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Has anyone evver played ghost Recon? (Im not an idiot it just for pc for now)
i thought i was a realy good Game some things are a little different but its got nice levels and stuff. When choosing your guns though you have to have a certain Kinds of guys with diff guns like support Exp. Sniper, Demolition, and assult (not sure if there is more)

P.S. Plz Dont Com in and start Calling me things I know its for Pc!!!! But I also know MACS are Better

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well...Ghost is a good game. And that is one reason i will have a mac on the right side of my desk, and a pc on the right.

i have a mac on the left and a pc on the right but i use the mac way more :) :)

Ghostrecon? Haha. All I've seen are screenshots.

-Beefy, sick @ home.

Yeah, I played it for a couple hours on a friend's laptop that he brought over.. pretty good.. didn't get to try out the MP, tho..

The tangos were just as impossibly accurate as in R6 and RS, tho.. never had a chance once they see you.

Anyways, Casper, the only thing Macs are good for is graphics design and all that good stuff.. PCs are better for everything else. They are faster, cheaper and there is a lot more apps out there for them :)

TEH LIEZ!!

Maybe but i think(MACS) they run way smoother!!!! but the Pc or MAc  is realy an appionated question i dont like Pc cause all the ones i get turn in to peice of craps after about 6 months and run like shit.... But maybe thats cause my brother Gets like a GiG
Faster some but cost to speed i think macs are Better


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Since no one would listen to me in the first place, here's a bit of my spices added to it: (answering to Ace's and wrath's posts) No Ace, they're not lies. In fact, I agree with wrath on one thing. Macs are made for graphics, but are faster than any other (newer) PC models on the market.

Even with games, Macs outrank PC's. Funny, isn't it? If you say PC's suck - which in general terms means you don't like the way they are built or the way they perform - bear in mind that it is the operating system (OS) which does not draw to YOUR standards. I personnally think the OS on PC's (Windows?) are grotesque and unbearable (ugly). It is slower than any other MacOS, ugly... I can make a whole list... Take, for instance, the "new" Windows? XP. For me, XP (xperience... go figure...!) is nothing but a simple, but draft copy of MacOS X.

Anyhow, Macs are not better, but are not worse either.
Like myself, I own both a PC (1 Ghz) and an 400Mhz iMac. You should learn how to use both. I agree I play more games on my PC than I do on my Mac, but when it comes to artwork, designs of any kind, schoolwork, I turn the power switch of my Mac on.

Coming on to my final statement, Macs are stuck with this problem, since the first "real" models came out, with "incompatibility". This is a problem, a real problem I mean, which isn't solved yet. I dearly hope it will.
Another issue here are the prices of them. The day the G4 Quicksilver 867, 22" flat screen came out for sale as an example, it was worth about 2 to 3 standard issue PC's. Heck, the 22" flat panel was worth a PC already! Now, of course, you can get this model for a cheaper price, which is good.

Last remark to this - design. As you may already know (if you own a Mac, who doesn't?), Macs don't keep their standard CPU and monitor models to where PC's do. After a few years, people wondered what the computer of the near future would look like. Macintosh? in a way was inspired by the idea. Remember the G4 Cube? So the CPU itself looked like a toaster, and the price rate was elevated, it was a renewed model. I must confess at first I was overwhelmed by the look of it, but in a good way only. You could say I was fascinated by it, in some sort.

Erm, I wonder what happens if I put bread between the G4 Cube's spaces?

'nuf said for today,
-Beefy, sick @ home.

Alll good points Beefy or weaselFink

I played Ghost Recon for about 20 minutes, and thought it completely sucked balls. R6 and RS totally OWN it, no question. And Im sure Raven Shield will ass them all.

As far as PC vs Mac goes, the only thing peecees have over a mac is the gaming issues, lots more games and quicker release dates. Otherwise youd be a fool to own a P(iece) of C(rap), and thats the real deal. Aside from the fact that the only sort of style they ever come out with is what they rip off from Apple!!!

GHOST RECON IS AWSOME AND ITS FOR PC AND THEY ARE BETTER

Pcman, without solid, concrete reasons for your last answer to this, I'm afraid your statement has no meaning at all.

This might just be a wild guess, but I believe Nomad(KOS) is the one hidden behind Pcman's secret identity. I remember the avatar picture. Nomad might not be the only one with that picture - guess you know now why I call it a guess.

It might be the symtoms, but I have a strange feeling I'm right about this.

-Beefy, sick @ home.

Im not gonna go into the PC VS Mac issue.  Think its starting to get into a religious type of issue now.  But back to the issue at hand ^.^  I got the demo for Ghost Recon and the graphics on it kick ass so far.  The world is in a nice 3D texture, just like a certain map (I dont know the name of the map) but its really nice.  The interface is really different from R6 and RS.  Just like some one noted about the Riflemen and stuff, thats how different it is man.  You cant actually choose your gun properly.  The multiplayer is pretty nice, yet you arnt able to fully see behond a certain point.  Cant animate the textures at a distance, well, for me any ways.  Also, when you play a MP game, you dont see any countdown to when the game is going to start.  It just, starts?  really anoying to me since I am a hella newbie at it.  I gota say something else thats tight.  Medal of Honor: Allied Assault kicks ass so far dude!  Holy shit its tight!!!  Oh well, back to TV.  Dexters Lab is on hah

Stryker ? [ifB]

Actually, The reasons that PCs are cheaper is because their they suck basically, Most PCs last about half as long as macs, and while there are less programs out for macs, the ones that are out for both run much better on macs.

-Typhy

Stryker, might I ask what the requirements for GhostRecon are?

-Beey, sick @ home.

Beefy is right. PC has lots of more proggies and games, but mac is teh state of teh art graphic computer. Yes, Mac actually sux @ games, but don't blame the makers, they never wanted a gamestation. Go buy a PS2 ffs. the speed of PC's isnt that good. I know 1.6 Gigahertz sound fecking much, but it's proven that many games on mac require alot less Mhz then a PC does. PC just needs more Mhz, so they have 2 be faster, but compared it's not that much faster. Btw, ne1 already heard about that Japanese manufacterer, they produced a computer which is 5x as fast as the current fastest computer of the world. That would be faster then a mac  ;D

- [R] Godfather -

It's good to have someone alongside with me. ;-)

-Beefy, feelin' better already.

sorry to burst your bubble, but the fastest computers in the world are not macs.
crays, suns, and other supercomputers eat terraflops for breakfast,far more calculation than a mac can do in a day
of course, last time i checked, i didnt have to have a liquid nitrogen cooling system for my imac

Ha, liquid nitrogen cooling system... you're bluffing!

-Beefy, it's the symptoms so don't you worry.

nope, that is no bluff
some of the fasest computers today use liquid nitrogen to cool the chips
others encase the chips in plastic and use a waterfall to cool them
either way those chips get HOT

Do you even know how much a teraflop is? I don't know too much about crays but you can be damn sure none of them can get anywhere close to a teraflop. A cluster of I believe 233 G4's could only achieve approximately 1/5 of a teraflop.

Gotta argue with you here Brain.

First, Sun servers aren't that fast.  We have some very, very big sun servers at work (24 processors each) and they are not in the league of Big Blue or Ultra White or any of the other super computers.  They handle a lot of data fast, but no faster then any Beowolf class (I'll talk more about this later).

Second, Cray's are on the down slope.  I was there when Ford installed their Cray.  Very cool to see the waterfall cooling system.... but it's not the shit it was in the 80's.

Third, yes, there are computers that have seen teraflops (afterall, the fastest mac's see 20gigaflops or so...  which is 1/50th of a teraflop.)

Last, the absolute shit in data processing today is Beowolf class computer clusters.  These were first started around 10 years ago when one of the university labs (Berkley if I remember correctly) had 20 sun sparc 20's laying around (with the ultra sparc's out, these weren't that hot of machine).  So they did a little experiment on them.  They put three eithernet cards in each.  One card was connected with a crossover to the computer before it, on card was connected with a crossover to the computer after it, and one card was connected to the switch in the middle.  This formed a circle of computers with super redundant connections (which later proved unnecessary).  They then played with the operating system (solaris 6 at the time I think) and came up with a way for the first computer to take a problem, break off a piece and give it to computer number two, which would break off a piece and give it to computer nubmer three... and around the circle it went... when it got back to computer number one it would either break off another piece if it was done with the first one, or if not, just pass it on to number two...

You get the idea.  What they found was something that was on par with the fastest supercomputers of the day.... at a fraction of the cost.  Think about it... they used what was considered outdated computers which needed no specail cooling or environment.... and was running a comercial unix program (so not all software had to be written for it) that could run that fast.  

Other experiments have been going on with this for the last decade.... Pooch for the macs comes to mind for this discussion.

Now, think about connecting 250 or so Dual G4's at 20 gigaflops each connected with gigabit eithernet to some nice expensive switches.... sure, you wont see 100% usage on them.... but you'd see terraflops coming out of your ass.

Now, why don't you see this?  What in the hell for?  No matter how you slice it, performance is expensive.  I could cluster 12 G4 Dual 1ghz and outperform my Sun e4500, and for less cost I assure you.  But then I'd have one fast ass mac with not much to use it for...  Running a web server or application server.... too much gun.  Running a web farm.... ok, but I could have done that without clustering.  These systems are good for big calculations only... breaking codes.. the human genome project... seti... that sort of thing.  And that's what they are being used for.  

BTW, the mac clusters are out performing other clusters in the human gnome project from an article I read 5 months ago.

Remember... it's all about the floating point calculations per second.  That's the bottom line.  And Mac's stand up with anyone there.... maybe not at the front every time... but not far behind.

Yup, Grift said it all.

-Beefy, 38.2?C fever.

so i was wrong on a few numbers, and i had some old facts
my point was still valid, macs(1 stand alone computer) are not the fastest computer on the planet

well... you can't really count a mac pc against a sun e4000 then,  because that's comparing apples to oranges (pun intended).

The e4000 series has all those chips... same with AS/400's or RS/6000's which are just bigger boxes with more and more chips (the latter by IBM).... and you can just keep going up that ladder....  

If you want to talk about the fastest computer, compare home consumer machines for around the same price (where Macs will stack up, win or lose).  If you want to talk about fastest single chip platform you can find.... I think that's an compaq alpha-T64Uv4.0d/EV67 today(somewhere around 65 gigaflops I think I read, but don't quote me, because I'm not on top of that subject).  Those 64 bit alpha chips do rock.  But try to find one for sale... then try to afford it.

something tells me that  that would cost me about as much as i spend for a semester of college, maybe two

You go to a real exclusive private school?

No?

Better notch it up a few more semesters.... heh.

1 or 2 years?(including books)

Guys-
ive played GR on sp and mp. Graphics are great! but its fucken hard to find tangos cause the maps are TOOOOOOO big for 16 tangos! Anyways, I dont recommend GR.Mp, its just like playing RS on the mac, LAGGY! You guys should check out Medal of Honor Allied Assult. Its based off the D-Day.

I heard they asked producer Steven Spielberg to recapture the landing in Normandy from his award winning movie "Saving Private Ryan" and set it to the game. Funny, isn't it?

-Beefy, wheezing badly.

lol.... just play Medal of Honor or RtWC, its just like being there. I prefer Medal of Honor.

Wow,

Can someone shut grifter up? holy shitballs...lol....i basically bounced my forehead off the desk tryin to stay awake to read the post.

Anyway, we all own pc's cause IBM's biggest customer is Mac, so therefore, your are actually using a PC.

Mac=PC parts. the only diff is the chip and the operating system. oh, and the price.

Just like mazda. They are made by ford. therefore, in reality, they are actually ford's.

Casper,since im a sniper,i bought this game and it owns,i take it favorably becuase it is more of a stealthy sniperish game.ITS THE BEST GAME EVER!(no im not giving up rs)

how did this turn in to pc vs macs?????


and goku i realy like Ghost recon, because i like to snipe to and i couldn't agree more that is like more of a sniper game.  ::) ::) ::)