me taking a few shots:  :D

Me failing a couple times:  :(

Me wanting to take out my anger on my drill instructor:  >:(

My self control takes over, and my sniper ability steps in:  8)

My drill instructor's amazement that i'm a better shooter than he is:  :o

Me becoming an expert marksman, and passing the M24 and M82 tests:  ::)


Guys, work at it... took me about 6 tries to get expert.. but it'll come.

Also, the M24 and M82 tests are 10 times easier than the M16 test, plus they're a lot more fun.

Just keep playing the Mount Mc kenna site on a official army server, it will come...trust me i know  ;) ;D

Ps. it HAS to be a official server, the others dont record your game progress. Leased official servers might work too...

Well, I downloaded it yesterday and its really funny. I didnt have any problems with shooting the targets in training. then i joined a server with 26 people in it:

1. I couldnt choose the weapon i wanted, just support...

2. I couldnt see who is the enemy and who not

3. It got really laggy...

4. I stopped playing

5. It was BS

anybody his opinion to this?

Ps. Can I change graphics or just the monitor resolution?

Click advanced to change the graphics settings.

i poked around  a bit, and i found some ways to pull a 15-20fps increase (makes it playible on my 466mhz G4)
i'll post a article on it on the mp website tomorrow when i get a chance. (there are a ton of hidden options for turning the graphic settings down, plus killing some audio channels).
www.mp.macclans.com

i played this game last year on my buddys pc and i got hooked really fast...and this was shortly before ghr came to mac (or at least to mine). granted, the training session can be a bitch (especially getting 36/40 on the range and the para jump), but once you start getting into the missions its fun as hell. there are a lot of features that you would love in ghr (like taking weapons from dead people) and its a lot more realistic, imo.

You can choose a weapon, but if somone with a higher honor level chooses the same one, he will have the priority (the sniper rifles usually go quickly). If some of you are having difficulty with the sniping range or the para jump (or anything else for that matter) there is an online tutorial somewhere that explains exactly what you have to do, which isnt always as straight forward as it could be. For the sniper school for example, you have to aim a little to the top left of the target to get a hit. I hope my login for the pc version still works so i dont have to go through all that shit again. anyway, ill be back with my mac somtime in august, so until then you guys should practice so you can avoid the humiliation of getting owned by abe the way you do at ghost recon.

Question to those of you who are runnig it:
What version of OSX are you running?

10.2.6

Tested it on 10.2.6 and 10.3 (Developers Release).  Worked fine on both.

Well there ya go.  i knew it! :o  I am running 10.1 ;D  10.2 is Jaguar right?  Is it worth getting?  I know panther is coming out, but lets say a friend of mine would sell me his copy, would it be worth getting?   ;D

Typhy im getting the same message: Failed Authorization The server may be down or somethin like that.......Its not cause of the honor system because i tryed to join a Mckennly server and that wont work either....AA is comin out great.....NOT.

I can't find my own honor level. Where do you see it? ???

Too bad I cannot play America's Army, my iMacDV 400mhz would burn a fuse if I even tried, and don't forget about that 8mb ATI video card!  To possibly answer your questions regarding the "Failed Authorization" I just read in the America's Army manual about how you have to "Authorize" your username, so that no one else will be able to use it.  Not sure though if that will help, I just skimmed through the manual.  Maybe post your problem in their Support Forum over at americasarmy.com.

Cheers,
(http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/beer.gif)
?Ne?

P.S Maybe post your usernames here also, so other Mac players will recognize you.

everyone should just put ".mac" after their name. I did. I'm just Snipe.mac.

I'm having the Failed Authorization thing happen right now.. can't join any games.
But i'm still trying to figure out where you see your own honor.

if you ever manage to join a game, it's the number in front of your name when you hit f1

 Rebel, I'm starting to think that perhaps the message isn't bullshit. Yesterday afternoon, I was able to join any server ( I finally got my honor back up ). Now, today, same message. Perhaps the server really is down?

On a side note, I'd like to say that the release of AA was perhaps the worst planned out release in gaming history. The only place it was avalible was at the official site, where you'd have to pay for the download. After a couple minutes, the download link no longer worked. Many of us ended up using the bit torrent later in the day.  

I was able to get into a game, and the first thing I heard was a lot of people complaining that the server's were down, and they were asking how long it would take them to fix it. (these are guys that have honor levels around 30, so I don't think honor is the problem)

Anyway, hopefully their working, i'm gonna go try now. Bye.

There seems to be a bug in the mac version that you will get the "Not able to Authorises" warning. This is a bug and a patch is begin worked on.

It should work if you just keep trying but it has something to do with longer loading times in the mac version and it then takes longer for the authorisation data to get throw and by the time it dose the authorisation server has already timed you out.

and WHY wasn't this discovered before, mr. beta tester?

Never happened to me in the beta, and I never heard of it happening to anyone else.  

I was finaly able to post this...
And if you are the proud owner of a old computer and want to run america's army, its worth a read, or if your a FPS slut and you want even more framerates. I went from 8-15fps to 25-40 :D
http://www.tomorrowlan.com/macclans/hosted/mp/article.php?story=20030720035700465

I qualified for sniper after several frustrating sharpshooter 35s.  I was so pissed, I never thot that it would let me get expert.  Then I missed 4 early on during satnding and had to shoot 13 or fourteen in a row to get it.  I'm glad I don't have to do that again, (Then I passed sniper school hehe- how funny--but i cant pass the second half of the airborne--I keep breakin my legs)

               BTs_ST u RM
                           ::)

 An exellent idea for anyone willing to sacrifice graphics for framerates.  

     Something occurred to me tonight. After noticing that good AA players seem to have no trouble seeing enemies in what, to me, is undifferentiated darkness, I started to wonder if maybe it wasn't merely a difference in skill. After checking the screenshots in the americasarmy.com Media section (http://americasarmy.com/operations/media.php), I'm pretty sure of it. The Mac version of AA is hopelessly dark--at least for me (GeForce2 MX). I cannot modify the brightness setting in the options (it always resets to 1) and changing the gamma doesn't help (washed-out undifferentiated darkness is no more helpful).

     I think this accounts for the NVGs that make the game darker, as well as explaining why hiding in the shadows never keeps me safe--they're only shadows to me.

     I'd like to hear if anybody with a good video card is playing a game that looks like the one in the screenshots, or if we're all stumbling around in the dark like idiots.

     BTW, to pass the live drop test in Jump School, you've got to flare your parachute (hold the action button) to slow your fall. If you flare too early, your parachute will collapse. Start flaring at around two to three body lengths above the ground. It also helps if your view is pointed opposite your direction of travel, although I usually find that to be unnecessary.

Loth,

     try changing your brightness value in the ArmyOps.ini file in Library/Apllication Support/Army Operations/System file to 170 or 180 and the gama value to 1.75.  Do a before and after on HQ mission map on both assault (with NV and without) and defensew (no NV provided)-- big difference eh?
 

                            BTs_ST u RM (17 honor and climbing fast lol) ::)

Loth---

CORRECTION--TRY setting BRIGHTNESS at 0.6

and

GAMMA at 1.8

      i was doing it from memory--its late/early,

            BTs_ST u RM ::)

     I read the first message, went and tried it, then came back to post that it didn't work and saw your correction. Heh. The 0.6 and 1.8 settings work beautifully. I'm going to do a test now. 1.8 gamma is outside the range that you can set with the slider, but when I touched the gamma slider, the screen darkened. I suspect that it's possible to set the gamma to 1.8 as long as you don't subsequently try to set it via the slider.

     UPDATE: Yeah, it looks as though gamma settings higher than 1.5 are possible. I noticed a difference between the look of the game with the 1.48 that the game was at after I touched the slider and the 1.8 that it was set at via the .ini file just now.

Whoa, looks like I missed all of the action while I was gone.  Nothing like downloading a 300MB file at 34Kbps on a Sunday. :\

ok, so I figure mb I should give this game a shot. I spend the time dling it, settin all my controls etc..then I go to the create soldier and once my browser opens it tells me ...You don't have permission to access /ops/agp_signup.php on this server....wtf is this all about? So I copy paste the url into Safari, Netscape, and i.e..and get this message every time. great game...bah

Any ideas on how to fix this or should i just trash it and forget about it?

     That's weird. Sounds like the web site itself was having trouble. Try again later. ::shrug::

Yea, so now when I even try to type in americasarmy.com I get that same message...oh well, I'll see how it does after work.(http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/wallbash.gif)

I can't find my Army Operations in the Application Support folder. Where is it!?

...And thirty seconds later...

I didn't realize you had to go through users first.

Ahh...

Me = OSX 'Tard

MMmmmm snipe...... insteresting

anywhooop i have this problem, were ill choose a team, and then ill wait (4eV3r) and then when the next round comes up ill have to choose again and wait, and so on and so forth.... wtf is going on?

also, ill be playing the game (multi), and occasionally i will disconnected, and it will have that loading screen ( the one you get when you are trying to join a game) and i will have no text or info, or anything. does this mean i got kicked? and i saw no vote go up for this happens, nor do i do anything wrong (except be a noob... ;) ) can any one help me.

i noticed also that the tweak for the brightness works nice, but made my game more unstable than it alread is.....

I had that repeated select team thing happen to me once, but only once. Meh.

Well, time to add my two cents.  OK.  I got a dual 867 DDR with 640 megs of RAM and a 32meg g-force card.  I am getting about 11-17 fps within the game.  terrible, but on a lighter note a way to counteract the crappy fps is to get a better mouse.  I have just got a dual laser mouse and can now accurately shoot people.  It's quite sweet actually.  
     Another part of the game is that the server will just shut down all the sudden and close the game without any type of notice.  To counteract this problem i have found that you must restart you're comp.  For some reason it does not kick ya from the game once ya do that.  
     The next upgrade I will have to do is get a better graphics card.  Obviously the better card you have the better the game runs, so upgrading cards will be the next obvious step.  Other then that the handling of the guns is quite realistic.  The ony thing missing is the feel of the weapon and the weight heh.  Good game but hopefully they can come out with an update and get rid of some of these small bugs.
     Oh and to help those trying to qualify if they didnt know.  to skip the demo shoots all ya have to do is step backwards out fo the firing range and it will put ya into qualification mode.  So you guys dont have to waste you're time blowing off rounds that will undoubetly take concentration away from the real scenario at hand, which is to qualify expert.

+MOD+Saberian

My one big problem with AA, is that it doesn't run on my slow G4 350mhz/OS9 :(

Maybe they can make it OS9 compatible? (if it's not too much to ask ;D )

 The other problem, is that you have half the reccommended processor. You also have an ATI Rage 128 ( unsupported ).

AA uses the Ureal 2 Graphics Engine, which will not work in OS9, therefor, there is no hope of AA for OS9. Realistically, if your computer didn't ship with OSX, you most likely won't be able to run AA anyway.

i have a problem, i wish to stay in one game, and rack up points, so i can gain more honnor, but it seems that i can't stay in any one game for then a couple of rounds, because i get disconnected (not kicked) randomly.... i have no idea how to fix this.... and it seems at this rate, under these conditions, i will never get better numbers wise....

I got a g4 dual 500's and i got a 8mb video card. Everything is rainbow when o try to play and like laggy. I turned down all the video settings to worst and I still can't really play. Ally subjestions besides getting a new computer or a graffics card?

recently i beat the marksmen thingy and got a high enough score to be a sniper (WOOT!!), so i went to the school, and passed the M-24 school and moved on to the M82 school. i had to leave, so i quit the game. When i can back it says that my advanced marksmen ship school is not available, but my m-24 one is labeld complete, and i can play that one, but i can't get back into my m-82 school, cuz it is labeled "not available" what do i do??



also i  can;t log into the AA.com forum i won't reconize me or my email address....
so i can't ask for help from them, so if any one who can could post my problem on their board, that would be great, thnx

You sure you scored Expert Marksman and not just sharpshooter? (Though i would assume that if you can get m24, you can get m82) Hmm. did you enter the results in your jacket? Did you login? I dunno. That's weird.

I think someone posted the solution in there. Good luck

http://www.americasarmy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?topic=73540&forum=39&13

Snipe who was your last post addressed to?

thnx snipe

one Question, are GR only games possible with AA.
Or will all games hosted on a mac and GR be avaible in the Server List of AA?

I'm actually not really sure if macs will be able to host at all, but Evill has said that he plans on at least having a server list in GameRanger. (something along those lines)

Unfortunately, I don't know about GameRanger-only games.

5150, your AA looks like a rainbow and it's laggy because you don't meet the system req's, or have a supported video card. So basically there is nothing you can really do other than buy a new graphics card, update your processor, and probably more ram. ;)

But don't worry, it's not that great anyway. ;D