*DAMN R6 Forum

Allright everyone i wanna inform you all about some stuff. I havent posted anything on this forum for a while because i felt there was no need, but now there is a need. Im stepping forward to tell all of you that  *NiX has reformed. Now this clan consists Rob-Solaris, Xo-Penguin,
 ejo-Darwin. Now two of the three members i do not beleave are hacking. Rob is a very skilled player that many people dont beleave "plays fair" but from what i know he is clean. Xoclipse on the other hand i know for a fact (because he has told me and everyone) ip joins from his pc. This could easily be his way of "owning" there are many aimbots out on the internet for rogue spear, if you dont beleave this i have a friends in the pc world who have told me. Im not saying he does have an aimbot but im saying its likely with the "owning" he does. I have seen xo play good on his mac. But i have screenshots of him 1 shot or two shot killing everyone. A head shot is not an automatic kill as many of you rgoue spear vets know. It can take at least 2 shots to head shot a guy. This is strong evidence that xo may use an aimbot. My brother was playing with xo and rob in their "ownage" game. they were both using pistol but that does not matter as much as what happened next. I was watching and i saw xo aiming at a guy above where my brother was. Everyother shot fired by xo was hitting my brother. This means that xo was hitting two guys simotaniously. odd? thats what i think. Reply to this and tell me what u think. I will get those ss's on the internet soon.

Rebel

i've played with those 3 for a long time in their "ownage" games. and i can tell you that there is no cheating going on. You have to remember that Rob and Xo usualy play 2v8s or 3v8s with pistols, so its no suprize that they good at it. Xo has been a good player for quite a while, its not like he sucked for a long time then got good.
Proof of them being good is when they beat  you as nix. I know they don't cheat but watch out for them because they are very good as a team.

I believe reb......me and meth can waste 11 rounds of steyr in xo,and after that he'll make an impossible headshot all the way across the map with a pdw.Also....in one of thier "ownage" games i owned rob and xo....so he decided to boot me =/.

Don't give them too much credit jeb.  When did xo pop into the RS community? I sure don't remember him before he got this incredible accuracy w/ an aug.

Can you save replay's in mp RS?

Xoclipse came in with his first name of Marine, but truly,  I didn't think he was that good, he just got really good in a short period of time now that I think about it.

Some people just have natural talents in fps games.

Similarly, because of the vagaries of the internet, one connection may consistently have a better latentcy to the server, enabling a millisecond advantage.  That's all it takes  8)

 I say not a chance. - I belive that all 3 are fair players. I have no problem killing any of them, nor would anyone if they know what style to play. I have seen some pretty amazing shots from Xoclipse though, the only think I would wonder about him is "Does center view work on PC?"

Typhy, center view works in regular Rogue Spear on PC, but in urban ops, on both mac and pc, its disabled.

Holy shit, you were marine?!? OMG I REMEMBER THAT GUY

didn't you try to start some clan named "MARINES" ?

No, I didnt

Sounds like some people sour after getting hornswaggled if I do say so myself.

 No, MARINES was started by BagerMilk. - Anyways, I think that anyone who thinks that Xo and them have aimbots should play some SOF2 against people who do have aimbots, to see what it's like.
 

I agree Coss, sounds like people are pissed or just dislike him, so they assume he's cheating.

Ben

Well, I remember Marine(xoc)
He joined Kilzos tryout game and he started owning us with 9mm pistol :(
Than his brother b3(Mooseman19) came and so on...

Thats how I met xoc

I don't dislike them, but i was playing in a game yesterday with NiX... somone was runing around with the walther, and he would hit me once in the head(while he was runing) and kill me... several times this happend... then i got some SS"s of some weird shit, all 1 hit kills. from the both of em. i am not saying they cheat or i am not saying they don't cheat, all i am saying is somthings weird.

Maybe you timed out. The walthers prolly ejo! NJ jo :)

Ben

snake i was the one with the walther.  powerful guns such as the walther don't need to be head shots to be a 1 hit kills.

I was in that game yesterday with E-MaG(flip), Solaris(Rob), Darwin(xo), ,Penguin(?) and some other dood.  They were even teams with *NiX vs Flip, me and the other guy... We got owned at first but I finnaly took all 3 of them out one game... They were not very happy! After that I kept getting owned by a 9mm across the Chemical Compound. Me having my 10a2 vs a 9mm long distance seamed like an obvious hack. I kept getting killed with 1 head shot after another with the 9mm! I got so pissed after awhile that I just left. You can ask Flip about it... He was E-MaG.

 ???

Again,
I have played with these people alot, like typhy said every one of them is skilled, being a good shot with a pistol isn't to hard when you play hours of pistols only games. I've considered them to be great RS players for many months. If you get owned really hard don't make a big fuss because someone is using a pc. If your playing urban ops especialy, don't bitch about cheating.

Jeb's right. Getting headshots with a pistol is easier than with a PDW anyways. If they were using aimbots like everyone says they'd have like 75-100% accuracy every game. It might seem like they're getting you with the first bullet but in reality they're probably unloading a whole magazine at your face. That's what I do with a pistol, and usually after about 3 shots it'll finally stop missing and get ya in the head. Of course, they're even more 1337 with pistols then I am, so they might be able to pull off a headshot with 1 or 2 rounds.

I decided a long time ago that i wont play vs xoclipse again. i dunno why but i couldnt kill him and also got shot by 1 hit all the time. it was just impossible!

and i remember that xo also posted a link to an aimbot-site out of the internet. that was a long time ago...

hmm think what u think, but xo isnt the only one methinks...

cough cough rap/ult

     I'll grant you, the circumstantial evidence is just suspicious enough to make whether xo is using or has used an aimbot an open question in my mind. But to accuse Ultimo of it is specious, and to accuse Rapid of it is downright stupid. First, Ultimo plays on a Mac, and only on a Mac. Second, if that wasn't enough, I and many others have watched him play very carefully, scrutinizing him. In my case, it was because he's one of the best around, and I wanted to learn his techniques. There was no magic. Just uncommon skill. In Rapid's case, he's just plain not good enough to make anyone seriously think he's using an aimbot.

Desert Storm: You are mistaking me with ejo, darwin is electronicjo, if you read the *Nix thread. I am penguin.
Patterson: that "aimbot" site i posted, was a mod that i made, with one line of code, a commented line that said //*enable autotargeting

it was all fake, just for laughs

xoclipse

HAH! If you were gonna choose anyone to accuse of cheating you decided to go with rapid? Interesting choice.

 LoL! "Rapid and Ult"! What do you base your accusations of people having aimbots on? If it were anyone who owns you at RS, you'd think everyone had an aimbot...

i know xo since i was in kos, i dont think that owning is a way of cheating, so rebel, if u dont like getting owned, go play some SP games.

i remember Xo being good before he had his pc. so far he has been acused of aimbotting and unis modding, i know that he does neither.

Are aimbots even possible?  It seems to me that I have talked to a few vets (though I cant remember who at this moment)  and they said that there is no such thing.   Maybe I'm wrong.  

-Exe
 ???

There are definetly aimbots.

     There are no aimbots or other hacks for the Mac client to the best of my knowledge. I spent a few days intently searching for any such, a few months back, but found nothing. The hacks on the PC side were mostly made by one guy, who is an expert disassembler. He disassembled RS's DLLs, figured out the code (from assembly!) and produced patches that modified certain aspects of gameplay, such as bypassing the no-aimbots setting on a host, among many other tweaks. Basically, there's no hacks on the Mac because nobody's gone to the trouble of disassembling the Mac client to acheive the same end.

     Saying there are no aimbots is patently false, though. The PC side is rife with them.

  I've heard and believe that AimBot's are only able to be used on PC's. So you would think if you played on GameSpy everyone one would use them. But They don't. I guess there real, and it makes sense that if xo uses his PC he could use one. But he is a very good player and most ppl who used a AimBot after a month or so, stop or quit becouse its just so fucking boring with them. The game is supose to be a challange, If u get headshots all the time and shit, wheres the fun?   ???

   Wallie~

it should also be mentioned that the aimbots on PC don't work in urban ops. They where made for Normal RS.
Now lets see some proof of the aledged aimbot rather than people who won't admit that Xo is a good player

Patterson, you're the easiest n00b to kill.  So does EVERYONE cheat since they can kill you just as easily as we can? (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/icon_bluh.gif)

Of course since you can't kill us, you think we cheat...  Typical n00b mentality...  Try practicing and learning the maps more n00b.[/size] >:(

wow.  some of you are so FUCKING stupid it's pathetic.  Let's see where should I begin....

Okay how about the moronic comment about the sniper rifles killing in one shot to the head.  Whoever said that is a noob, my bitch, and a retarded human being.  So let's analyize this comment:
#1.  Sniper rifles almost ALWAYS kill you in one shot moron.
#2.  How the FUCK can you say it was a head shot??  Does it say "Congradulations, a Headshot" on the scores screen afterwards?  NO
#3.  Sometimes on hosts it will only show the host's numbers for # of bullets fired, etc, at the end, and everyone else's numbers will just be all 1's.
#4.  I have gotten thousands upon thousands of one-shot kills, 9mm right you your damn head.  So answer me this noob, If me and xoclipse come into a room, waste our primaries, switch to 9mm's, and start firing, and we don't hit each other for 2 clips each, then finally he gets me and it happens to be a head shot, and a one-shot kill.  WOW, HE MUST BE USING AN AIMBOT.  (of course forgetting about the whole 2 clips he just MISSED with) (DUUH)

So as you can see noobs, when you take one bullet and die, you have been OWNED, not cheated.  If you get killed why don't you look at the NUMBER OF BULLETS FIRED.  If it's 34, then OVBIOUSLY he missed and wasn't cheating.  If it's ZERO then the stats are just messed up, it gets like that sometimes.  Count your losses and move on.

Cheers, Gorf.

Oh god, people are stupid. You cannot rule out that xoc is using an aimbot unless you are right over his shoulder watching, but until then, xoc is innocent until proven guilty.

Yeah I gues your right jebby  ;)

jeb u noob

and xo is a good player.

There are a few aimbots for UO, among other things that can actually be worse...... but I wouldn't want to give you guys any ideas to riot on.

Xo is good. End of story. I played a lot with all the *NiX people and yea there good and basically just own but there not unkillable.

Gorf, not all aimbots are made to produce a one shot kill.  There have been some in TO that were made to just make your shots way more accurate and give the oppents a harder time of figuring out if you have a bot or not.  And thanks to a great clan named "Elf" with their famous Elf bot, they allowed people to turn it off and on in game with ease.

From what i've read from pc RS sites, and like assassin stated, there aren't many cheats avalible for urban ops. No average script kiddie can make a aimbot, you have to know asembler.
"Although Rogue Spear has been hacked six ways to Sunday, Urban Operations is a lot better off.? Although the beta patch for Urban Operations (known as v2.51) was hacked to allow for the use of Stealth Vertigo, the recently released v2.52 does not have a widely available hack.?"

also there where 2 things put into the aimbots which you can type into the chat to see if someone is using them.
"#woah?     - if that's typed in the main lobby of Rogue Spear and a cheater has     Vertigo's program installed, the text will appear as "#tity"
"+VeRTigO     - typing this will reveal the words "#fuckme" if the user is     using an older version of Vertigo's program."

You can read the whole thing here http://www.piestactics.com/guide/articles/cheatingfaq.asp

As for Xo, he doesn't cheat

Hey guys.  My name is Adiabatic.  I know this post is just about dead, but for those of you who do see it, I hope you read it.

Xoclipse is a person I've known since gradeschool, since 3rd and 4th grade, correspondingly.  Not to give his name away, xoclipse has been my best friend for many years now.  The kind you grow old with.  He's always been honest, trusting, caring, sympathetic, funny, and one hell of a great friend.

Now onto the "aimbot" bullshit.  Xo is an expert programmer in my eyes.  Sure, he might not be the expertest expert out there, but no one is perfect.  I personally know that he has MADE an aimbot.  Okay?  In fact, he stated that ONE TIME he just tried it out to see what happened.  You know what he told me (keep in mind I don't play RS or anything, so he'd have no reason to randomly im me and feed me bs)?  He said, Steven, it's awesome that I was able to make this aimbot, but I don't like it.  You know what he said about it?  He said it MADE HIM WORSE.  He's SO good, that the AIMBOT actually takes away from his game.  AND, to supplement that statement, let's all consider how boring it would be to play like that.  In his words, "It would be too boring to play with an aimbot, I might as well just have never played and gotten good on my own at all."  So guys, there's a statement for both sides.  Xo has used an aimbot once, in a completely guilt-free unimportant match.  Some public game that doesn't matter.  And second of all, Xo really is super l337 and can pwn all on his own.

A few months ago I stopped playing jedi knight 2.  I was a household name in that game, right up with diverse.zen, the crow, team =x= (the executioners).  I was |aod|.adiabatic.  And I was goddamn good at that game.  I'm sure at least one of you can confirm this somehow.  I have no doubts to it.  Anyhow, I got so bored with the game all on its own at a certain point I didn't even want to play.  I had figured out every bug, level fix, special move, secret place, hiding spot, way to win, and otherwise had become so good that it was boring.  There was no challenge.  And let me tell you, I never did and would be the last person to use some sort of kill-bot to accomplish that.  I got good after around 4-5 months of playing as vertigo, qvplite, and adiabatic.  After many (wasted) hours of gaming.  And let me tell you, it's a waste of time to worry about it all.  It's a goddamn game.  When you stop playing a game, you realize how dumb it was to waste THAT MUCH TIME on it.

Anyways, what I'm saying is this... all you accusing bastards need to get your head out of your ass ;D , because it's one big load of horseshit.  Xo is naturally good at all games, especially those he plays with frequency.  He's just a smart, fast-learning kid, end of story.  So lay off!  Just because you noobs don't understand the intricacies that are obviously in every open GL game, and in ALL GAMES ANYWAYS, just because you don't like losing, just because you are angry and want to say something after you get pwned, NO-BODY WANTS TO HEAR ANY BIT OF THAT BULL-SHIT! ::)

Any comments, questions, or concerns, feel free to call 1-800-GO-FUCK-YOURSELF! :D

First, Patterson is written with a double t, and then you forgot to write Lt. (noob)

So lets see, who could that be?rapid, yea of course, who else. Mods pls get the IP of this asshole and tell the others that its not the original Lt. Patterson -> now Absalon (me)

The matter of cheating?I don?t believe that xo and companions are using aimbots. Its just a lil 9mm hack there. I don?t have problems to kill those guys (only unbelievable lag probs) when they are using pdw?s or mp5?s. Until there are 9mm?s in the game. Not even a chance to kill one of them, I usually pistol kill with first wounding and then headshot. Seems like they have no reticule sometimes. But, I give a shit on it. I don?t play RS that much anymore?

Mr. Impersonating, nice to meet you, hope you get a ban (as you deserved a long time ago Rapid)

greetz

 Heh, no way in hell that's Rapid.

Rapid is right at the top of the list of people who call "aimbot" whenever a PC player enters a game.

My best guess would be that it's Xo try to advertise himself. ;)

You mac players are extremely paranoid. About 2 weeks ago, I joined one of dum dum's game, under an alias, claiming to be on a PC, just to see how people would react. After 5 games, I was booted for aimbotting, throughout the 5 games that I was there, 4 different people accused me of having an aimbot.

That's  how you guys think - if he's on a PC and he's a good shot, he must be cheating. So many mac people say "I wish every game had GameRanger support so I wouldn't have to play against PC cheaters." The only game where I saw lots of cheaters was SOF2 before Punkbuster.

I played Medal of Honor through the built in tracker, which involves playing against PC players. I've met a hell of a lot of cheap wusses - leanwalkers with shotties, etc. Throughout that time, I've only met one cheater. The guy who stood in the middle of Stalingrad with a Stg .45, turned in a circle, and, firing off his whole clip, killed everyone.

I play SOF2 on the built in tracker. Now, with Punkbuster, I'm yet to meet a cheater. The same is true with RTCW.

With modern anti cheat mods, PC players no longer have access to cheats. Even if they did, what fun is a game without aiming?

I know for a fact that xo and jo don't cheat. They're just good players who use PCs. Nothing more to it.

At one point i thought maybe they did use hacks, but after telling myself ?fuck this, you can kill anyone? I just got more aggressive with my approach to killing people...it's all in your head, if you think someone will own you, they will.

This argument came up last time *NiX was around, Ultimo started it that time, funny how once they get owned it's obviously cheating. Rebel, your brother hybrid is notorious for constant complaining, whining and severe bitching non-stop in any game, I would'nt believe a thing that kid said.

The reason Xo appeared out of seemingly nowhere or with a shady background is that he spent most of his time being taught by the Notorious p u n under various aliases.

Also, who brought this topic back up?

pssssst....(http://www.spacespider.net/emo/horrormovie.gif)....it was Rebel.

people still play RS? silly bastards

Back when ROB hosted rs he had bullshit unis now no one start bitching cause i would put a clip or 2 into him and he would not fall and the gold teams unis would get one shot chest kills ect. I asked him to change the unis and he kicked and blocked me they were bs xoc was ok I guess. Typhy is right the only cheaters in sof2 are the servers without PunkBuster enabled, PunkBuster should be for every game out there and it is coming to RvS so if you little bitches are worried about aimbots and that crap it wont happen heres the link http://www.evenbalance.com/index.php  .

Yah well i cant figure out if they are hacking since alot of the hacks for RS are called Silent Hacks. (Meaning host will not figure it out). For the pure fun of it i was looking for mac hacks so a dude made one up..... this is like a yr ago. Its a classic LAN hack. Meaning if you got 2 computers your set. All it does basically is turns on the host options for the indv. player. So you can have auto aim for you only. Same for map ect... I was waiting till RS became less popluar before i ruin it. Then agian i dont play RS anymore. But im willing 2 give the hack to programers or other guys that love screwing with games. Its been switched from 2346 to 15000 (old rs port) that way you guys cant use it for game ranger, and its open source. I noticed some other mac guys allrdy got something like this hack.

ole well....

Mainman you stupid hypocrite, trying to get attention any way you can. First you start this whole anti-cheat movement trying to make mods to stop cheating, and then you're giving out hacks to anyone who wants them? noob

Damn bronto you fucking dino. Yes i did. And heres what i say.. Fuck it. And if u even read my statment IT SAYS THEY ARNT GAMERANGER PLAYABLE NOW.noob

Just let this gay thread die.

Get the fuck off my case absalon n00b.  The only person that ever deserved a ban, was YOUR stupid ass for lying about a "Stats Screen" in a CB.  That's REAL reason to be banned.  But of course, your n00b ass wouldn't know that. :o

(http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/wallbash.gif)"when will I stop acting like a n00b" -absalon

I think you should be banned from everything and anything that you could possibly participate in, because all you fucking say is "n00b". Shut the hell up, please, it's fucking annoying.

Yeah, but if you'd kept up to date on some of the more intelligent pieces of news, GAMERANGER ISNT GOING TO BE HERE MUCH LONGER. why don't you think before you post.

I think you should be banned from everything and anything that you could possibly participate in, because all you fucking say is "n00b". Shut the hell up, please, it's fucking annoying.

I have proof that aimbots do exist for pc... But I don't think I'm allowed to post the link. (It's an online game cheating site)

by all means, post the link. this is a mac forum, pcers dont come here to get links for aimbots. oh, and it's no big secret that aimbots exist for pc.

(and bronto plays on a PC ;D )

ps: stfu absalon, anytime you want to CB, step up.  Owned you plenty of times & I wouldn't mind raping you again Bigmouth.  -Rapid(http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~damnr6/yabbse/YaBBImages/rambo.gif)

How about you buy a better connection first? ;D

of course we are gonna cb, looking forward to it

l0l, yeah, this coming from a guy that lives in opposite side of the world.  Your ignorance is nothing you can hide.  But you couldn't even understand that. ;D

How bout you just step up to the challenge and CB us already.  Or what, not quite ready to get raped yet? :o

my god, please stop the grandstanding, return to the topic or let this thread die a normal death, dont let it get locked because of flaming like every other topic.....