*DAMN R6 Forum

It been my observation that a decent number of R6/RS players on GR have or do use the wonderful weed.  So, with that connection, I start the Pot Thread.

First with the three ways to use it
rolled, pipe, or bong.  It is my understanding that it is harder on the lungs if you roll it as you breath the burnt paper as well as the good smoke.  With a pipe you only get the smoke you desire, and with a bong it would be easiest on lungs as it is mixed with steam.  Anyone want to clear my understanding on this?

As a Libertarian here in the U.S. I of course support the legalization of pot as well as the repeal of the sin tax that taxes people for "immoral" actions such as smoking cigarettes and drinking.  While I am religious, I don't believe God gives a shit about drug use or cursing without hostile intent .  They aren't acts against fellow man or against god.  The gov has no place to be our moral inforcers, only to make sure each person's personal rights are protected from another.

BTW, it may seem like I'm more of a pot head but actually I've only smoked it once, and it was nice.    ;D
Either way, I feel Europe largely has the right idea in the political, they let people have personal rights, they help promote a decent living for all, and they are very peaceful.

End Bondo's Pot and Politics Rant   8)

I dont touch it anymore but I totaly agree on the legalisation bit, but not the reduced tax on cigarettes, why should I breath in others smoke, but thats for a differnet thread.

I read somewhere that if the government [UK] were to cattegorise alcohol it would become a class A band substance.

Shit aint it :)

Yay! Another Libertarian! :)

Legalize all drugs, I say..

Thats a question I do have, what is the legality of drugs in England.  I want to move to Europe but since I only speak english my options are somewhat limited.  Obviously alcohol is legal (they'll never get the scotish and irish to stop drinking), tabacco is legal, but is pot or other drugs legal like in much of mainland Europe.  Hehe, either way, I can take a train to Amsterdamn if I want anything so it isn't essential  ;)
I just really want to get out of this country so in a few years, England, here I come.  Now if only I can find a job there.

8)

warez is an off-topic subject in the forums, but illegal drugs are not...

anyways, Mort and I have had access to a substance equally as potent as weed and legal for a long time now. It sparked the creation of the Janitors. It is known as...

Fresca.

(http://www.webtender.com/gfx/images/fresca.gif)

 fresca lol...

i think pot should be leagalized, throughout your whole life anti-pot propaganda has been shoved in your face and most if it has now been proven false, or not proven either way... pot is mentally addicting, not physically like tobacco, alcohol, and caffinne. no one has ever died from smoking pot, and since it is smoked less that ciggarettes it doesnt fuck up your lungs. if u smoke a joint or a pipe u get a lot of smoke, but with a bong (water) the THC bubbles through and everything else is left in the water. in alaska you are allowed to smoke in the privacy of your own home... i wish it was like that in all states. i say stay natural, and the legalization of all other drugs would be a bad idea, i know it would be there choice for them to use them and if they get killed it was there fault... but they put others peoples lives in danger. like drinking and driving. also other drugs like heroin, coke, etc.. are very addicting and people usually die from overdoses..

http://leda.lycaeum.org/Documents/Cannabis_Hemp_FAQ.11818.shtml <-- this answers some questions on the sunbject

thats all for now folks.

Hmm some of you guys have real issues  ;)

**Runs Away in fright**

I've never taken any drugs - but I can help BONDO with his question regarding the UK - pot is illegal here, still, but the police are currently experimenting with not charging casual users - this is at least true in certain areas of London - Brixton, certainly. There are moves here to legalise some drugs - but you may find yourself needing to go to the continent for a while yet...

Toby

All you Spicoli wannabes need to put the bong down. Weed is bad for you, and don't try to argue otherwise with me. I can look at a number of guys I know and see the effect of weed. Hell, let's just take a look around the forums and see some of the notable smokers and anti-smokers:

Spicolis: Bander, zak
Non-smokers: mort, blackhand, myself and wrath -Wrath

Any questions?



BTW, Squirt rules, Fresca drools.

For one thing, anything I say is on topic because I'm DAMN  :)

As for my other argument, I would have no intention of using it consistently but it is a nice way for relaxation, sure there are some health risks but you have health risks from doing everything.  Life is short, breath it in with some nice feelings.

Ahem, I tottaly argee with Ace and Viper on this issue, but just to clear up a few potheads on one issue, pot is not a legal substance in my home state, Alaska.  There have been several atempts in legalising it for private use however these have all failed.  Don't ask me why I'm responding to this pothead topic though.  ***runs away with fright with viper***
-toon
btw, Serria Mist kicks Sprites ass any day

Hey you anti-pot people, do you feel it should remain illegal, or would you be fine with it being legal if those who used it couldn't in public. ?Are you so anti-pot that you'd take the other's choice away to protect yourself?

BTW, Water kicks every other drinks ass.

BTW blackhand, if we consider this forum based in Austria, home of Mauti and Bander, then we aren't talking about illegal drugs.

true bondo.

I do not support legalizing pot for three reasons:

-10 year old kids.

-It might open up the "floodgates" and I don't want heroin, cocaine, acid, etc. following suit and becoming legal.

-I don't want my life to risked because of some idiot driving under the influence of weed.

The UK probably wont legalise pot because of the cut they probably make in the illegal selling of it (Im so sceptical its unbelievable :) ]

As far as I know there are plans for legalising it for medication in what form I dont know. Up North the police cant arrest you if you have small quantities they just confiscate it and toke it in the back of their Transit vans, well they might do?

It should be legal anyway, whose more dangerous a piss head whos been drinking angry juice like Cafferies or a weed head who got the munchies and cant be arsed getting up??

Maybe thats why its illegal, the British government would lose out on all that Tax from the drop in alcohol sales.

U SCARE ME BONDO LOL

Jagged, you scare us all.

Unlike my esteemed non-smoking collegues (for I also do not smoke)I have no problem with the legalization of the wacky weed.  I think we need to legalize it, tax the hell out of it, and regulate it.  For what it's worth, I feel the same about prostitution.

As for other drugs, the punishments should be more severe then they currently.

Fresca, I guarentee, has just as many dangers, and less benifits than MJ, and I suggest it for those who want to "walk on the wild side"

Medicinally, it is used in some pill forms, but still has yet to be legalized in its more potenet form, inhaled.  that will come soon enough though.

Even though the (Libertarian) Party wouldn't like the whole taxing thing, as a concession to get both pot and prostitution legalized I think it would be acceptable.  BTW, for you people who think it would endanger non-smokers, as long as it was used in the confines of one's home there would be no real danger.  Unlike massive amounts of alcohol, pot doesn't make you lose your mind and do messed up things, and it also doesn't make you hostile.  It just makes you mellow and calm.  While it would be dangerous to drive in this state,  as long as you didn't you would be no danger to society.

bondo, judging by your post, I can only conclude one thing: you don't smoke the really good shit. ;)

mort, i'm glad your mother doesn't visit these forums.

and please, let's fix the current legalized drug problems before introducing another.

yay for marinol!

In general I don't think drugs are a good thing, I just don't think they should be illegal. Thusly being caught with the substances shouldn't be a crime.  It is a medical problem that needs to be cured, not a criminal one.  Get these people treatment, not punishment.

Ahhh, that's bullshit. "It's not their fault, they can't help it." Fuck that. Nut up and don't do it. It's as easy as that. If you can't, you are a weakling with no willpower and deserve to go to jail to be a big black guy's bitch.

Being that i'm not in the arguementative mood, I'll just pretend Ace didnt post.  Hey, that's a pretty good tactic all the time, isnt it?

My mother knows I wanna legalize pot and prostitutes.  She just shouldn't be told that I be spendin' the G's on both.



Funny thing is marinol isnt a crazy drug, like the drugs that made you shoot out all the lights in complex...

"It's a cheat, I swear!"
"Ok Douf, you just keep thinkin' that..."

Guess it's time for me to spout off on this thread.

So, I'll start by surprising most of you and saying that I think it wouldn't be a bad thing to legallize weed.  It isn't much worse then alcohol (better in some ways, worse in others).  It would just need to be controlled like alcohol is (or better, not like cig's).

Weed, alcohol, opium, X, etc... they are all drugs.  By making some of them illegal, we are just saying that people can't be trusted to do the right things.

Now, all that being said.... I want to put it in perspective.  I don't belive in seatbelt or helmet laws for adults either.  People should have the right to be a dumbass.... not wear a helmet.... abuse drugs.... be a dumbass....  People should have the right to prove Darwin's theory right.  The average IQ in the gene pool will only go up.  

The obvious argument against this is crack babies and people that turn out like Peekay and Rom because their mothers smoked too much pot while they were prego... (ok, this was uncalled for... but I hadn't mocked anyone in a while.  Bander doesn't count, since calling an asshole an asshole isn't really mocking).

Poor Mort has been drinking a little more Fresca than he can handle..

The thing is, Grift, there will always be crack babies.. no matter how illegal drugs of any sort are, people will still get them. A response to this is "well, there will be even more if you legalize drugs!". Oh well.. let the Dumbasses? kill themselves off.

I think everyone's views can be summed up easily:

GRIFT: Dumbasses have a natural right to be dumbasses

Wrath: Dumbasses will get knocked off by evolution sooner or later

Bondo: It's legal to be a dumbass in Europe

Blackhand: We already have enough dumbasses, we don't need more

Mort: Don't tell my mom I want to become a dumbass

Me: We should publicly stone dumbasses (Or at least let them be prison bitches)

Sounds about right.  Anyway, didn't Jefferson say something like everyone should have life, liberty, and the pursuit of dumbassidicy.(I like making new suffixes).  I say if we have a right to life, we have a right to death, if we have right to liberty, we also have a right to imprisonment.  Screw it all, anarchy here we come.
:o ::)

ok, shooting out all the lights in complex isn't a cheat. but it should be.

Ace: I'm the Resident Ass who wishes all these dumbasses would stop talking about drugs and resume talking about what an ass Rom is and what a moron Jagged is.  Why because I'm the resident ass and I control this forum. {Laughs maliciously}

No Bondo, I love mocking drug users just as much as I do Rom or JaggedEdge. And btw, a malicious laugh properly executed goes like this:

MWAHAHAHAHAHA

So slightly off topic, but I went to Colby College this week for an overnight stay.

(Colby College = small, quality liberal arts college in the middle of Maine.  if you are into those BS U.S. News polls, it is ranked somewhere in the 20's)

When I was there, I saw more pot than I've seen in my entire life, because, apparently, Wednsday night is when everyone goes to their dealers to get enough pot to last the weekend.  Such generous people, wanted me to smoke up with them at least three times in one night.

Sigh, if I only smoked, it would have been a party, for sure.  I guess I'll just have to stick to the inebriating liquids (no, not JUST fresca, though I'm sure that probably classifies as one)

And Ace, YOU TALKING ABOUT MY MAMA, BITCH??? DONT MAKE ME POP A CAP UP YO ASS!

No, I don't buy thos BS U.S. News rankings, all colleges suck.  The day someone learns something in one of those social centers will be the first.  I would go off on my argument but it is all in an 800 word essay I wrote.  If anyone really cares about my views on it though, I'd be glad to e-mail it to you.  College is much better for getting drunk and high than smart.

Heh, I'll agree it's easier to get drunk or high at college... but I think people can still learn.

A point on your side is: at my first post college job interview (Ford Motor Co.) the guy interviewing told me that the only thing my degree (B.S. in Chemistry) proved to him was that I had learned how to go party all night, get drunk, but still know how to function and meet my comitments... In other words.. getting a degree is more a right of passage that proves you've grown up enough to play but still do the work.

I don't really agree with this... especially for the hard sciences, engineering, and post graduate work.  But in the case of almost all liberal arts degrees.... there is the hint of truth in there.

Bondo, please send me your paper.... it should be a fun read.

Ok, Grift, I'll send it once I get back to the computer that has it on Sunday night.  same goes for anyone else who asks for it in the future.

While on the subject of pot, I think Black and Roy need to smoke some and calm down so they stop this mad rampage.

The only "drug" i use (and like) is mariuhana. I am starting my job at half nine o clock in the morning - then i torture my brain to locate ideas there for new advertising strategys - after this i sit in my office till late at night and when i come home i can do nothing else anymore than turn on the TV (and see a war going on).

So i and my friends here meet each others in our flats and enjoy it to drink tea, smoke a joint (and so on) and discuss about various things - however: at half nine o clock we are turned into brave "workers" again.

I also found out that i dont have anything against alcohol (while its also a drug) but mybe due to my genetic-code i dont like being drunk that much (the worst is that bad feeling the next day lol). Most times i get myself a beer just for holding it when i am in a music-club here ;)

In the swiss and in holland weed is already legal and this prooves that our "goverments" can survive legalizing weed. As i know weed was banned together with alcohol in the u.s. during the prohibition-times. but while alcohol got un-damned by the goverments weed still is listed on the "NO" list, since that time. On the otehr hand we can buy loads of medicaments to chill us down totally legally (my father is a doctor so i know what SHIT is in most of these recipe-free medicine-drugs too)

The bad things on weed:
Makes u slow, lowers ur activitys, causes light paranoia, costs as much as gold, can bring u into jail ...

The good things:
Relaxes, Isnt unhealthy (due what significant doctors published here), chilles u down in a peaceful way, boosts your creativity a little

About other drugs: I dont like em, (except mushrooms) - but as somebody said: Everyone must know for himself what he does and what he does not.

I will light my pre-rolled joint NOW - *click* - hmmm - and i wish u all a nice weekend!

stoned or not, dont condamn pot! (lol)

greets

From my experience and watching American Beauty, the good stuff is extremely expensive like you said.  But the less good stuff is really affordable.  A dime for ten dollars isn't to much of a hardship but then again what is the quality of this stuff.  For the top quality stuff, it only becomes healthier (because it is made best for medicine) so it would be expensive but worth it.  Also, I don't know if anyone has some links to some good studies of +/- of  pot, it would be nice to check these out.

Well, if the Discovery Channel and 20/20 are to be believed, the best, most potent weed today is supposed to be BC Bud grown around Vancover, BC, Canada.

This is just me parroting the news, since I've never smoked pot in my life (and I don't really drink).  I don't see prostitutes, but I think that should be legalized too.

I think that the legalization of these things will help control them in the long run.  I'm actually surprised that Canada hasn't made it legal yet, as prostitution is in Ontario, and they are a pretty liberal country.

i am surprised it isnt legal in canada also, i heard that people that take it for medical purposes can get it in pill form...

kewl! pill form - inetresting idea. so also "non smokers" can get stoned now. hehe.

Sign me up.  I'll participate in those clinical trials.

Silent, thank you for making my anti-weed argument for me.

SK at the Spelling Bee
(This story is meant lightly so don't be offended)

Referee dude: Your word is "the"

SK: Uhh...Uhh...Can I have the definition

Referee dude:  Your word is fucking the, it is a fucking article meaning the.  It is three letters and starts with t h

SK:  Oh Well, here goes nothing...t-h-a, the.

Referee dude: Oh for christ's sake, get this waste of a brain of the stage and pummel him a little.

Enough talk...

Roll up a fatty...

8)<-----a fatty like this

No pot for me.  Don't like the idea of it being 20X stronger then ciggs...Alchohol, now....there should be a post about hard lemonade in particular ;).

PK

Yeah, but a pack of cigarettes isn't worth shit next to a joint in how good it is in enjoyment so health be dammened, the reason I don't go full into smoking it (by smoking for a second time) is not lung problems, it is the risk of memory loss, I'll wait till I start losing it naturally before I help it along.  BTW, we did have a few things about hard lemonade in some post (was it this one) it is good stuff, so when I'm 21 (oh i'm such a goody goody) I'll start drinking some.

In all honestly, I'd rather have weed legalized and ciggarettes banned. Anyone with me on that?

Well, I'd rather smoke pot than tabbaco, but I've got to stick to some general values so I say both should be legal.

I think weed is probably better to be legalized if we could only have one, but I would rather see both be illegal. With weed I don't have to catch second hand smoke except for the occasional party when it's unavoidable. Most times you can stay away from it. Cigarettes are too damn pervasive. That said, neither are good and shouldn't be allowed.

Myself, I think second hand smoke sucks (doesn't matter what from).  I don't like smoking (again, cig's or pot)...  I don't think people should smoke either..... but that said...

I'm a Darwinist.  I think alcohol, pot, cigs and prostitution should all be legal and controlled.  I also don't believe in seatbelt or helmet laws (I always wear them... I just don't think government should force people to act in their own best interest).  Part of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness is being a dumbass and doing things that are not the best for you....

I'm just one of those guys that believes the Government isn't supposed to protect me from myself... that's my job.

Well said Grift, just because someone thinks something should be legalized doesn't mean they would go out and do that thing all of a sudden.  It's all about the theory behind it.

I'm with ya on that.

With so many hate filled posts, why not spice things up with a fun nonsense thread from the golden days.

NICE ONE BONDO

I'm just one of those guys that believes the Government isn't supposed to protect me from myself... that's my job.

Grifter


Ooooops, well i suppose ur walking a thin line here grifter when were talking about drugs and selfassessment!

Heres an extract from my memoires.
I went to a friends home on a weekend to have a party there. We started with alcohol, just a few drinks. Then we smoked some cause it was soooooo funny (no cynism here, it was :-)). Bad thing young Kick thought he still would be able to drive a car. I tried to drive back, have u ever experienced the lag hehehehe when u start breaking 100 mtrs in front of a traffic light that turned red? I was so stoned I was fancied by the headlights of an upcoming car. I was so in love with the light I changed the lane and drove straight into the lights direction.
That guy at least started flashing his main lights; I love him 4 doing so! I was lucky when I suddenly realised the deep shit I was in and braked n skid into a small entry. Teh other car just went. Man from that moment on I knew the meaning of the term "cold sweat". From that night on I lost the naivety to enjoy drugs for a couple of years, nearly a decade.
Conclusion
Dont get across that line where u cant selfassass any more especially in public. It might hurt/kill u and other ppl.
Ur freedom is the freedom of the guy next to u, remember that.
I still think pot is okay and I still smoke some but it takes skills. Just dont abuse it.
End of story

See u on GR

Now that is one hell of a story.  Round of applause. good transitions. ;D

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DOWN WITH DRUGS!

See that's the thing, I believe in extremely strong punishments for public use of drugs or public endangerment due to being on drugs, but they should still let drugs be legal for use withing your home.  As long as an act isn't harmful to another it should be legal, but when the act does become harmful, it should be punished with extreme prejudice (well, not really but that phrase is cool, anyway it should be punished heavily).

exactly bondo
alchohol is not illegeal to drink, provided you are of age. it is illegal to be drunk while driving, or to have an open container in your car
why can we not have the restrictions on pot like that. you can have it, you can smoke it, but ?you can't endanger someone else with it.
also, i think the only reason that pot is banned, is that congress thinks that pot heads make a beeline for harder drugs, you know, the stuff that can actually kill you.

Kick...

I think you misunderstood my meaning.  I'm actually not for drug use.  I've never taken recreational drugs... and hardley ever even perscription pain killers... it's not my scene.

I think their use should be legal... yes.  As with alochol, it's much easier to control when it's legal.  Also, may as well earn some tax money from it.

I'll give you an analogy... I'm very much against the seatbelt and helmet laws we have here (for adults.. kids are different)... but I'd still wear my helmet every single time I ride.  Giving me the right to be stupid, doesn't mean I have to be stupid... get my drift?