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Which is Better MAC or PC?

i think mac's are i think they are faster last longer and run smoother but i also have 2 peice of shit PCs that barely have enough Room for UrBan Ops

Ps. plz dont lock or delte this plz I want to know what people think....

Ill tell u which is better PC's!!!!!!

ok i respect that :) But if he is the olny one that cares then.....


P.S. MACS R better

U know what SHUT THE FUCK UP PCs are The Best Computers in the world u little ass hole!!!!! HAHAHAHAH FOR ALL THOOSE MAC ASSHOLES PCS RUUUUUULLLLLLE

shhhh pcman..

shhhhhhhh

what a dumbass
i would ass him but ?as murphy says; never argue with a fool, ppl may not know the difference

Man, Claim down i said i accepted your Oppion SO Just be quiet

Yeah your right Brian but...  i didnt look at your post... ::)

where is the proof of your statement i.e. why are pc's the best computers in the world
please cite specific instances and numbers.
also, have you ever even used a mac recently?(within the past year)

Sigh.. another useless thread created by my careless remarks..

If you want to know what and when I answered to this, check out Casper's "Has anyone ever played GhostRecon before???!?"
thread.

-Beefy, sick @ home.

Maybe it is careless but i wanted to now what people think!
Cause im thinking about getting another laptop comp to so im asking for oppions is ?there any thing wrong with that?

ive turned 6 or 7 hardcore pc users into mac users. its kinda funny.. like the first kid i met when i moved to PA was like "eewww why do you have a mac?!" but now hes getting a job this summer so he will have enough for a g4. heh. lets see, 2 people have gotten ibooks, 2 g4s, a couple older computers, 1 titanium, a couple imacs.. and the funny part is im stull using a pos imac dv.

anyway pcmans probobly just a mac user trying to get us going...

Or NOT i think MACS ARE GAY looking, SLOW, CANT TAKE     AS MANY GAMES, AND HAVE A wAY TO PLAY ON THE INET

hmmm i think pcmans too stupid for even a pc user.. however amusing it may be..

Poor bastard, you're being too harsch on him, geek.

-Beefy, it's the symtoms, don't worry.

WOOP WOOP WOOP...
there goes the newbie post alarm again, guess pcman opened his mouth again because i can smell the bs coming out of it.
well, one thing pc man, unless you come in here with facts and figures, there is no way you are going to win this argument. oh yea, one last thing:
STOP TALKING IN ALL CAPS YOU N00BIE SON OF A BITCH, IT IS ANNOYING AS HELL AND NOBODY WILL EVER TAKE YOU SERIOUSLY. IF I WERE TO YELL IN YOUR FACE IN REAL LIFE WOULD YOU LISTEN TO ME...DIDNT THINK SO. IF IT DOESNT WORK IN REAL LIFE, WHAT THE HELL MAKES YOU THINK IT WOULD HERE?

i feel better now, burned off a lot of stress

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what was that you said? gay looking? heh. dream on.

hey, let's get macman in here. (is he even ?on the forums?) that would make this interesting...

you are all idiots, you open a thread saying which is better macs or pc's and when some one says pcs you all get anal... jeez why dont you make the thread say:
 
NO OPINIONS THAT I DONT LIKE HERE!

aight let's all just face the facts that some operating systems are better than others for certain tasks. e.g., the SG systems are used for high-end graphics, macs are used for middle of the road shtick, PC's are used for buisness stuff, and fatty UNIX mainframes are used to warehouse data.

PC's have a much larger game selection, as well as choices of buisness software, and macs are officially the minority.

blah blah, user interface is better on mac, pc's look like my ass, blah blah, but no. personally untill the new G4's came out i thought macs were starting to look.. well.. fruity. But thank god they got away from that "bondi" blue and started back into the gray scheme. i almost bought spray paint to re-color my iMac.

I started this and i never said bad shit about the guy who came in and said Pc's are better So i dont know what you are talking about i said Man, Claim down i said i accepted your Oppion SO Just be quiet
to the Posted by: PCMAN      Posted on: May 4th, 2002, 11:23am
U know what SHUT THE FUCK UP PCs are The Best Computers in the world u little ass hole!!!!! HAHAHAHAH FOR ALL THOOSE MAC ASSHOLES PCS RUUUUUULLLLLLE

well, this is a rather heated topic, which people feel VERY passionate about sometimes. And sometime they scare me with just how much they care about what kind of computer they're using. for Christs sake, does it matter all that much? it's just a fuckin' computer!

I think it is best to own 2 computers ( 1 mac, 1 pc). I'm buying a PC for gaming uses, and my mac will do basically everythign else. I'll just custom build a PC that will do nothing but gaming.

I dont hold a grudge against pc users because they like pcs. Thats almost like being racist. (who knows what remarks that comment will gain me)

Really ppl grow up...

I gota say, and I mean this literaly.  This thread is humerous to me.  I own a Mac and a PC, and there both tight to me.  Read that your trying to get a new comp Capser.  You should check out the HP line.  There hella cheap right now and really nice.  Im starting to get back into the PC bizz again cause of all the new games.  Its just this Windows XP BS thats pissing me off.  Keeps giving some error bs on how the program quit.  But I still prefer Macs.  I also notice a huge ass thing about a PC and a difference of a Mac.  PC's usualy hang more easly thatn Macs, yet Macs crash more than PC's lol.  Oh well, enough of my two cents.  I just hope GR opens up soon man.  I wanna play RS?  :( :( :( :(

Stryker ? [ifB]

I started this thread because I may buy a computer but i dont hold a grude!!!!

Hmmz, how do you reason in saying that PCs are better than macs? A good mac can run Windows faster than most PCs, Is there a think that makes PCs run MAC OS faster than macs? I don't think so.

-Typhy

im gonna get my hands on a cheap pc for 1 reason.. day of defeat (the half life mod). mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm and mmmmmmm. ever play it? mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Could a moderater lock this topic it is a realy bad Topic that is realy oppionated that can make people mad!!!!!!!

Unless people find things in a topic offensive it is very fun to have topics where people dissagree, Thats part of having boards.

-Typhy

True... So.... True typhy

i will put in my imput of I think it is Best To have 2 or even 3 comps (if u travel a lot) a Pc Desktop for all those games that are not on mac then the mac for everything else. The 3rd comp for Traveling such as a laptop for this i would choose mac because i think desktop macs run smoother then Desktop Pcs.(i have never realy used a mac laptop) I think Pc Laptops Are Horrable cause they are so jumpy that its not funny and Macs may cost more but they are Way Smoother and faster and so on....

personally, i'm down with both platforms, but i've always thought apple made better computers overall. it's only my opinion.. but if not for apple, computers would not be what they are today. *any* computer.

i have crashed my computer thousands of times and have yet to corrupt a file
i know windoze users who have to deal with corrupt files after almost every crash

i like my mac...
can we say bulletproof?

Exactly brain. For us RS players who crash our computers 5-10 times per day Macs are the best.  

Dude, I remember when we first got this G3, my bro overheard that this comp was literaly bullet proof by being made out of bullet proof plastic.  He was literaly going to take it out one day to shoot it to see if it was true.  So was I lol

Stryker ? [ifB]

::)

if a mac corruped files like windoze, i would have quit playing rs by now, cuz the whole game would be corrupted (god damn crappy port)
hell that is how i usually end up leaving rs anyway

Thats usually how I stop playing RS each time, By my computer crashing, Usually I just host 'til it crashes and then go do somthing else.

Since no one would listen to me in the first place, here's a bit of my spices added to it: (answering to Ace's and wrath's posts) No Ace, they're not lies. In fact, I agree with wrath on one thing. Macs are made for graphics, but are faster than any other (newer) PC models on the market.

Even with games, Macs outrank PC's. Funny, isn't it? If you say PC's suck - which in general terms means you don't like the way they are built or the way they perform - bear in mind that it is the operating system (OS) which does not draw to YOUR standards. I personnally think the OS on PC's (Windows?) are grotesque and unbearable (ugly). It is slower than any other MacOS, ugly... I can make a whole list... Take, for instance, the "new" Windows? XP. For me, XP (xperience... go figure...!) is nothing but a simple, but draft copy of MacOS X.

Anyhow, Macs are not better, but are not worse either.
Like myself, I own both a PC (1 Ghz) and an 400Mhz iMac. You should learn how to use both. I agree I play more games on my PC than I do on my Mac, but when it comes to artwork, designs of any kind, schoolwork, I turn the power switch of my Mac on.

Coming on to my final statement, Macs are stuck with this problem, since the first "real" models came out, with "incompatibility". This is a problem, a real problem I mean, which isn't solved yet. I dearly hope it will.
Another issue here are the prices of them. The day the G4 Quicksilver 867, 22" flat screen came out for sale as an example, it was worth about 2 to 3 standard issue PC's. Heck, the 22" flat panel was worth a PC already! Now, of course, you can get this model for a cheaper price, which is good.

Last remark to this - design. As you may already know (if you own a Mac, who doesn't?), Macs don't keep their standard CPU and monitor models to where PC's do. After a few years, people wondered what the computer of the near future would look like. Macintosh? in a way was inspired by the idea. Remember the G4 Cube? So the CPU itself looked like a toaster, and the price rate was elevated, it was a renewed model. I must confess at first I was overwhelmed by the look of it, but only in a good way. You could say I was fascinated by it, in some sort.

I wonder what happens if I put bread between the Cube's spaces?

'nuf said for today,
-Beefy, sick @ home.

hey pc man, read flinks article, if you are going to try and pursuade somebody, that is how to go about it. not by typing in all caps and yelling at us constantly

Good points.

It feels great to have a few alongside with me. You're goin' down, PCman... bah!

-Beefy, on medication.

with you to the bitter end, beefy!(i.e. if he wins) :D

oh and another line for your end quote
the tiniest minds become lawmakers

here is a good rumor for us apple fans out there. http://www.theinquirer.net/30010215.htm
OSX maybe porting AMDs new 64bit chip? hmmmm future looks good.
-Cow

Brain, I find my three signature lines enough, thank you for asking (rolleyes).

-Beefy, 38.2?C fever.

Typhy

Thats BS. NO MAC can ever run a PC operation system as fast as a PC!!

No emulation can do that b/c it does not support the CPU features it does not support all hardware features. This post was stupid. I never saw a MAC running  Virtual PC wit Windows as fast as a PC can do that!

And i saw many MAC and PCs in my life.
I use both at home and at work - and i have to say that the performence of OS X is much more worse than of WinXP. I like the OSX more but the performence is really damn worse.

You saying that "Any PC" Can run Windows faster than a mac can, Umm...  so you're saying that a 100mhz PC runs windows faster than a Dual Ghz G4? Hmm.. Explain your reasoning in that.

Im talking about more or less actuall systems not about antiquarils!

But even a PIII 500 MHz can run it more fast then the dual G4 - If u have read a bit more u would know that the dual is more or less a fake - it dont give u more performence . excepts in progs that are made for the DUAL G4 Procs.

AND i never said : " ANY PC "

all i can say is holy shit
there are alot of if's in that chain of events
but if it happens...well,let's just say the wintell users might know what it's like to be 2nd class citizens

Well I didn't bother reading the second page and most of the third, so forgive me if someone already said somethig like this, but I just wanna say why would PCman be on a forum used by mac gamers? Lets think a little people. Geek--your posts were making sense unlike most of the others, until you got to the "mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm....ever play it?" one. Anyway....yeah....
I'll just show my trademark sniping guy now since I have nothing more to say.

:-[                                                                      ::) ?

This is a headache question.  Mac's are so much better than Pre Computers.  I spend a lot of time arguing with some people in school.  They are so dumb.  You like a peecee if you've never used a mac.  PC's are a headache.  Constantly breaking and you have to get a new one in at most a year.  My friend has a 3 year old imac and it can still run new games.  With a PC you'll be lucky to play a game in 5 month's without it breaking.  My friend bought a beautiful 3000 dollar pc, cd burner, dvd player, 60 gig harddrive.  Its horrible.  Nothing works on it.  The games don't work you can't even double click icons.  Have you ever tried to search on a pc?  It will find every word containing a letter of what you wrote.  Watch the G4 at mac.com.

all it boils down too is you use what you were raised on. i've been using macs since i was 5 (i'm almost 17 now), so i have a slight bit of loyalty to them. 12 years of one platform will do that.

i think i have about 12 of 13 yers on macs (apples)
and i am probably the most die hard mac fan you will ever see.
hell if  apple were to disapear tomorrow i would still use my mac for years to come.
let's see a pc user claim that.

That's the spirit!

-Beefy

You guys keep talking apples and oranges.

You are NOT talking about computers, you are talking about PLATFORMS.  The mix of a computer with an operating system.

If you really want to find out which is faster, and by how much, there's one test that can be very close to test just the HARDWARE...  just install Red Hat Linux on the PC and Yellow Dob Linux on the Mac.... then do a bake off.  Run the same apps doing the same tasks.

Now, if we are talking platform, it's all speculation and user preference at that point.  I use 6 different platforms most days (Mac OS X, Windoze 2000, Linux on Mac, Linux on PC, Solaris on Sun, HPUX on HP).  All have their own little twists.  If I had my choice about it, the only one I'd quit using is Windoze.  I can do everything I do at work from my iBook except submit my Time and Attendance or Expense Reports (home grown apps for Windoze).  I suppose I could still do those with VPC, but that's still Windoze, just on my Mac Hardware (yet another platform).

The point being... in average business.... cpu speed doesn't mean much, as the UI (user interface) is what really slows down work.  The computer is usually idle, waiting for information.  So CPU speed is secondary to ease of use.  Hell, Linux or Solaris on intell runs much faster (then Windoze on the same hardware), but the reason it's not adopted for the desktop has more to do with UI then anything else.  

I'm saying this because the Mac as a design computer and Windoze as a business computer are old arguments that don't carry much weight anymore.  Photoshop works for the average user just as well on the PC as it does on the Mac (at least as well as games run on the Mac compared to how they run on the PC).  Platforms are all about need and preference.  Can the one you really like using do what you need?

Don't get me wrong... I still think Windoze is the buggiest piece of code to ever be shipped (they do ship the alpha release.. I do believe it!!) But it's an OS, not the whole PC.  I also think Mac Hardware is better (for me).  I believe that RISC is the way to go (too bad the chip makers aren't as big or fast as the CISC boys), and the form and funcion of Macs are beyond any other.  I'd not trade my iBook for any other laptop out there.  A full powered system in the body of a sub-notebook... that's what a laptop should be to me.  Ace, your powerbook is fine.... a better choice for you, since it's your only Mac, but I'd still take that and run VPC or Linux if I had to over running any Dell or Sony or Compaq laptop.  

On a side note, one of the funniest thing is, in everyday life games are the most workout any computer platforms get.  (for consumer platforms, not servers)

Grift, you wouldn've said we talked "apples and oranges" if you'd have read my post on page 2 of this thread. Maybe THEY talk smack, but I don't. I suggest you read through my post   again carefully. I apologize for the writing on both these and earlier posts - if they're confusing, don't bother telling me.

-Beefy.

Linux is better muwhahaha :o :o

Oh, I read it.....
But you still take the Mac and PC's as platforms, not as hardware vs Software.  You mention Windoze being part of the problem, but you stop there.  When talking about your Mac and it's performance, you are only talking about in regards to apps in OS X or OS 9 (you didn't say which).  

I'll give you another example.... Right now, I have three Mac platforms running at my house.  A Cube running OS X, A dual 1ghz G4 running OS 9, and an G3 running Linux.  Now, first assume that all three were running on the dual 1 ghz (because all three can)... they are still 3 platforms.  Which one is faster?  (you are now asking which operating system runs fastest on this one piece of hardware).  OS 9 BTW.  Now, do you expect these same OS's to perform the same way on all three machines (you'd be wrong... Linux is a bit faster on the G3)?  

Yes, Operating systems are half the equation... hardware being the other.. sprinkle in a bit of optimization of the OS for the Hardware selected (OS X is optimized for G4's, not G3's... taking advantage of shortcuts in the chip architecuter).... etc etc etc.

In other words... unless you want to take two hardware kits.... and apply multiple OS's and apps to all of them to do a side by side bake off.... all that really matters is what you really like to use.  Whatever that is... is the better computer for you.  Speed is mostly a myth (key word there... mostly)....  when talking about PC's vs Apples... what matters is can it do the job you want and which do you like using more.  

Yes, you do mention form factor a little as well WF... which is another aspect of why you would like one more then another.  It has nothing to do with performance but taste.  And let's face it, most Americans don't have much taste (or shows like Opra and Jerry Springer etc would never be on the air).  So, that helps explain why the Mac's don't do as well here :)

Well in my opinon, Macs are better.You my ask why. I have a G3 b&w 350mhz 512ram, running 8.6 adn its still alot faster than my Dell P4 1.8 with 512 ram, running Windows 2000.
G3 came out in 1998 and P4's in 2001.Thats three years diffrence!!!!!

First off let's get something straight, of course MACS are better than PC's, yes I know, this is my opinion!!!
Hologram, does not know what he is talking about!!! First off, you say that OSX runs slower that WinXP....well my first question would be, what kind of hardware are you running OSX on.  I mean, os x is built for G4 and up (soon the g5, however, I can still run os x on my g3 but of course its slower.  Also, you say that a Pent. III 500mhz can run faster than a dual G4?  ARE YOU KIDDING!!!!  Incase you don't know a mac MHz is ALWAYS about roughly 2x more the MHz in equivalence with a PC.  For example, a g3 500MHz iBook, is equivalent to 1GHz PC.  So a dual g4 which is 800MHz is approx. 1.6GHz PC.  But all that aside its not the MHz that = performance, its the pipeline quantity and size.  This is what is called the MHz myth.  You may have heard of it as the Pipeline Tax and so the g4 is made with far less pipeline than a PC uses and so thats why Mac's are always faster than PC's
Also on a side note, for those who use Mac's and PCs on a regular basis....why is it that Mac's after they crash (and granted I would say that they do crash more-not alot more, but more-than PC's do) all you have to do is reboot and wait for the smiley face and that's it!! everything is back to normal within minutes.  Whereas, when a PC crashes all hell brakes loose!! meaning that you need to call a technician to come in and fix the damn problem and when you ask him what the problem was, they can't even answer the question...AND!! all your files end up in other folders...icons on desktop go missing etc etc etc but this was just a side note and my 2cents..

GO MAC!!!

a good mac running virtual pc is equal to like 300 PC mhz.. and we all know what 300 pc mhz is.. (crap)

Haha, crap... I like that.

-Beefy.

Yah, i'm here, just didnt notice the thread in time (work)
let's relate this thread to the flame warrior definitions posted by cossack shall we? (http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame1.html)
"PCUSER" would be among others an "ALLCAPS", with a few borrowed traits from "Garble", and a lot of other bad thing i do not care to think about now. What i'd like to know is how the hell this pathetic subject got so much replies? when on a Mac gaming forum, it should be reasonable to expect most users to be pro-macs.
So why do you all allow yourself to be provoked by an idiot like PCUSER, who obviously only registered to bash macs, and be bashed by us mac users.
I hereby vote this thread unworthy, for it has been contaminated by a PC poster

- MacMan, PC bashing since 1983

This makes me feel very stupid...

-Beefy, resigning.

i think that we would have been the swarm in this case