Title: BTs - +MOD+ 2round issue Post by: Fusion on July 01, 2003, 01:56:17 am This what we have to deal with?
We did statics host first.. No lag for any of us and everyone had great pings 3 - 4. They complained about lag, so we tried there suggestion(host) MP Buc(2nd Host). And we had lag and so did there guys. Before we went to Buccs host they told us to have static do a dedicated host, so we did and it went like this. Description: Finals CB MOD vs. BTs << BTs_SignTist joined the room >> << BTs_static joined the room >> << +MOD+Skillz.Cpt joined the room >> << elite joined the room >> << elite left the room >> << BTs_eight joined the room >> BTs_Fusion\\: tell your boys they have 5 mins .. if they not in here then no go BTs_Fusion\\: thats final +MOD+Skillz.Cpt: lol +MOD+Skillz.Cpt: u guys wont play our server BTs_SignTist: not in ?????? england! BTs_Fusion\\: we tried your suggestion :MP server BTs_static: i lgged all over the ??????? place BTs_Fusion\\: and it was a no go BTs_Fusion\\: so we back to us +MOD+Skillz.Cpt: dude if i didnt lag in mp server then u shouldnt have BTs_static: 26 siad he did BTs_eight: i lagged BTs_Fusion\\: u didnt a freaking support giun last round u tard +MOD+Skillz.Cpt: u wont even try bfgs BTs_Fusion\\: no BTs_SignTist: you weren't being an ahole gy shooting a support weapon! BTs_Fusion\\: we tried your option now its our turn +MOD+Skillz.Cpt: i have to test it BTs_SignTist: whatever BTs_SignTist: that's ???? BTs_Fusion\\: whatever dude BTs_Fusion\\: 3 mins BTs_SignTist: and you ?????? know it BTs_SignTist: test support? +MOD+Skillz.Cpt: im guess mauti was right u guys are winnie bitchs << +MOD+Skillz.Cpt left the room >> Then we tried Statics Dedicated(3rd host) and they said there was lag again. Heres some SS's http://www.battleteksquad.com/images/statics_first_host.jpg http://www.battleteksquad.com/images/statics_dedicated_host_1.jpg http://www.battleteksquad.com/images/statics_dedicated_host_2.jpg It seems that they dont want us to host. Even with a dedicated host. Whatever, this is soo much crap, I cant believe u guys . Title: Re:Finals season 4: challenge thread! Post by: BFG on July 01, 2003, 02:46:32 am Erm. I take it from the current events that when BT's agree to a date and a time for a cb that they don't actually mean it?
And next time MOD is accussed of not letting our guys cb... well why was it when BT's had to suddenly run off that they did not substitute? I would arguee (as buccaneer pointed out) that that is somewhat hypicritical. So next time we agree to a cb... i'll expect you to refuse any server that is not BTs server... and then bitch and complain should on of our guys get lag in it (even though there were green bars for a few seconds yes). Title: Re:Finals season 4: challenge thread! Post by: BTs_eight on July 01, 2003, 03:01:08 am My problem lies... with the agreeing to do our host.. ok no problem everyone in high spirits.. cool... then Skillz takes the support gun an leaves it on... on each lagtest at the docks... YEAH NO FUCKIN SHIT ITS GOING TO FUCKIN LAG!
ITS BULLSHIT! We play all lagtest and i asked skillz to not use a support gun... but instead he goes off on the MP server and you know what? I LAGGED SO DID 26 RALEE! So we get a dedicated server... and we followed behind each one of the mod guys to see if they jump... or warp or lag in any way... some how in lagtest they ended up shooting me in a 1v1 confrontation, yet they lag? 2 hours later.... no lag test had been agreed to.... Yet you wanna say we forfiet? The way i see it... last game we had with MoD was on that cb where lone did the accidental glitch at the door... Both parties agreed that there was lag during that moment... and i have to say a bunch of those games on BFG's was laggy... Our team being all USA then will play on BFG's host being UK? does that make sense? Our west coast guys on a UK server? Now when i asked Skillz to not do the support gun he then told me that he uses support guns in cbs... and then proceeded to do the lagtest with the gun blaring all the way... Yeah man JUST LIKE IN A CB. I just think that with full green bars for EVERYONE to just lag out the server by bringing some BS support gun was stupid an uncalled for. All week long uffyz hosting 14 people with multiple respawns at time... and mod guys in and out.. then here comes skillz an his support gun... Little advise.. you want the other team to agree to a lagtest LEAVE THE FUCKIN SUPPORT GUN HOME BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW YOU DONT PLAY WITH ONE! WE KNOW BECAUSE YOU HAVE BEEN PLAYING ON UFFY'S SERVER ALL WEEK LONG SKILLZ AND NOT ONCE DID U GO SUPPORT! again, BS Title: Re:Finals season 4: challenge thread! Post by: BFG on July 01, 2003, 03:09:12 am Did we say you forfiet? What is annoying is that we agree to a date and time, we both have the guys online and waiting.. then fusion hads to leave and so say you... but you refuse to Substitute guys in... funny i remember you bitching to a clan about doing that - and that wasn't regarding a fixed date and time cb.. that was just generally not doing cb's without a couple of members.
Woah try posting facts to start with. SKillz did not take the Support gun for every test. Not at all. Ralee did not lag on MP server. He has told us and you apprently he did not. that is not correct. All of MOD was happy with MP server Eight we have done 2 cb's in the past where i hosted a 3v3 or 4v4. At the time of lag tests I was told by you that it was a great host. Yet you refused to even try it thiseveing. the reason the gun was blaring was becasue skillz lagged out.. and it froze (liek the fixed machine guns do somtimes) Title: Re:Finals season 4: challenge thread! Post by: BTs_eight on July 01, 2003, 03:11:21 am And how many cbs did MOD do without BFG and Sab?
ZERO K point prooven. and ralee did lag on the MP server yet now all of a sudden he is ok with it? BS Who hosted the last game BFG? You did right? Lemme guess you want to host all 3 games correct? Title: Re:Finals season 4: challenge thread! Post by: BFG on July 01, 2003, 03:18:57 am Oh yeah of course sorry forgot about the accidental glitch. I wonder what BT's would have said should it have been DFA who had glitched on POW camp.
Was their one cb when we set a date and time and then backed out cos we didn't get to use our server? Errr no i don't think so One set of rules and behaviour for BT's. Different Rules and behaviour for everyone else. We wouldnt have set this time and date up if niether myself or sab were available. Title: Re:Finals season 4: challenge thread! Post by: Saberian 3000 on July 01, 2003, 03:23:55 am Hmm, funny how eight says that Ralee said all this shit because I am talking to Ralee now and the only ones that he lagged in were both BTs servers which are actually the same host. Hmm, strange on why he would lagg in both. Since Static and Uffz have the same host. In either way, we tried to get a non-biased server that fusion himself agreed to from yesterday to go with. Then they have a problem. Strange how it's T1 and they have a problem with it. None of our guys had an issue with the MP server but we were amazed that all these Bts guys had this issue with the MP server. the only issue was with the m-60 and Skillz who was fucking around with that. I was ready to do another one on the fact that it wasnt a fair test and you guys just said fuck it and left. You guys could have at least done the 3rd test. And no, u didnt do 3 tests cause bucc was also watching the game and even he says that you guys only did 2 tests. So u guys refused a server that hosts at least 20-30 people regularly online. Hmm, strange how Fusion supposively had to go oout, yet he is online now writing all these posts. Figures. Either way, this is a total waste of time. Fusion, yesterday I told you that we were gonna get |MP| to host the games for us and you agreed. And now we asked to finish the cb and you guys refused. I am sorry but you are wasting our time man. Now because of all of this we want a neutral server, and since you have refused to play us today, this might bring other issues on down the road.
It was unprofessional of you guys bringing this conversation into the main room, and it was unprofessional for you guys to start talking major trash in the games. I did reply a little, only because u were ripping on me in the game and out in the room. I defended myself, but planned on never starting a flame war about it, but it looks like Eight already started one. Hmm, strange. I could post that up here, but will only do so if you guys deny it. Anyway, thanks for wasting our time in this. And if there were issues about the time then you guys should have never agreed to it. Mind u BFG played against c| on his b-day until 7AM in the morning. If you agree to the time, the only one that can be responsible for you not playing is you guys. Title: Re:Finals season 4: challenge thread! Post by: +MOD+26ralee on July 01, 2003, 03:26:36 am well ralee speaks for himself here now.........in the mp server i typed i paused for 3 secs, but i didn't lagg i paused well because i was dying!!!!!!!!i never typed anything else about lagging so lay off me
And i assure you we don't want to host all 3 CBs we just wanna play on a damn server that does nt lag is that to much to ask i mean really guys do you intend on hosting all 3 cause we tried 2 Bts servers and only 1 independent you wouldnt try BFGs nor did you give VooDoo's server a chance........seems slanted in BTS favor maybe it just me Title: Re:Finals season 4: challenge thread! Post by: BTs_eight on July 01, 2003, 03:37:50 am Yes very strange i supposed that fusion is at my computer writing all these posts?
Yes I AM HERE. But i am leaving.. if we didnt have this BS from the start and started at 6pm EST all of us would be cbing... but instead 8 pm i had to say no BECAUSE SOME OF US HAVE LIVES, and there is no way were gonna let a guy lag up all servers an wste our time and then have us be all happy and ok with whatever u guys decide... DONT LAG SERVERS AT LAGTEST ! Title: Re:Finals season 4: challenge thread! Post by: +MOD+26ralee on July 01, 2003, 03:44:49 am Eight we all have lives it just happens to be we had alotted time for a cb
you know they can last quite a while and we just happened to be prepared for this to take a while MAUTI PLEASE MOVE THIS THREAD SOMEWHERE thats not bogging down the challenge thread Title: Re:Finals season 4: challenge thread! Post by: BTs_eight on July 01, 2003, 03:50:33 am Yes i know they take a long time especially with you guys...
And im not about to start a cb at 8 pm 2 hours after the time we agreed just to be cbing untill 1 am at night... We decided on 6pm for a reason... Not so one of your guys blatenly lag the host... again an again... Title: Re:Finals season 4: challenge thread! Post by: +MOD+26ralee on July 01, 2003, 04:02:13 am well BAH thats all no more just BAH
i'm tired off BTs blah blah blah all the time Title: Re:Finals season 4: challenge thread! Post by: Saberian 3000 on July 01, 2003, 04:35:14 am Well, we would have played the cb if you guys would have played the neutral server as agreed upon between me and fusion. But you insisted on playing this server that two of ure guys were online using. Uffz and Static have the same server, hmm, interesting. Either way I did lag and so did Ralee. Plus on top of that the challenging clan is the one that is allowed to pick the server for the game. Check rule #5 in BL rules man. Fusion and I agreed to play this on the |MP| server and you guys wouldnt give the T1 connection a shot. +MOD+ challenged BTs to the cb on this thread, and fusion agreed to it. Later Fusion and I finally talked and I told him we were gonna use the |MP| server and he agreed. So as far as I can see, this dodging is done by you guys. It is up to ure clan to give the alotted amount of time to play and or finish the game. We all knew when the time was and if you had a problem you should have posted it on here instead of bitching about it the day of the Final's game. We ask for a neutral server for our games cause obviously BTs refuses to play fair, and that's all we want. Win or lose, all we want is a fair game, if BTs cant supply that, and we cant then a neutral server should be used. This is getting old, and it seems that Eight is stalling. Again, if he wasnt prepared to gove a few hours to the cb then he wasnt prepared for a cb, which means since he didnt post it on the challenge thread that he is dodging playing us, which is bullshit cause we gave the time, and now we are stuck into putting more wasted time into playing a clan that dosent even want a fair game in the first place. I am not saying that they arent a good clan, I am just saying that they are playing the time game, which my team does not have. Again, we agreed to this and now they backed out. Actually it was only Fusion that had to leave understandably, but again he shouldnt have agreed to the date if he couldnt commit to it. And when we asked for a replacement or a 3 vs 3 they outright refused, so here we are. Agt was gracious enought to host the neutral game, thinking that they would agree cause it was more neutral for them but again BTs backed out of it. A BTs member set up the game with AGt and BTs backed out of the game for the 2nd time. Remember again rule #5 Eight: The challenging clan can choose to start hosting or not. Hmm, we choose the host man because again we challenged you to the cb.
+MOD+saberian Title: Re:Finals season 4: challenge thread! Post by: Saberian 3000 on July 01, 2003, 04:41:21 am Oh and to the fact of how many cb's did we do without both BFg and sab? Well, there were many cb's that we did without myself. as a matter of fact the one with [EUR] was only BFG and Sturm. Man you guys posted this post about playing larger games, about how you have every member of you're team play for ure team, yet when it comes to subbing fusion for another player, you refuse. Hmm, sounds like bullshit to me. As for us refusing ure server, we did cause we experienced lagg on it. Plus it seems odd that you would lagg on a T1 server that is closer to most of you're guys then it is mine and we had np. Sounds like more whining eight. plz stop, it's getting old. and plz stop lying saying our members had lag with the |MP| srver when that was not the case.
Title: Re:Finals season 4: challenge thread! Post by: BTs_eight on July 01, 2003, 04:50:06 am No it had everything to do with all members LEAVING.
And next time.. you would like to use a neutreal host? DONT LAG THE HOST. We played the 3 lagtests all 3 were lagged by skillz an his support gun on full blast. then u come to our host and then lag us... It's amazing how you didnt play in the 2v2... My guess is that EUR didn't have a 3rd member. I was prepared for a 4 hour cb starting at 6 pm... thats 10 pm finsh time... Not start at 830pm and finish at 3 am... Your games take so fucking long... That is the reason we did not start it at 8pm... Yes we will play you tomorrow... Just leave the support gun or the 14 yr old home.. if your going to come with that BS. Title: Re:Finals season 4: challenge thread! Post by: Saberian 3000 on July 01, 2003, 05:12:10 am Again, Eight, another lie. Whatever, you didnt finish all 3 games. Even Buccaneer who was hosting the game with his T1 server only saw 2 games played, so sit and spin on you're lie there. Again, fusion agreed to the |MP| server. And as for not playing, well, the simple fact is that there is a total of 6 cb's that I did not play in. Not that it really matters much because yes, i do like to play. How many of the 50 did you not participate in? Yeah, i thought so. I'll bet my percentage is much higher then your's is. anyway, I am done with this crap. Bts eight is again full of crap and I am sick of repeating myself about this scenario. Watch, he'll even need to post the last word about this because he cannot shut up with his lies. I've had it with you trying to make our clan look bad Eight. I tried many times to be kewl with you but you're ass of a mouth always seems to open up and spill some bullshit out of it. It's just wrong and I am tired of playing this crap game with you that really has nothing to do with Ghr. We dont play ghost recon to talk shit with you Eight. I am just sick of this. You have seriously wasted our time with this bullshit of you'rs
Title: Re:Finals season 4: challenge thread! Post by: BTs_eight on July 01, 2003, 05:26:40 am Dude... i missed 2 cbs out of 57...
As for making your clan look bad... I didn't do a thing... You did it to yourself. Title: Re:BTs - +MOD+ 2round issue Post by: *DAMN Mauti on July 01, 2003, 10:49:13 am May turning off Netfone would also help to reduce lag. And to use a support gun is nothing forbidden! All in all he would be an easy aim if he plays with it in the regular cb games.
Just get your cbs done! Bye, Mauti Title: Re:BTs - +MOD+ 2round issue Post by: BTs_eight on July 01, 2003, 02:09:01 pm Mauti it is understood that you can use any gun you like... i'm not saying that... what i am saying is why use a support gun at full blast during lagtest... 8 people with 1 guy using a support gun at the docks WILL LAG ANY SERVER.
Title: Re:BTs - +MOD+ 2round issue Post by: TRIBE_Horda on July 01, 2003, 04:24:30 pm try to play on Vodoo's server
good server and no fishy things Title: Re:BTs - +MOD+ 2round issue Post by: BFG on July 01, 2003, 04:45:22 pm Thats what we wanted to do Horda.. Voodoo even came and set it up for us and we were all in the room ready to go.... Untill BT's decided otherwise
Title: Re:BTs - +MOD+ 2round issue Post by: PLOPje on July 01, 2003, 04:48:04 pm lagtest is to test if it lags if you use a support gun and it lags thenit lags and its not good, simple isnt
you can say nobody shoot or move otherwise it will lag. If the guy uses a support gun in the cb and not in the lagtest it would have been laggy and no fun. Title: Re:BTs - +MOD+ 2round issue Post by: BFG on July 01, 2003, 04:59:50 pm Funny you should say that.... We were asked not to shoot by BT's in the Lag tests..
Or rather asked to play as we would in a CB.... So thats aproximatly 6 or 8 gun shots then? Not what i remember having BT's do to my server when I hosted lag tests before our cb's a while ago... Bts were being very very keen on the OLCW/GL ... A bit of carpet bombing Of course just like a cb ;) Title: Re:BTs - +MOD+ 2round issue Post by: BTs_eight on July 01, 2003, 05:31:14 pm It's not that we ask that you don't shoot we ask that your don't shoot like a retard. I don't think i have ever been in a cb where someone brings a support gun an runs around with the gun shooting non-stop...
Even more i have never been in a cb where someone asks us to lagtest on the server they pick and then continues to lag that server out. It's a waste of our time... and as you can see 2 hours later... We weren't to happy with this waste of time. And as for carpet bombing? Your kidding right? If i were to carpet bomb your server BFG it would lag... And since we have played on your server before, chances are that we have never tried lagging it. You got us confused with someone else who don't want to play. And if we all wanted to lag your servers BFG don't you think we would all bring a support gun or all bring a G/L? It's alot easier to lag a server with 3 or 4 guys carpet bombing then just 1 guy... It's also alot laggier if you got 1 retard with a support gun. non stop shooting. You see... The people with the slower computers will lag more IF 1. Support gun shoots NON STOP 2. Carpet bombing of the G/L and this would have to be more then 1 person since six nades won't lag you unless they land really close. (or a small map) 3. Multiple Respawns All I am saying is get a clue. Maybe when we try out voodoo's server instead of being dumb an lagging out the server, maybe you should play like you do in CBs. Title: Re:BTs - +MOD+ 2round issue Post by: Fusion on July 01, 2003, 06:37:34 pm Ok im back now..
Wow Sab, I agreed to try and play on MP's server, i Didint agree to play it. Accually I staid I didnt want to play it after my guys lagged and so did yours. You know what after 2 hours ( 30 mins of Bucc setting up his server, which is np because we are very greatful fo Bucc to let us use his Computer to play) and alot of Lagtest where skillz is shooting non stop with a Support gun. On one of the MP server lagtests BFG stated that Skillz lagged out because he was shooting the support gun. The point yesterday was you guys were being very unreasonable and I believe people can see it. I am trying to be nice to you guys but that was alittle ridiculous. Skillz kept saying that He uses a Support Gun in the game, which in untrue. I believe that shows the intent of what MoD was doing yesterday. All of that was totally uncalled for. Now today VooDoo (Yet another great person like Bucc) is going to let us try and use his host. Lets try and be fair today MoD. And plz tell your guys to leave the support guns at home. Let have a good time, like the game was meant for. P.S. I really hope SKillz was blowing smoke out his butt with this quote: "+MOD+Skillz.Cpt: im guess mauti was right u guys are winnie bitchs" Cause if hes not, then I guess we are not welcome on Mauti's Battle League. Title: Re:BTs - +MOD+ 2round issue Post by: Toxic::Joka on July 01, 2003, 11:21:27 pm He's refering to eight's thread "large cb's"
I belive your familiar with it fusion. ;) And yes, you guys acted alittle...well....you know. (this is not to start a new flame war)....just keeping ya posted :) Title: Re:BTs - +MOD+ 2round issue Post by: Fusion on July 02, 2003, 12:03:08 am Thank your for your input Joka, but they know what the issue is and why we didnt play. ;D
P.S. Thank you BFG for putting yesterday where is goes. I had some fun games with you today. I hope the rest of our guys can do the same. Good Luck tonight. We will find a host. Title: Re:BTs - +MOD+ 2round issue Post by: BFG on July 02, 2003, 01:21:25 am Hey. Yep me to Fusion. ditto. Good fun games earlier ;0) we must play catch together again sometime
Title: Re:BTs - +MOD+ 2round issue Post by: TRIBE_Horda on July 03, 2003, 02:45:30 am this guy fusion is a true diplomat :)
wish u'll lead Bts soon or later only good stuffs could be out with you ( i hope) fresh public image ! Title: Re:BTs - +MOD+ 2round issue Post by: Killa_Absalon on July 03, 2003, 09:57:52 am Holy Macarony! I just read a lil of this thread...but its fucking funny!
You GhR guys care so much about lag? Man, i played cb's with 200 ping in RS and it lagged like shit, but we had to deal with it... just kill Title: Re:BTs - +MOD+ 2round issue Post by: 0 Kilz:M: on July 03, 2003, 01:00:17 pm yea, seems like if it doesnt run perfect bts runs away...lmao, you'd never survive rs my friend, learn to play with lag or forever be dead.
Title: Re:BTs - +MOD+ 2round issue Post by: +MOD+ Sivak on July 03, 2003, 02:42:04 pm Well we do care about lag, specially during CB's. Wouldnt it be much better to play in the best conditions. When your in a 6 player CB and 2 of them lag on the other team, dont you think its a bit unfair.
But this is a discution that cant be held somewere else because this post is kinda completed. Next note, I wanted to give a big thanks to Fusion for his understanding and just willing to work together in the finals that has been hard on all of us. Personally we should keep these things on the ground and the flame wars should not be started because of a stupid remark. Good luck Bts for the the last round. Keep smiling |